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Marvin Austria Member	posted December 02, 2012 12:10 PM Hey there, How much are those worth right now? Islands Swamps Forests Plains Mountains Whats a price you would not hesitate to buy? where do you see them? Will they go to 15$+?
bawitheba Member	posted December 02, 2012 02:40 PM I would not hesitate to buy Non island 5-6 Island 7-8 I do not see them going to 15ea
pugowar Member	posted December 02, 2012 03:59 PM I picked up my Japanese foils for 15-20. Don't see English going that high.
Marvin Austria Member	posted December 03, 2012 02:34 AM Not even the blue ons? Mcm already has them for 12$ cheapest Everybody shares the opinion that they WONT go up that high?
Lord Crovax Member	posted December 03, 2012 02:34 AM quote: Originally posted by Marvin Austria: Not even the blue ons? Mcm already has them for 12$ cheapest Everybody shares the opinion that they WONT go up that high? They will, just takes years probably to get that high. __________________ I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
MTDetermine Member	posted December 03, 2012 04:28 AM quote: Originally posted by Marvin Austria: Not even the blue ons? Mcm already has them for 12$ cheapest Everybody shares the opinion that they WONT go up that high? If island is 12 cheapest, does that mean non islands are 9 or better? If yes let me know I got 814 pieces for sale Not looking to sell. A side joke to point out that they are still not worth that much........yet. [Edited 1 times, lastly by MTDetermine on December 03, 2012]
mm1983 Member	posted December 03, 2012 04:38 AM quote: Originally posted by bawitheba: I would not hesitate to buy Non island 5-6 Island 7-8 I do not see them going to 15ea I think many people would buy these for $8-10 non island and $10-12 for island right now.
nailbunny7 Member	posted December 03, 2012 04:59 AM quote: Originally posted by mm1983: I think many people would buy these for $8-10 non island and $10-12 for island right now. Yep, they sell very quickly here at about those prices.
Marvin Austria Member	posted December 03, 2012 12:18 PM you really have that much pieces? =P quote: Originally posted by MTDetermine: If island is 12 cheapest, does that mean non islands are 9 or better? If yes let me know I got 814 pieces for sale Not looking to sell. A side joke to point out that they are still not worth that much........yet.
Lord Crovax Member	posted December 03, 2012 12:23 PM quote: Originally posted by MTDetermine: If island is 12 cheapest, does that mean non islands are 9 or better? If yes let me know I got 814 pieces for sale Not looking to sell. A side joke to point out that they are still not worth that much........yet. See at 9, they would all sell almost instantly. Hell at 10 I bet they would still sell fairly quick. __________________ I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
Marvin Austria Member	posted December 03, 2012 12:32 PM So to sum up: blue ones will be 15$ in one-two year? nonblue ~ 10$ (maybe except mountains)
Aznopium Member	posted December 03, 2012 02:07 PM i see these numbers Island 9-12 (highest being meignaud, then Avon)) Mountain 5.5-10 (highest being meignaud) Forest 5.5-8 (highest being avon) Plains 6-8 (varies, closer to <8) Swamp 6-8 (varies, closer to <8)
mm1983 Member	posted December 03, 2012 02:31 PM These will always be priced accordingly to what the foil Unhinged ones go for. Zendikar ones will rise in price whenever Unhinged ones rise in price because Unhinged are more expensive, much older, and even harder to find. Zendikar ones are already 3 years old. Unless more full art foil lands get printed in another set coming up I can even see the Zendikar lands being like current prices of Unhinged lands in another 2 years possibly as long as the Unhinged lands rise in price in that time as well. [Edited 1 times, lastly by mm1983 on December 03, 2012]
Marvin Austria Member	posted December 03, 2012 02:51 PM Thanks for your opionion Anybody thinks there will be a reprint or new full art basics in the next 2 years?
Zeckk Member	posted December 03, 2012 04:37 PM quote: Originally posted by Marvin Austria: Thanks for your opionion Anybody thinks there will be a reprint or new full art basics in the next 2 years? What were the durations between UNG/UNH/ZEN? 5 years? I feel like R&D has already laid plans for a return to the zendikar plane a few years down the road, with the built-in draw of more full-art lands.
bawitheba Member	posted December 03, 2012 04:57 PM I remember an article a while back saying that they will be doing more full art lands but they will be timely spaced out. To be honest I see within 2013 we will have full art lands again.
JayC Member	posted December 03, 2012 05:19 PM quote: Originally posted by bawitheba: I remember an article a while back saying that they will be doing more full art lands but they will be timely spaced out. To be honest I see within 2013 we will have full art lands again. Question: Did Zendikar hurt the value of Unhinged lands or help it, or no effect at all?
Zeckk Member	posted December 03, 2012 05:29 PM quote: Originally posted by JayC: Question: Did Zendikar hurt the value of Unhinged lands or help it, or no effect at all? Hard to say. ZEN itself brought a lot of people back into magic, and I know of plenty of players that started out with ZEN basics, then learned about unhinged and unglued and began to pursue those. As far as the price points go, UNH and UNG lands both stalled in price while ZEN was legal, then began to rise again after ZEN left standard. None of the full-art sets have ever dropped in price though.
MTDetermine Member	posted December 03, 2012 06:16 PM quote: Originally posted by Lord Crovax: See at 9, they would all sell almost instantly. Hell at 10 I bet they would still sell fairly quick. I have 807 English NM pieces, 4 "Isla" (some European language for Island), 3 EX English pieces. To those who say they sell quickly at $8-10 non island and $10-12 island, I have done a real life experiment here by putting up 4 sets for sale in my thread at $200 per set. That is $200 for 20 foil Zen basic, each different artwork. If what you guys say are true, my sets will fly off fast. Otherwise, it means the other way round. We will let the market speak for itself =p
ermabwed Member	posted December 03, 2012 07:12 PM I'm not going to flout my ignorance on the price point, but I am completely sure that that is the wrong marketing strategy. Here are some reasons besides the price that such sets may not sell: - Few players can or are willing to spend that much on basic lands in one shot. For those that are, a single Summer or Guru may seem like a better buy. - Few players actually need that many. There have been lots of multilands in Standard lately, and that trend seems set to continue. 20 basics is simply more than you usually need. - Virtually nobody needs or wants an even mix of different lands. Almost anyone in the market for premium lands would pay more for 20 of the same one than for a mixed lot. - Different arts is a drawback, not a bonus feature. A premium should be expected for a large lot of the same picture, not the reverse. Try also offering a lot of 20 of the same art of Forest at the same price and see what the response is. __________________ Always buying misprints. See my list for the best Alternate 4th buy prices in the world (bulk rares $2!) T-Chinese Portal Feral Shadow $8 T-Chinese Portal Wrath of God (name your price) Legends APs
Lord Crovax Member	posted December 03, 2012 07:43 PM quote: Originally posted by ermabwed: I'm not going to flout my ignorance on the price point, but I am completely sure that that is the wrong marketing strategy. Here are some reasons besides the price that such sets may not sell: - Few players can or are willing to spend that much on basic lands in one shot. For those that are, a single Summer or Guru may seem like a better buy. - Few players actually need that many. There have been lots of multilands in Standard lately, and that trend seems set to continue. 20 basics is simply more than you usually need. - Virtually nobody needs or wants an even mix of different lands. Almost anyone in the market for premium lands would pay more for 20 of the same one than for a mixed lot. - Different arts is a drawback, not a bonus feature. A premium should be expected for a large lot of the same picture, not the reverse. Try also offering a lot of 20 of the same art of Forest at the same price and see what the response is. I'll also add this is MOTL which has seen a rise in "I only want to profit" as of late. __________________ I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
flam flawless Member	posted December 03, 2012 08:14 PM quote: Originally posted by Lord Crovax: I'll also add this is MOTL which has seen a rise in "I only want to profit" as of late. MOTL was like that when I joined 10 years ago.
flam flawless Member	posted December 03, 2012 08:22 PM and there is this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-Zendikar-1x-Foil-Common-Full-Art-Land-Complete-Set-/290823202271?pt=Trading_Card_Games_US&hash=item43b669e5df
JayC Member	posted December 03, 2012 08:22 PM quote: Originally posted by flam flawless: MOTL was like that when I joined 10 years ago. Ya. This site is full of sharks. I love it.
wayne Member	posted December 03, 2012 08:27 PM quote: Originally posted by MTDetermine: I have 807 English NM pieces, 4 "Isla" (some European language for Island), 3 EX English pieces. To those who say they sell quickly at $8-10 non island and $10-12 island, I have done a real life experiment here by putting up 4 sets for sale in my thread at $200 per set. That is $200 for 20 foil Zen basic, each different artwork. If what you guys say are true, my sets will fly off fast. Otherwise, it means the other way round. We will let the market speak for itself =p They are not going to sell easily in such sets. You'd be better off selling them by basic land type, at least that was the response I got when I asked about selling as a set.

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