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eclinchy
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posted August 03, 2006 06:47 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for eclinchy Click Here to Email eclinchy Send a private message to eclinchy Click to send eclinchy an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I have an idea for improving the trade matcher. I don't know how plausible this is, because I don't know how to program the matcher to read through people's locations... but I'll give it a shot anyway.

If a trader is American and doesn't trade internationally, wouldn't it make sense for the trade matcher to filter out people from outside the US? Those people aren't really good "matches," are they? I wonder if some kind of modification could be made here.

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BoltBait
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posted August 03, 2006 09:47 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for BoltBait Click Here to Email BoltBait Send a private message to BoltBait Click to send BoltBait an Instant MessageVisit BoltBait's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I like the idea, however I'm thinking it would be difficult (to impossible) to implement. You see, there is no standard way people enter their "location" in their profile. Some people, like me, say "USA", others say "United States" or "US" or "America", and still others don't list a country at all.

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Shadow88
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posted August 03, 2006 11:16 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Shadow88 Click Here to Email Shadow88 Send a private message to Shadow88 Click to send Shadow88 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by BoltBait:
I like the idea, however I'm thinking it would be difficult (to impossible) to implement. You see, there is no standard way people enter their "location" in their profile. Some people, like me, say "USA", others say "United States" or "US" or "America", and still others don't list a country at all.


We could have a drop down bar with the names of major countries/locations. I see this sort of thing all the time when I register at major sites, so it must be pretty feasible, and it would eliminate multiple ways of entering the same location. People would have to select the location that best describes them, not enter it in.

Of course, there's still the problem of existing locations. I suppose you coule clear everyone's location somehow and just put up a notice on the front page and in the forums. People who are concerned about trading would probably be interested enough to click on the story.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Shadow88 on August 03, 2006]

 
eclinchy
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posted August 04, 2006 01:14 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for eclinchy Click Here to Email eclinchy Send a private message to eclinchy Click to send eclinchy an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Shadow: the problem with that idea is that 37000 members would have to go back and adjust their profiles to fit your change. Not plausible.

Instead, how about having a little questionnaire for people to fill out as they post a H/W list? Instead of simply one International Trader button, have something like...

"Are you from: 1) The United States; 2) Outside the United States?

Do you want to trade with people from outside the United States?"

Two simple questions, replacing the one simple question we have now. It'd actually be a pretty small change, and it would help American traders tremendously.

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Shadow88
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posted August 05, 2006 08:26 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Shadow88 Click Here to Email Shadow88 Send a private message to Shadow88 Click to send Shadow88 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by eclinchy:
Shadow: the problem with that idea is that 37000 members would have to go back and adjust their profiles to fit your change. Not plausible.

Instead, how about having a little questionnaire for people to fill out as they post a H/W list? Instead of simply one International Trader button, have something like...

"Are you from: 1) The United States; 2) Outside the United States?

Do you want to trade with people from outside the United States?"

Two simple questions, replacing the one simple question we have now. It'd actually be a pretty small change, and it would help American traders tremendously.


There aren't 37000 people trading or posting on this forum. The vast majority of the member list is dead weight as far as being an active trader is concerned. Member like me, for instance, wouldn't have to edit my profile unless I felt like it because my location means nothing as I don't trade. People who do trade would be reminded they need to fix their profile every time they posted in the trading forums, because it would be missing under their name. Your idea works, too, though, I s'pose.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Shadow88 on August 05, 2006]

 
pyr0ma5ta
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posted August 13, 2006 10:26 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for pyr0ma5ta Click Here to Email pyr0ma5ta Send a private message to pyr0ma5ta Click to send pyr0ma5ta an Instant MessageVisit pyr0ma5ta's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by eclinchy:

Do you want to trade with people from outside the United States?"

While a good first pass, this solution does not address the fact that a large percentage of the trading population here is not from the US (Europe, Asia, and South America). It would not help 2 Brazilian traders recognize an in-country trade, for example. I would prefer the drop-down box, although it is much more work for coders.

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eclinchy
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posted August 13, 2006 08:27 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for eclinchy Click Here to Email eclinchy Send a private message to eclinchy Click to send eclinchy an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
If you're not from the U.S., then you just check the box that says yes, you do want to trade outside the U.S. Plain and simple.

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pyr0ma5ta
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posted August 14, 2006 10:30 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for pyr0ma5ta Click Here to Email pyr0ma5ta Send a private message to pyr0ma5ta Click to send pyr0ma5ta an Instant MessageVisit pyr0ma5ta's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by eclinchy:
If you're not from the U.S., then you just check the box that says yes, you do want to trade outside the U.S. Plain and simple.


That is awfully closeminded. The world (contrary to the opinion of most Americans) does not consist of America, and not America. Other countries deserve respect as well. Why should they be excluded?

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sys41o
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posted August 14, 2006 10:34 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for sys41o Click Here to Email sys41o Send a private message to sys41o Click to send sys41o an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by pyr0ma5ta:
That is awfully closeminded. The world (contrary to the opinion of most Americans) does not consist of America, and not America. Other countries deserve respect as well. Why should they be excluded?


Very true. Would the exclusion function be expanded to those people who don't want to trade outside of Europe or South America or Asia?

[Edited 1 times, lastly by sys41o on August 14, 2006]

 
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I have never seen an example of someone from outside the U.S. wanting to only trade with people within their own country. Seriously. Every list that comes from someone out of the country just says "I am from X. This will be an overseas trade, if you don't like it press ALT-F4." Not "European traders only!"

Sure, they "shouldn't" be excluded. But I think giving the option for North America would benefit a lot of people, while extending the options for every other continent may be a lot more of a hassle to implement and wouldn't benefit many people, it'd just be an act of trying to look fair.

 
eclinchy
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posted August 14, 2006 12:51 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for eclinchy Click Here to Email eclinchy Send a private message to eclinchy Click to send eclinchy an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by pyr0ma5ta:
That is awfully closeminded. The world (contrary to the opinion of most Americans) does not consist of America, and not America. Other countries deserve respect as well. Why should they be excluded?

Why are you blaming me of all people for being closeminded?

This "closemindedness," as you call it, is already in effect. When you post a H/W list on this site, you'll see a check-box labeled, and I quote...

"International Trader: Check this box if you live outside the US and Canada, or live within the US or Canada and are willing to trade with people from foreign countries."

I'm not the bad guy here. I'm not suggesting some radically racist/nativist system of discriminating against foreigners. I'm just saying we take the policy that already applies to the H/W List forum, and we expand it to also develop the trade matcher. That's all.

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