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shiqin
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posted April 11, 2010 10:32 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for shiqin Click Here to Email shiqin Send a private message to shiqin Click to send shiqin an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Anyone dealt with them?
 
Aznopium
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i bought stuff from them~
didnt have any issue.
 
bigbob585
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I buy from them on occasion. What info were you looking for?
 
shiqin
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posted April 11, 2010 11:21 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for shiqin Click Here to Email shiqin Send a private message to shiqin Click to send shiqin an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
i sold some crap type 2 to them, they updated the status so i believed that they received, but no payment from them. i sent them an email(over the weekend) but they have not responded, maybe they will tomorrow. A friend got ripped by channel fireball, so i had doubts.
 
Thanos
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posted April 11, 2010 11:26 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Thanos Click Here to Email Thanos Send a private message to Thanos Click to send Thanos an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by shiqin:
i sold some crap type 2 to them, they updated the status so i believed that they received, but no payment from them. i sent them an email(over the weekend) but they have not responded, maybe they will tomorrow. A friend got ripped by channel fireball, so i had doubts.

They might be closed over the weekend, I'd give them a few business days to answer before I became concerned.

As for Channel Fireball, they ripped me off too so I don't deal with them either.

 
Tha Gunslinga
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posted April 11, 2010 11:33 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Tha Gunslinga Click Here to Email Tha Gunslinga Send a private message to Tha Gunslinga Click to send Tha Gunslinga an Instant MessageVisit Tha Gunslinga's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Tha Gunslinga's Trade Auction or SaleView Tha Gunslinga's Trade Auction or Sale
quote:
Originally posted by Thanos:
As for Channel Fireball, they ripped me off too so I don't deal with them either.

What happened?

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wayne
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To shiqin and Thanos: Did you guys use DC / registered mail?
 
shiqin
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posted April 11, 2010 12:33 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for shiqin Click Here to Email shiqin Send a private message to shiqin Click to send shiqin an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
i din use r.mail for whitelion as it was a small deal and i could afford to lose them. But they changed the status of the order using a term that meant that they have received it.(they have a weird system in that both buy and sell have the same type of invoices, meaning I ordered a sell).

Regarding channelfireball, my friend used R.mail and it reflected they received, he did not receive payment(got burnt 400), nor receive any replies from the emails he sent.

 
Thanos
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posted April 11, 2010 12:47 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Thanos Click Here to Email Thanos Send a private message to Thanos Click to send Thanos an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Tha Gunslinga:
What happened?


I bought an Antiquities Strip Mine (small tower) off of them on ebay last year.

(I needed it to complete a set)

When I received it was the common picture (like the one in chronicles).

I contacted them and was told to send it back and they would send me the correct one.

I sent it back (with DC) and waited a few weeks.

After contacting them again I was told that they were having trouble finding one, and that when they did find one they would refund my money and send me the card for my trouble.

Waited another 2 weeks and contacted them again, this time told there were busy fulfilling preorders and that they were only able to get a signed version of the card I wanted.

I told them that was fine, I would accept that one, and that was the last I heard from them, I never received the card and they never again responded to my emails.

When I originally returned the card, I opened a claim on paypal, but I never escalated it after they told me they would replace it.

I was only out $8.00, so I'm not worried about that, it's just that I'll never deal with them or recommend them to anyone.

*edit*

I have all the emails from them also, I was in contact with someone there named Tommy.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Thanos on April 11, 2010]

 
EuroRunner
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posted April 11, 2010 01:07 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for EuroRunner Click Here to Email EuroRunner Send a private message to EuroRunner Click to send EuroRunner an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
in the channelfireball forums there is a list of similar complaints. numerous people have sold to them and never received payment while continuing to receive the run around from the store employees. great articles, terrible service.
 
98ViperGTS
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2 more to add to the list of unacceptable retail stores....

right up there with alterrealitygames, ABU, and Hobby Goblins.....

 
dwiz
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quote:
Originally posted by 98ViperGTS:
2 more to add to the list of unacceptable retail stores....

right up there with alterrealitygames, ABU, and Hobby Goblins.....


& magicarsenal

 
farsk8dutch
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quote:
Originally posted by 98ViperGTS:
2 more to add to the list of unacceptable retail stores....

right up there with alterrealitygames, ABU, and Hobby Goblins.....


I won an auction on ebay from HG a while back, an alpha lot, in it were supposed to be two False Orders. There was only one and it was beta. Haha funny, I guess.

What's wrong with ABU? Besides their overly inflated prices they seem like they have everything. I've been thinking about placing an order with them for some older stuff that hasn't been marked up that much... yet.

 
Louisboy
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posted April 12, 2010 09:56 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Louisboy Click Here to Email Louisboy Send a private message to Louisboy Click to send Louisboy an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
yea what's wrong with abu if you don't mind sharing.
 
CephalidBreakfast
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Not sure about the others, but I've never had anything but fast transactions and good buy prices from ABU, and I've sold to them three or four times.
 
98ViperGTS
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quote:
Originally posted by Louisboy:
yea what's wrong with abu if you don't mind sharing.

http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/024053-2.html

 
Thanos
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posted April 13, 2010 06:14 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Thanos Click Here to Email Thanos Send a private message to Thanos Click to send Thanos an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by 98ViperGTS:
http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/024053-2.html


NM, I see it.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Thanos on April 13, 2010]
 
marton stromglad
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i know big rob, he's the guy who runs it. he's an honest guy. good to have around a card shop if you want some laughs

[Edited 1 times, lastly by marton stromglad on April 20, 2010]
 
Conan4015
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Yes, big Rob and Chris run this place. I would have claimed it to be a standup place - however, they cancelled my order - not two days ago. Please keep in mind my order was NOT even for cards that had gone up - simply because I had placed it.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by 98ViperGTS:
http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/024053-2.html

the best part of that thread was the one motler masterwolf who defended alter reality ended up posting later on that he got blacklisted by said store

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Conan4015:
Yes, big Rob and Chris run this place. I would have claimed it to be a standup place - however, they cancelled my order - not two days ago. Please keep in mind my order was NOT even for cards that had gone up - simply because I had placed it.


Yeah, but you buy for a fairly well known store...don't you?

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Louisboy
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quote:
Originally posted by iccarus:
Yeah, but you buy for a fairly well known store...don't you?


Trollandtoad I believe

 
coolio
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quote:
Originally posted by iccarus:
Yeah, but you buy for a fairly well known store...don't you?


that's not the point.

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Tha Gunslinga
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Who cares? If you're looking to buy cards, at listed prices, they should sell you cards. It doesn't matter if you work for another store, or sell crack on the side, or worship satan, or hate freedom. You're in business to sell cards. Sell them.

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shiqin
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posted April 26, 2010 04:44 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for shiqin Click Here to Email shiqin Send a private message to shiqin Click to send shiqin an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Some updates,

i requested to sell them cards on 15th march which they approve. They updated my status on 1st april with this
Order status has changed to: Waiting on store
Order status details: On Hold - Reviewing recieved sell to us items.
These are some of the questions i asked before i sent them anything.

4. How fast do you take to clear payment upon receipt of the cards?

Ans:
"Usually 3-5 business days after we receive the cards we make payment"
They told me this before i sent them anything.

6. I am from international, how long would u guys wait for the cards before canceling a deal?

Ans:
If we have a Tracking number or proof of shipment we will wait for the package

After tons of unreplied email and web inquiry forms, they replied on 20th april.

Shiquin,
This is Rob Moore, Shipping Manager for White Lion Games. We apologize for the long wait. We have received a ton of sell to us orders and unfortunately yours is among many. While I am not generally in charge of processing those myself, I can assure you that you are being attended to as quickly as possible. As a further measure I will inquire about your order specifically myself.

Rob Moore
WLG

They soon tended to my packages, and here comes the shock.

Shiqin, there was an additional $25.65 in another sleeve packaged.


Paypal: $58.74, Check $57.00 or Store Credit $65.00.


Chris
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From: Chris
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 2:21 AM
To: Shiqin Huang
Cc: Customers
Subject: Re: Selling cards to whiteliongames


$33.09 is the revised total Shiqin due to the lateness of the packages arrival.

Would you like Paypal $33.09, Check $31.00 or Store Credit of $40.00 ?



Thanks!


Chris
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The total originally was $78++(i wanted to test out this store), so for no reason i will be out $20 for nothing. I did tell them i was from international and the package took 15 days to reach them, i have never had such experience. Initially i couldn't be bothered anymore, and accepted it, but up till today, i am still not paid. I think i will be requesting them to send me back the package instead.

 

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