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Originally posted by 98ViperGTS:
Unfortunately, this is not between me and you. Why would I let others from this site and others, experience the same type of "service" that I received from you? Most of us on here are a tight knit group, and share in our good and bad experiences. I have every right to let them know.
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Obviously it was and not anymore. I just wanted to state my side wrong or right, I'm kinda stand up guy.

Even when I might be wrong.

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Obviously since you're so upset you're a complete moron to think they were in stock and this wasn't a mistake, come on at least the other @#$%ing losers who looked at that either email me or were not loser enough to order like you.

Then to top it off you got ****ed and begged for your cards, dude seriously we have laughed at your loser ass now for 3 days, the internet is a big place I'm sure since you're so mad you must be so right so you should find them somewhere else for $3 LOL.

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Greetings we have received your check for order #XXXXXX, the check will take 3 weeks to clear the bank, and it may take additional time before your order can be shipped depending on how long it takes for our second shipment of Zendikar to arrive. I ask you to please be patient and we will Ship your order as soon as possible.

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3 weeks for a check to clear? (only sent on request they couldnt clear a 2.5k cc charge, wtf) and having to relegate my PRE ORDER to 2nd shipment? ridiculous. SCG guaranteed their pre orders..

was told on the phone, with check in hand to be deposited, they cant hold the 24 boxes in good faith for 5 days for the check to clear.

pathetic.. another one for the bbb.

my recommendation is never order from abu. and alterealitygames just got put on my craplist.

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Originally posted by 98ViperGTS:
Anybody from here also have a MTG Salvation account, that can link this info to the guys over there?

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He would rather alienate customers (I know I like several other won't be buying from there)then lose out on a few bucks to make one happy . This post could have gone a whole different direction if he would have honored your order.Could have been something like hey this online retailer had a mispriced item and honored the order I placed. Its a very stand up shop to deal with.

BBB that crap. I am glad you posted this. For a "stand up guy" and a business owner, Jim seems like a D-Bag. If he was out of the cards, he should of let you know, and when he was restocked, hooked you up. I let my people know I had Zen boxes at $85-90ish and I backed it up. I could of said," Im out... sorry!", but I am a believer in follow through and customer service.

I'm not trying to plug a store, but if I really need singles and can't find them on here, I use coolstuffinc.

I have played there, sold to them, and met the owners.

Brad, I am active on a couple other forums and will link this on them . Bad business deserved to get flamed.

Coolio.... I am vindictive enough to add ABU on my **** list.

Nder.... Perhaps we can start a Bad Store alert! I would of course notify the store of the posting and give them the chance to make it right.... if not, the community should know!

I work at a small local hobby store, and as such, our singles prices are generally about 15-20% more than SCG (exchange etc). There is another hobby store about 10 minutes away that caters pretty much to tweens learning the game that has offensive prices. They have Archmage Ascensions at $12.00 each....

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I used to buy from ABU ALL the time. I would actually chat with Gabe for an hour or so at a time. He gave me good value on my cards, and let me know when something I wanted came in before it hit their stock (NM Beta Mana Vault). Then some incident between him and the BOSS got him fired and Customer service dropped considerably. In what would've been my last transaction with them I asked him if he would match StarCity's prices on a few cards, which Gabe would've done, and he told me to buy from them if I didn't like his prices (the difference was only about $8-10).

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Telling someone to go buy somewhere else is always a good way to lose business.

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however, you did not put up much of a case for yourself and i think you actually made it look worse by your comments IMO.

However, I'm sure most of you are greedy, just like the next magic player, just like me. We're gonna take the best deal, regardless of what we think of the store. I feel extra good getting a sweet deal from a jerk dealer because I can rub it in against him. So if Bad Moon jumps up to $30 tomorrow, please don't buy them from alterreality at $2 a pop so that I can get them all.

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I'm glad he came on here, and I could care less about this particular case because I happen to believe he was sold out due to years of positive business transactions with Jim.

However, I'm sure most of you are greedy, just like the next magic player, just like me. We're gonna take the best deal, regardless of what we think of the store. I feel extra good getting a sweet deal from a jerk dealer because I can rub it in against him. So if Bad Moon jumps up to $30 tomorrow, please don't buy them from alterreality at $2 a pop so that I can get them all.

98ViperGTS: I feel for you dude. I think you got treated rough, and that email he sent was uncalled for. I'm sorry you couldn't turn a quick buck by ripping off the store and selling them on Ebay. Hopefully it'll work next time. But seeing as he didn't harm you really, and that you are no worse for wear, I can't feel all that sympathetic for you bud.

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i hope you don't plan to be a stock broker or any financial investment consultant, because i just cant see how your clients will make any money.

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Originally posted by MasterWolf:
I'm glad he came on here, and I could care less about this particular case because I happen to believe he was sold out due to years of positive business transactions with Jim.

However, I'm sure most of you are greedy, just like the next magic player, just like me. We're gonna take the best deal, regardless of what we think of the store. I feel extra good getting a sweet deal from a jerk dealer because I can rub it in against him. So if Bad Moon jumps up to $30 tomorrow, please don't buy them from alterreality at $2 a pop so that I can get them all.

98ViperGTS: I feel for you dude. I think you got treated rough, and that email he sent was uncalled for. I'm sorry you couldn't turn a quick buck by ripping off the store and selling them on Ebay. Hopefully it'll work next time. But seeing as he didn't harm you really, and that you are no worse for wear, I can't feel all that sympathetic for you bud.

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I'm sorry you couldn't turn a quick buck by ripping off the store and selling them on Ebay.

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Originally posted by MasterWolf:
I'm glad he came on here, and I could care less about this particular case because I happen to believe he was sold out due to years of positive business transactions with Jim.

However, I'm sure most of you are greedy, just like the next magic player, just like me. We're gonna take the best deal, regardless of what we think of the store. I feel extra good getting a sweet deal from a jerk dealer because I can rub it in against him. So if Bad Moon jumps up to $30 tomorrow, please don't buy them from alterreality at $2 a pop so that I can get them all.

98ViperGTS: I feel for you dude. I think you got treated rough, and that email he sent was uncalled for. I'm sorry you couldn't turn a quick buck by ripping off the store and selling them on Ebay. Hopefully it'll work next time. But seeing as he didn't harm you really, and that you are no worse for wear, I can't feel all that sympathetic for you bud.

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nocturnus was peaking 6+ a wk before zendikar PR.. I'd know, cuz i was doing my buylist then, and commented to slinga about it.. really? if you are an online magic store, and are 3 wks behind on the news at the minimum, you dont deserve to be in business.. end of story. there are plenty of other online stores that actually know wtf is going on and price accordingly.. it's called research.. if you get lazy and dont do it, and get pounded, you deserve whats coming.

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coolio: The store hasn't lost anything. This has not affected them in the slightest. So whatever they may or may not deserve, they did not get yet. It's not like we're a judge and jury and are deciding someone's fate. Viper wanted a good deal. He didn't get it. He's mad at the store, everyone agrees with him.

I3Iood: I don't feel like explaining anything. I'm done with this issue. Look up the definition of ripping off if you really care that much.

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if he sold the cards at those prices, he should honor them. If he is out of stock, he should send him the cards when he gets restocked IMO.

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Life doesn't work that way bud. I wish it did. Sadly dealers and shops are for the most part grubby greedy little people. They want to make money. Most stores will honor sales they make, but I have never heard of a company sending the same product at the original price if they run out and reorder and the price has changed.

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
Telling someone to go buy somewhere else is always a good way to lose business.

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True, but if you're doing that you're essentially saying "If you want to treat us like that we don't want your business."

On point: It's all sorts of against the law to advertise a price and not honor it. As Jeff alluded to in his first post on this thread, you have a pretty strong case to nail Jim to the wall for this if you really want to pursue a matter of $11. I would at the very least send the e-mails to the BBB as a warning to any potential future customers.

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I3Iood: I don't feel like explaining anything. I'm done with this issue. Look up the definition of ripping off if you really care that much.

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98ViperGTS: I feel for you dude. I think you got treated rough, and that email he sent was uncalled for. I'm sorry you couldn't turn a quick buck by ripping off the store and selling them on Ebay. Hopefully it'll work next time. But seeing as he didn't harm you really, and that you are no worse for wear, I can't feel all that sympathetic for you bud.

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If I was really going to try and turn a profit from that, don't you think I would have ordered more than 3?, which I conveniently need to complete my playset and for my own personal use.

Furthermore, I'm wondering how it's possible to rip a store off for cards they received for free for release events? is that even possible?