posted January 14, 2004 01:36 PM            

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Originally posted by implode:
9:36 will always be remembered...

http://www.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum12/HTML/012395-10.html

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you mean it wasn't my imagination after all?!

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posted January 14, 2004 01:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Lord Titi:
you mean it wasn't my imagination after all?!

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Oops...I thought I had just fallen asleep at work! My post count is glad it wasn't a dream.

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posted January 14, 2004 01:38 PM            

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Originally posted by implode:
[B]9:36 will always be remembered...

B]

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posted January 14, 2004 01:41 PM            

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Originally posted by flaminio:
Layoffs were announced today. Thankfully, I wasn't on the list, so I get to keep my job for now.

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I just quit my job.. thankfully..

I forgot what I was gonna post after that

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posted January 14, 2004 01:44 PM            

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posted January 14, 2004 01:45 PM            

I swear they're above the law.

posted January 14, 2004 01:46 PM            

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posted January 14, 2004 01:55 PM         

We talked for a couple minutes about how old people should be like us and visit card and comic stores more often.

Today is a good day.

Edit - For reference, Robin Williams lives in Seacliff, which is a wealthy neighborhood in San Francisco and is only a few blocks from this store.

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posted January 14, 2004 01:56 PM         

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Originally posted by HanSolo6385:
Whoa, you dewds won't believe this. I just met--not saw--met Robin Williams at the card store. The only store in SF with sanctioned tournaments and Robin Williams was there today. Whooo

We talked for a couple minutes about how old people should be like us and visit card and comic stores more often.

Today is a good day.

Edit - For reference, Robin Williams lives in Seacliff, which is a wealthy neighborhood in San Francisco and is only a few blocks from this store.

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I hope you owned his funny ***

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Originally posted by bel_riose:
Never wanted to know what means potm?

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posted January 14, 2004 01:56 PM            

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Originally posted by HanSolo6385:
Whoa, you dewds won't believe this. I just met--not saw--met Robin Williams at the card store. The only store in SF with sanctioned tournaments and Robin Williams was there today. Whooo

We talked for a couple minutes about how old people should be like us and visit card and comic stores more often.

Today is a good day.

Edit - For reference, Robin Williams lives in Seacliff, which is a wealthy neighborhood in San Francisco and is only a few blocks from this store.

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Is it true that he's an exceptionally nice guy?

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posted January 14, 2004 01:59 PM         

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Originally posted by nderdog:
Is it true that he's an exceptionally nice guy?

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Yeah, he is. It's kind of funny how celebrities dress when they go out. He had a 5 o'clock shadow that could scare children and was wearing an orange raincoat with khakis. He's so

I also went and saw a play two months ago with him in it. (A live play btw)

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posted January 14, 2004 02:16 PM            

Post Count
Shadow88 - 25 (Pages 6 & 8 claimed)
implode - 21 (Page 4 claimed)
nderdog - 21
Token - 16
Lord Titi - 16
MasterWolf - 15 (Pages 2, 3 & 5 claimed)
potm - 14 (Last post)
Kluckers - 13
HanSolo6385 - 11
Erl00 - 10
b_berry11 - 9 (Page 10 claimed)
Greven53 - 8
Rogue_Leader87 - 8
GottaLoveElves - 7 (Page 9 claimed)
Havoc Demon - 7 (Page 7 claimed)
dputz - 4
Blastoderm55 - 4
Master - 4
teroknorevents - 4
MagicMystic - 3
torie_62 - 3
DarkWaters - 2
SauronDL69 - 2
*Tedman* - 2
BlindFaithZero - 1 (Page 1 claimed)
Tab - 1
Mr. Precious - 1
theDJ - 1
dotzcom13 - 1
PlasteredDragon - 1
iccarus - 1
super324 - 1
TeenieBopper - 1

posted January 14, 2004 02:20 PM            

Oh wow, this is my 1300th post, pretty sad considering I've been here since 2000.

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posted January 14, 2004 02:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Kluckers:
I apologize to MOTL for directing torie's husband to the General Discussion forum. My bad... 9:36PM hysteria.

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As long as we have someone to blame.

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posted January 14, 2004 02:21 PM         

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Originally posted by MagicMystic:
wow tony, you had time to calculate all that, yet you can't put survivor signups up?!

Oh wow, this is my 1300th post, pretty sad considering I've been here since 2000.

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DONT BE SO BLOODY TENSE MAN!! LAY ORF THE COF
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posted January 14, 2004 02:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Erl00:
While I think these results deserve much congratulations, do you think you're in good way to break the world record??

It seems a huge effort to go from depth 16 to 17. And I intuitively believe that the effort required to go one step beyond will grow exponentially (at least).

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D=16 required a much larger effort than D=17 actually... because I was looking in the wrong place (3p+/-531440). Since I generated 3 D=17 and 4 D=16 trees in the first 100 million tests on 2p+/-4095 I feel pretty good about my chances of finding a tree of D=18 in the first billion tests which should take about 5 days or so.

For D>18 I may have a few tricks up my sleeve yet. There are always exceptions out there waiting to be found, such as 2p+/-15 at 13 which has a very respectable depth of 15 but an amazing population of 71. Nothing has come close but 2p+/-15 at 13 and 2p+/-4095 at 3821 both share a very interesting property: some of the children are LESS than the starting prime. For example: 2p+/-15 at 13, 2x13-15 = 11 which is prime and less than 13. 2x11-15 in turn = 7 which is also prime. So 2p+/-15 at 13 is like grafting 3 trees together, and therefore it is no suprise that it is so darn big. By playing around with this idea, it might be possible to cause a larger tree to be formed without having to go tearing off into the billions with weeks of overnight computations.

Technically, it's quite possible to create an INFINITE tree, such as 2p+/-3 at 3. 2x3 - 3 is 3 and 3 is prime so put it in the tree... ad infinitum. I've excluded infinite trees of this type, but there may be other types of inifinite trees that may arise when exploring trees which generate offspring which are less than the root. What if n x a - o = b and n x b + o = a and both a and b are prime, for example? Is this possible?

Anyway, I'm not interested in infinite trees at this time.

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Originally posted by Erl00:
Is there any theory prooving that the world record is breakable?

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Well we know that the number of primes is infinite. There's nothing magic about the number 22, there is no reason to believe that if an arithmetic progression of length 22 exists, then one of 23 can't exist. Further an arithmetic progression can be expressed as a prime tree (unfortunately infinite) where the coefficient is 1--1p+o, where o is the interval of the progression.

Secondly since an arithmetic progression requires that for each prime there can only be ONE child, but a prime tree allows for TWO, my chances of finding a prime tree of D=23 are FAR better than my chances of finding a progression of length 23.

I have no doubt that such trees exist, heck there are probably trees out there that can run for hundreds of generations. The only problem is that such trees are likely expressed as 294612834692386192384791238461286p+/-872133285946243756987093623287409489253 at 987423974928729387129387198357 and therefore finding them is the hard part.

The short answer is no, there's no theory proving it possible. One can probably do a proof and I suspect a proof would indicate that it is VERY possible. I'm not equipped to do such a proof.

Will I give up? Maybe. Maybe I'll move on to some other interest, or a different problem in math. In the meantime, though, it's pretty easy to run computations overnight and check the results in the morning, so I have no immediate plans to stop trying.

EDIT: Thanks for the congratulations, BTW!!!

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posted January 14, 2004 02:37 PM            

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posted January 14, 2004 02:37 PM            

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Originally posted by HanSolo6385:
Whoa, you dewds won't believe this. I just met--not saw--met Robin Williams at the card store. The only store in SF with sanctioned tournaments and Robin Williams was there today. Whooo

We talked for a couple minutes about how old people should be like us and visit card and comic stores more often.

Today is a good day.

Edit - For reference, Robin Williams lives in Seacliff, which is a wealthy neighborhood in San Francisco and is only a few blocks from this store.

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Is he really that hairy in person??

posted January 14, 2004 02:39 PM         

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Originally posted by TheGame:
Is he really that hairy in person??

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Oh yeah. He's like 5'9" or something (real short guy) and hairier than my dogs.

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posted January 14, 2004 02:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Erl00:
Only 10? I would have sworn to have posted at least 20... I was in a total transe.

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Anyone else think the torries are messed up?

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torie: hey
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torie: you were having fun on the wild threwad
Laura: he MSNed me and asked what I was up to... I was posting on the 9:36PM thread and I told him.
torie: oh well
torie: lol
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torie: From: inca911
No warning issued, and no worries. It didn't quite feel like someone who knew MOTL well.

Laura: I told him to check it out cuz it was weird. you know, just to see it, cuz it doesn't happen to often.
Laura: (he isn't mentally handicapped or anything i hope.)
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torie: ol
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torie: he's just never been on there ...I'll have to teach him

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torie: Tom says (8) "I'm bad,(8) I'm bad, I'm really really bad"(8)(8)
torie: want to talk to Janelle for a bit?
Laura: wtf is going on?
torie: (^)jellean<:o)
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torie: Hi...crazy spammer here...I got rid of "the kid"
torie: I put her in my closet! hehehe
torie: bye ttyl
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