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AGO
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posted April 19, 2014 05:56 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for AGO Click Here to Email AGO Send a private message to AGO Click to send AGO an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View AGO's Trade Auction or SaleView AGO's Trade Auction or Sale
My heart about stopped when I looked up the pricing on Revised Underground Sea. It seems to be hitting $250 currently. I have been out of the loop the last few months on pricing. This seems absurd that they are hitting this high. Is it time to sell?
 
chaos021
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People don't like the Idea of trading a couple blue fetches for blue dual lands. At least that's what it seemed like to me.

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majicman
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posted April 20, 2014 08:33 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for majicman Click Here to Email majicman Send a private message to majicman Click to send majicman an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View majicman's Have/Want ListView majicman's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by AGO:
My heart about stopped when I looked up the pricing on Revised Underground Sea. It seems to be hitting $250 currently. I have been out of the loop the last few months on pricing. This seems absurd that they are hitting this high. Is it time to sell?

I guess everyone has their selling point. Duals and all Legacy prices have moved up due to Modern pricing of fetches and other cards going up.

Wastelands, Ports, and other Legacy and Vintage prices have all seen new higher prices recently. It cannot go on forever. Modern Fetches have faded back recently, so to me that could be a signal to take some money off the table.

Good luck with your decision....Greg

 
Demilio
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posted April 20, 2014 09:36 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Demilio Click Here to Email Demilio Send a private message to Demilio Click to send Demilio an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Demilio's Have/Want ListView Demilio's Have/Want List
Why are you guys talking about fetches?

Chas Andres wrote a theory in his article as to what caused the jump in duals that I think is plausible.

Basically the increase in Modern prices allowed people to turn those increases/profits into dual lands.


[Edited 3 times, lastly by Demilio on April 20, 2014]

 
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posted April 20, 2014 10:21 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for guruswamp Click Here to Email guruswamp Send a private message to guruswamp Click to send guruswamp an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Notice fbb duals arent much more than revised........
 
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quote:
Originally posted by guruswamp:
Notice fbb duals arent much more than revised........

Not for long imo. Supply of FBB duals has been drying up over the last month or two. SCG went from having multiples of every FBB dual to having next to none in stock. ABU's stock has gone way down too. Even MCM has less available now.

 
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How much is a revised set after the dual increases? They used to not hit four digits but I can't find sets since duals are going like crazy.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
How much is a revised set after the dual increases? They used to not hit four digits but I can't find sets since duals are going like crazy.

$1500-1600 and climbing....if you can find one.

 
kingsey
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posted April 20, 2014 07:29 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for kingsey Click Here to Email kingsey Send a private message to kingsey Click to send kingsey an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Where are the fbbs at now ?

 
mm1983
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I just bought a FBB French Taiga for $225 which was in next to NM condition so not pack fresh like the other 4 I have.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by paragondave:
$1500-1600 and climbing....if you can find one.

Serious? Wow.

 
kingsey
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posted April 20, 2014 07:53 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for kingsey Click Here to Email kingsey Send a private message to kingsey Click to send kingsey an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Over 200 for a taiga? Where are the blues at ?
 
mm1983
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Blues are anywhere from $350 to $600 I believe. From lowest to highest. Trop, Tundra, volcanic, underground sea
 
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quote:
Originally posted by mm1983:
Blues are anywhere from $350 to $600 I believe. From lowest to highest. Trop, Tundra, volcanic, underground sea

for excll dual , not the nmt

 
mm1983
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quote:
Originally posted by morphliou:

for excll dual , not the nmt


For German EX or better I think you are right. I know that all FBB duals are on the rise right now so to really pinpoint an exact price is hard so I'm just going for what I really want at the moment. In the states anyways German is the most expensive FBB language followed by Italian and then French but I recently bought my FBB French Taiga at GP Philly for $225 which Italian would have been $250 or German would have been $275 for the same condition.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by mm1983:

For German EX or better I think you are right. I know that all FBB duals are on the rise right now so to really pinpoint an exact price is hard so I'm just going for what I really want at the moment. In the states anyways German is the most expensive FBB language followed by Italian and then French but I recently bought my FBB French Taiga at GP Philly for $225 which Italian would have been $250 or German would have been $275 for the same condition.


not german only
i looking for german and french
HERE i found 0 sea fbb even french in true nmt and i buy 650
many people give 1 price on 1 card but are 0 on trade or sale
the french is rarer that the german
the german pimp is idiot ,)

i think 450 for tundra and tropical
550 for volcanic
and 700 for sea
IF REALLY NMT-MINT
and the price are up


[Edited 1 times, lastly by morphilou on April 21, 2014]

 
oneofchaos
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posted April 21, 2014 02:34 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for oneofchaos Click Here to Email oneofchaos Send a private message to oneofchaos Click to send oneofchaos an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by paragondave:
$1500-1600 and climbing....if you can find one.

I'm not seeing many sets closing at that rate, you have any links?

 
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posted April 21, 2014 08:41 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for paragondave Click Here to Email paragondave Send a private message to paragondave Click to send paragondave an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View paragondave's Have/Want ListView paragondave's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
I'm not seeing many sets closing at that rate, you have any links?

here's one that's the most recent;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ MAGIC-MtG-REVISED-Complete-Set-INCLUDING-all-10-DUAL-Lands-UNPLAYED-/191131569771?pt=Trading_Card_Games_US&hash=item2c80544e6b

up from one that sold for $1200 in Feb and one that sold for $1399 in March, hence my statement.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by paragondave on April 21, 2014]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by paragondave:
here's one that's the most recent;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ MAGIC-MtG-REVISED-Complete-Set-INCLUDING-all-10-DUAL-Lands-UNPLAYED-/191131569771?pt=Trading_Card_Games_US&hash=item2c80544e6b

up from one that sold for $1200 in Feb and one that sold for $1399 in March, hence my statement.


Ah thanks. Most of them I saw on ebay were either "set of revised 10 duals" that would throw off the filter or better yet "revised set minus duals" and I was trying to hodgepodge the values together to figure out what a set was.

 
majicman
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So, what would a FBB playset (40) go for now? Assume SP to NM. Just looking at a range.

Thanks...Greg

 
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Just a recommendation, but get a playset of what you need now vs what you want in case the cards jump in price again. I can see Underground Seas gradually increasing in value again and never drop (unless WOTC pulls some shenanigans).
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Deathbydrawing:
Just a recommendation, but get a playset of what you need now vs what you want in case the cards jump in price again. I can see Underground Seas gradually increasing in value again and never drop (unless WOTC pulls some shenanigans).

Like snow covered duels???

 
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quote:
Originally posted by MoSlim:
Like snow covered duels???

To be honest, snow covered duals delay the rise, not stop it.

Now you have 2 necessary cards for EDH (those underground seas didnt stop being good, they just get paired with a new card). You also have legacy decks wondering just how many underground seas they want to play (the answer could be >4).

Also this is only @ 1100 with an hour to go:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/191137915432?_trksid=p2047675.m570.l4455&_trkparms=gh1g%3DI191137915432.N7.S1.M57.R1.TR3

We'll see where it ends.


[Edited 1 times, lastly by oneofchaos on April 22, 2014]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
To be honest, snow covered duals delay the rise, not stop it.

Now you have 2 necessary cards for EDH (those underground seas didnt stop being good, they just get paired with a new card). You also have legacy decks wondering just how many underground seas they want to play (the answer could be >4).

Also this is only @ 1100 with an hour to go:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/191137915432?_trksid=p2047675.m570.l44 55&_trkparms=gh1g%3DI191137915432.N7.S1.M57.R1.TR3

We'll see where it ends.


very low winning bid. May have something to do with the fact that the seller hasn't sold anything on ebay in over 10 years. All feedback going back to April 16, 2004 has been from sellers. I'll be checking to see if this sale goes thru.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by paragondave on April 23, 2014]

 
mm1983
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quote:
Originally posted by Moslim:

Like snow covered duels???

Can't and will never happen, at least with using original dual names and adding snow covered to the name. Maybe I'm over thinking things but this just can't happen with cards like Taiga and Tundra since they already have snow on the picture.

 

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