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stu55 Member	posted June 19, 2011 09:04 PM Announcement Date: June 20, 2011 Effective Date: July 1, 2011 Magic Online Effective Date: June 29, 2011 Standard Jace, the Mind Sculptor is banned. Stoneforge Mystic is banned. Exception: The deck list for the "War of Attrition" Event Deck will be legal in Standard if kept completely intact. That deck, which went on sale on June 10, contains two copies of Stoneforge Mystic. On Magic Online, Jace, the Mind Sculptor and Stoneforge Mystic will both be banned in Standard as of the June 29, 2011 downtime. There will be no exceptions made for the Event Deck containing Stoneforge Mystic, as that deck will not be sold online. Scars of Mirrodin Block Constructed, Extended, Legacy, Vintage No changes Changes to Magic Online–only formats are now announced monthly in the Magic Online Community Group blog. For the complete list of all banned and restricted cards by format, click here. For an explanation of the B&R changes from R&D member Aaron Forsythe, click here.
Bugger Member	posted June 19, 2011 09:05 PM Holy ***. Well. All hail Valakut? __________________ "I never got any respect at all. My family moved a lot when I was a kid, but I always found them."* -- Rodney Dangerfield
thror Member	posted June 19, 2011 09:15 PM quote: Originally posted by Bugger: Holy ****. Well. All hail Valakut? trade one dominant 60 for another. anyone remember how we beat valakut before cawblade saved us from it?
blackmoon74x9 Member	posted June 19, 2011 09:17 PM im sooooo mad i just bought my 4 jaces no joke not no more than 2 weeks ago
Volcanon Member	posted June 19, 2011 09:18 PM Why buy a playset of a card rotating in a few months? The best part is that T2 decks are now $400 cheaper. [Edited 1 times, lastly by Volcanon on June 19, 2011]
choco man Member	posted June 19, 2011 09:21 PM quote: Originally posted by thror: trade one dominant 60 for another. anyone remember how we beat valakut before cawblade saved us from it? Combo?
SageShadows Member	posted June 19, 2011 09:22 PM I can't believe wizards actually pulled the trigger. Thoughts on the prices?
Bugger Member	posted June 19, 2011 09:22 PM quote: Originally posted by blackmoon74x9: im sooooo mad i just bought my 4 jaces no joke not no more than 2 weeks ago Lol, what volcanon said. You'd get what, less than two months out of it? His price would have dropped anyway if you wanted to sellhim prior to rotation. But his value wont drop too far, because he's played in every other format. So I don't see the big deal. __________________ "I never got any respect at all. My family moved a lot when I was a kid, but I always found them." -- Rodney Dangerfield
blackmoon74x9 Member	posted June 19, 2011 09:32 PM quote: Originally posted by Bugger: Lol, what volcanon said. You'd get what, less than two months out of it? His price would have dropped anyway if you wanted to sellhim prior to rotation. But his value wont drop too far, because he's played in every other format. So I don't see the big deal. yeah i know i really didnt spend money on them i just traded a bunch of bunk to channelfireball for them i might just trade them away or just play extended
oneofchaos Member	posted June 19, 2011 09:38 PM I hope wizards refunds everyone's event deck purchases. They said you could play it at FNM. If I buy one I will be DQ'd. False advertising much? Also standard is actually skill based again. Yay. Edit: NVM you acan actually play the event deck without modifications. At least wizards is honorable. [Edited 1 times, lastly by oneofchaos on June 19, 2011]
stu55 Member	posted June 19, 2011 09:39 PM quote: Originally posted by oneofchaos: I hope wizards refunds everyone's event deck purchases. They said you could play it at FNM. If I buy one I will be DQ'd. False advertising much? Also standard is actually skill based again. Yay. Exception: The deck list for the "War of Attrition" Event Deck will be legal in Standard if kept completely intact. That deck, which went on sale on June 10, contains two copies of Stoneforge Mystic.
thror Member	posted June 19, 2011 09:39 PM quote: Originally posted by oneofchaos: I hope wizards refunds everyone's event deck purchases. They said you could play it at FNM. If I buy one I will be DQ'd. False advertising much? Also standard is actually skill based again. Yay. you obv didnt read the B&R update. there is 1 exception to the SFM ban - if you play the event deck 100% unchanged, its ok. (because its a precon, and its a piece of **** anyway) __________________ "He fights you not because you have wronged him, but because you are there." [16:17] <@BrassMan> what do you need new tech for? [16:18] <@BrassMan> gush is unrestricted [19:01] <nderEvo> you can delete yourself
CoupDeGrace Member	posted June 19, 2011 09:54 PM I love this B&R list but eternal format can benefit this ! RIP Cawblade anyway ! [Edited 1 times, lastly by CoupDeGrace on June 19, 2011]
Trading Wife Member	posted June 19, 2011 10:00 PM quote: Originally posted by SageShadows: I can't believe wizards actually pulled the trigger. Thoughts on the prices? I call it $20 each as a mythic, especially since legacy decks usually only run 2 and extended will likely only run 3, or it will get banned from Ext. Now we need 1 for EDH, 3 for legacy and 3 for a kitchen table blue deck.
blackmoon74x9 Member	posted June 19, 2011 10:21 PM batterskull price is going to drop fer sure there is no way into sneaking it in now
Teferi Planeswalker Member	posted June 19, 2011 10:23 PM quote: Originally posted by Trading Wife: I call it $20 each as a mythic, especially since legacy decks usually only run 2 and extended will likely only run 3, or it will get banned from Ext. Now we need 1 for EDH, 3 for legacy and 3 for a kitchen table blue deck. Lol at people who say its gonna plummet and then plan on buying a set or more of them. Its because you plan on buying them, that they wont go that low. Also, mad props to whoever plays a pimped out war of attrition deck at an FNM.
joz Banned	posted June 19, 2011 10:24 PM quote: Originally posted by blackmoon74x9: batterskull price is going to drop fer sure there is no way into sneaking it in now This makes me happy like you have no idea. Woot! <-also glad he got rid of his batterskulls already! __________________ Joz - can we ban Leshrac for not fixing the Chrome PM issue? Gunslinga - If I thought it would help, and if I could, I would.
totalkaoz Member	posted June 19, 2011 10:38 PM I'm really surprised and disappointed. Not because I played Jace+SFM, but because now we have to put up with un-interactive Valakut and Splinter Twin.
jaromirjagr Member	posted June 19, 2011 10:54 PM quote: Originally posted by oneofchaos: Also standard is actually skill based again. Yay. It wont be skill based as long as the internet is around and people can just check out whats winning at worlds and go buy net decks. __________________ #1 in refs in B.C.,Canada #2 in Canada Top 40 in refs on motl email-junglejuan6859@hotmail.com
potaguitar Member	posted June 19, 2011 10:57 PM Agreed. Standard will never be skills-based as long as the internet is around. Instead of losing to caw-blade over and over, I can now lose to valakut over and over. Oh joy
ScottyStyles Member	posted June 19, 2011 10:59 PM quote: Originally posted by oneofchaos: Also standard is actually skill based again. Yay. Cawblade v Cawblade was one of the most skill intensive matches I've seen in a long time. In it's heyday, Affinity v Affinity was all about luck... hell, the deck was all about luck. But if you look at top 8's of major standard tournaments, it's been mostly very highly skilled professionals - no random unknowns really.
kennethcplace Member	posted June 19, 2011 11:57 PM Free at last, free at last, thank god almighty I'm free at last.
JensK Member	posted June 20, 2011 12:11 AM This makes WOTC look like amateurs! Printing Batterskull really shows how poor they are at reading a format. They printed a banned card in an Event deck a few months back. It looks to me like they haven't been able to make up their mind for a long time. I think they should start inviting the pro's to playtest new sets because they clearly aren't nearly good enough at that themselves.
Havoc Demon Member	posted June 20, 2011 12:33 AM Standard still sucks anyway. Enjoy three months of combo. __________________ Most References in Massachusetts 85th All-time Support my friend's store: http://www.tabletoparena.com
wayne Member	posted June 20, 2011 12:33 AM Meh, stopped playing Standard seriously since last October when there were no more cheap tier one decks. Come to think of it, will Vampires make a return? Edit: And WR Aggro [Edited 1 times, lastly by wayne on June 20, 2011]

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