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syous
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posted December 12, 2013 11:01 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for syous Click Here to Email syous Send a private message to syous Click to send syous an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Can I get a price check on a sealed box of Antiquities?
 
gregmacknass
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I would say between $3-4k, and maybe a little more if you are willing to wait for the right buyer.
 
rats60
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quote:
Originally posted by gregmacknass:
I would say between $3-4k, and maybe a little more if you are willing to wait for the right buyer.

It's definitely more than 4K. I'd snap buy at that price.

 
gregmacknass
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posted December 13, 2013 01:29 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for gregmacknass Click Here to Email gregmacknass Send a private message to gregmacknass Click to send gregmacknass an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by rats60:
It's definitely more than 4K. I'd snap buy at that price.

Other than Candelebra, there are no real money cards in that set. The value is just not there. There is a limited number of sealed product collectors out there, and I would bet that most that are interested in a box already have one. I feel the $3-4k is a realistic sale value, instead of a sit on the shelf until it sells 3 years later value. If you'd snap buy at that price, hey bud you have a taker (although I doubt you are a serious buyer).

 
Scuderia88
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posted December 13, 2013 01:54 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Scuderia88 Click Here to Email Scuderia88 Send a private message to Scuderia88 Click to send Scuderia88 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Mishra's Workshop anyone?

quote:
Originally posted by gregmacknass:
Other than Candelebra, there are no real money cards in that set. The value is just not there. There is a limited number of sealed product collectors out there, and I would bet that most that are interested in a box already have one. I feel the $3-4k is a realistic sale value, instead of a sit on the shelf until it sells 3 years later value. If you'd snap buy at that price, hey bud you have a taker (although I doubt you are a serious buyer).

 
JensK
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posted December 13, 2013 04:31 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for JensK Click Here to Email JensK Send a private message to JensK Click to send JensK an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by gregmacknass:
Other than Candelebra, there are no real money cards in that set. The value is just not there. There is a limited number of sealed product collectors out there, and I would bet that most that are interested in a box already have one. I feel the $3-4k is a realistic sale value, instead of a sit on the shelf until it sells 3 years later value. If you'd snap buy at that price, hey bud you have a taker (although I doubt you are a serious buyer).

It seems you might have forgotten Mishra's Workshop?

 
nylarotep
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quote:
Originally posted by gregmacknass:
Other than Candelebra, there are no real money cards in that set. The value is just not there. There is a limited number of sealed product collectors out there, and I would bet that most that are interested in a box already have one. I feel the $3-4k is a realistic sale value, instead of a sit on the shelf until it sells 3 years later value. If you'd snap buy at that price, hey bud you have a taker (although I doubt you are a serious buyer).

It's not about there being money cards in the set, although that helps. It's more about that it's a sealed box from an old-ass set. Anyone purchasing this is more than likely not going to crack it anyways, it's purely a collectors piece.

 
jvs
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posted December 13, 2013 07:37 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for jvs Click Here to Email jvs Send a private message to jvs Click to send jvs an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by gregmacknass:
Other than Candelebra, there are no real money cards in that set. The value is just not there. There is a limited number of sealed product collectors out there, and I would bet that most that are interested in a box already have one. I feel the $3-4k is a realistic sale value, instead of a sit on the shelf until it sells 3 years later value. If you'd snap buy at that price, hey bud you have a taker (although I doubt you are a serious buyer).

As others are saying, the value of the cards in the pack is not the primary way old sealed product is valued. The first buylist I checked had Antiquities at $3,770. 3-4k is just not correct.

jvs

 
rats60
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quote:
Originally posted by gregmacknass:
Other than Candelebra, there are no real money cards in that set. The value is just not there. There is a limited number of sealed product collectors out there, and I would bet that most that are interested in a box already have one. I feel the $3-4k is a realistic sale value, instead of a sit on the shelf until it sells 3 years later value. If you'd snap buy at that price, hey bud you have a taker (although I doubt you are a serious buyer).

Who are you? You have 4 references and you're going to act like this? We don't need any more Zeccks and Walkerdogs. Where were you when lickaneye needed help?

http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/026174.html

I've got cash whenever you have sealed booster boxes to sell just as long as you're not expecting retail because I probably already have it in my collection.

 
ermabwed
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quote:
Originally posted by gregmacknass:
There is a limited number of sealed product collectors out there, and I would bet that most that are interested in a box already have one.

You have got to be kidding.

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hammr7
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posted December 16, 2013 10:49 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for hammr7 Click Here to Email hammr7 Send a private message to hammr7 Click to send hammr7 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Don't let a small number of references fool you.

I have a very nice collection, but a low MOTL feedback. By the time I joined MOTL my collection was already at the point where I was looking for rather scarce and unusual items.

I don't do much on MOTL, since almost no one has items I truly want, and with my low references, I'm not sending items worth hundreds or thousands of dollars first.

I don't know anything about gregmacknass, and his forgetting Mishra's Workshop is a bit strange. Despite low references he could be an avid collector of MTG. I've had many low reference members of this and other forums (i.e. Magic Librarities) step up and purchase big-dollar items.

While I personally think a sealed box of Antiquities, or anything else that old, has value from being sealed, I think we are getting to the point where the values of the high condition cards in the box make up a large percentage of the value.

With a single booster, you are gambling that the pack hasn't been searched, and has something decent in it. With a sealed box from a reputable source, you get rid of the gamble on whether the boosters have been sealed, and increase the chances of decent cards somewhere in the box.

If you can live with Near Mint cards, sealed boxes are normally expensive. But when you start delving into graded cards sealed boxes start to make sense.

 
jbark
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I don't believe this is the first time gregmacknass has said something dumb in the value forums. Listen to rats on this he is very knowlegable. There are a few people on here that I would trust. He is one.
 
daner
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quote:
Originally posted by hammr7:
Don't let a small number of references fool you.

I have a very nice collection, but a low MOTL feedback. By the time I joined MOTL my collection was already at the point where I was looking for rather scarce and unusual items.

I don't do much on MOTL, since almost no one has items I truly want, and with my low references, I'm not sending items worth hundreds or thousands of dollars first.

I don't know anything about gregmacknass, and his forgetting Mishra's Workshop is a bit strange. Despite low references he could be an avid collector of MTG. I've had many low reference members of this and other forums (i.e. Magic Librarities) step up and purchase big-dollar items.

While I personally think a sealed box of Antiquities, or anything else that old, has value from being sealed, I think we are getting to the point where the values of the high condition cards in the box make up a large percentage of the value.

With a single booster, you are gambling that the pack hasn't been searched, and has something decent in it. With a sealed box from a reputable source, you get rid of the gamble on whether the boosters have been sealed, and increase the chances of decent cards somewhere in the box.

If you can live with Near Mint cards, sealed boxes are normally expensive. But when you start delving into graded cards sealed boxes start to make sense.


I'm going to agree w hammr7 here. A LOT of the value of an old sealed box like this gets that value from the potential that

1. It's not searched
2. The ability to open an individual card that could be graded and worth untold amounts of money exist

If I'm selling a box like this I'm making a point to get more money bc the potential I'm selling you an untouched lottery ticket. You will pay a premium to me for that.

Not just this box is old...but the fact you have a legit treasure chest on our hands, like cracking or potential cracking of a bgs 9.5-10 workshop or candelabra. I think this is a legit argument you'd have to throw out when dealing w such an item.

 
paragondave
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quote:
Originally posted by ermabwed:
You have got to be kidding.


he's not kidding, just wrong.

 
ermabwed
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Well said, Dave. I may still be laughing about that post by this time tomorrow.

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