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Topic: From the Vault: Legends
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psrex
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posted July 21, 2011 11:51 AM
        
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Originally posted by revenger:
Cant copy the link as im using a cell, but 3 cards supposdely spoiled for this ftv: legends are, sharuum the hedgemon (blahhhh), rafiq of the many (uhhhh ok) & kiki jiki, mirrorbreaker (kinda interestingal
This seems legit considering it's from an official image that WotC has on their page: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Article.aspx?x=mtg/tcg/products/allproducts Just scroll down to the FTV: Legends line and you can see it as a background for the product information.
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Zero Grade
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posted July 22, 2011 09:31 AM
Ugh, sounds like way too many reprints of recent cards from what I see here & rumors elsewhere. 4+ out of Alara block? Come on now Wizards.
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rats60
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posted July 22, 2011 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by Zero Grade:
Ugh, sounds like way too many reprints of recent cards from what I see here & rumors elsewhere. 4+ out of Alara block? Come on now Wizards.
The best has yet to be spoiled. There will be at least 2 Portal 3K cards and "several" pre Mirrodin cards. We have seen none of those yet. If Xiahou Dun is in the set, it will fly off the shelves.
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Bugger
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posted July 22, 2011 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by rats60:
The best has yet to be spoiled. There will be at least 2 Portal 3K cards and "several" pre Mirrodin cards. We have seen none of those yet. If Xiahou Dun is in the set, it will fly off the shelves.
Where is it confirmed there will be P3K and pre-mirrodin legends? __________________
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psrex
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posted July 22, 2011 10:55 AM
From the announcement of the product:quote:
Contents and Details * 15 Premium foil cards, including 7 with new art
* An exclusive spindown life counter
* A collector’s guide
* Each card has been printed using a foil process unique to the From the Vault series.
* The 15 legendary creatures are all printed in the current card frame. For several, it is for the first time.
* From the Vault: Legends will be available world-wide in English only, and will have an extremely limited print run.
* All cards are black bordered and tournament legal. This means that these cards are legal for use in any tournaments where the original printings are still legal. For some cards, it is their first time with a black border.
Being printed with a black border for the first time could only be P3K (no Legends in Starter). New card face is post-Mirrodin, but that would also include the P3K cards in the count.
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Bugger
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posted July 22, 2011 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by psrex:
From the announcement of the product:Being printed with a black border for the first time could only be P3K (no Legends in Starter). New card face is post-Mirrodin, but that would also include the P3K cards in the count.
Sorry, I meant to ask where he learned it would be two P3K cards printed, rather than one or, say, 5. __________________
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rats60
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posted July 22, 2011 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by Bugger:
Sorry, I meant to ask where he learned it would be two P3K cards printed, rather than one or, say, 5.
It says "cards" will be printed in black border for the first time. That means more than one, that is why I said "at least 2" will be printed. "Several" cards will be in the new frame for the first time. The use of different wording implies that there will be older cards other than P3K printed in the set.
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Zero Grade
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posted July 22, 2011 12:33 PM
I really doubt they're going to include a <$100 card in there. It'll probably end up being something like Lu Bu, in which case I will not be pursuing this set. Although, including anything with horsemanship seems iffly to me as well. I'm trying to think of what other sets had legends that would be in black border for the first time and not coming up with anything, but maybe that's because it's late on a Friday afternoon.  Don't forget there are tons and tons of cheesy legends from...Legends that can be tossed in as well. Not that I expect to see more than a couple, but one of the elder dragons seems likely. Plus, there's always the preview card in the FTV, so yay a legend from Innistrad!
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psrex
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posted July 22, 2011 12:42 PM
Personally I think that the P3K Legends will beHua Tuo, Honored Physician
Sun Quan, Lord of Wu I don't think that they'll reprint Xiahou Dun.
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hilikuS
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posted July 22, 2011 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by psrex:
Personally I think that the P3K Legends will beHua Tuo, Honored Physician
Sun Quan, Lord of Wu I don't think that they'll reprint Xiahou Dun.
I don't think it'll be the blue guy because we've already got Teferi as a mono blue dude. Seems like they'll do one of every mono color. So given that, I think the P3K guy could very well be the first dude you mentioned. I'm basically praying they don't reprint a guy with horsemanship, which kind of narrows it down.
[Edited 2 times, lastly by hilikuS on July 22, 2011]
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rats60
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posted July 22, 2011 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by psrex:
Personally I think that the P3K Legends will beHua Tuo, Honored Physician
Sun Quan, Lord of Wu I don't think that they'll reprint Xiahou Dun.
If they don't print Xiahou Dun, then the set isn't going to sell. You may see the first FTV set selling below MSRP. I also don't see them reprinting any of the legends with horsemanship.
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bigbob585
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posted July 22, 2011 02:17 PM
If they don't shape up this will be From the Vault: Fail
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stab107
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posted July 22, 2011 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by bigbob585:
If they don't shape up this will be From the Vault: Fail
Well, so far they have not managed to get my attention at all so you might be right. Sharrum, Kresh, Progenitus and Rafiq are so recent they just aren't exciting. Kiki-jiki and Teferi are not exactly hard to find either. Add the new legend from INN and you have almost half the set filled with stuff that is really no big deal. This might be the first FTV I don't buy.
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caquaa
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posted July 22, 2011 03:11 PM
The price on a normal foil progenitus and kiki-jiki alone will guarantee the set will sell. Both are $30+, so if you can get this set for anything reasonable then its worth while if you want to get foil versions of these cards.
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rats60
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posted July 22, 2011 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by caquaa:
The price on a normal foil progenitus and kiki-jiki alone will guarantee the set will sell. Both are $30+, so if you can get this set for anything reasonable then its worth while if you want to get foil versions of these cards.
People aren't going to pay a big premium for FTV cards. Many times they sell for less than the regular non foil versions. Without a big card like Berserk or Mox Diamond, this will be FTV Fail.
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Uthaedeol
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posted July 22, 2011 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by rats60:
People aren't going to pay a big premium for FTV cards. Many times they sell for less than the regular non foil versions. Without a big card like Berserk or Mox Diamond, this will be FTV Fail.
That's my feeling as well. Which makes me suspect there will be some big Legendary hit in the set. Something expensive like Volrath's Stronghold or Rofellos that's not on the reserved list. :P __________________
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rats60
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posted July 22, 2011 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by Uthaedeol:
That's my feeling as well. Which makes me suspect there will be some big Legendary hit in the set. Something expensive like Volrath's Stronghold or Rofellos that's not on the reserved list. :P
Except both of those cards are on the reserved list.
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Uthaedeol
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posted July 22, 2011 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by rats60:
Except both of those cards are on the reserved list.
Yeah that's what I'm saying...  __________________
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oneofchaos
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posted July 22, 2011 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by Uthaedeol:
Yeah that's what I'm saying...
They really should have done FTW commander instead... :-/
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rats60
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posted July 22, 2011 06:49 PM
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Originally posted by Uthaedeol:
Yeah that's what I'm saying...
My point is that if it's not Xiahou Dun, then what other legend not on the reserved list is going to make this set sell?
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Zero Grade
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posted July 22, 2011 07:15 PM
According to the panel at Comic-Con, the P3K Legend is Sun Quan, Lord of Wu. So not Xiahou Dun. I'm still surprised they chose someone with horsemanship - especially one that gives it to all your creatures!I suspect that's going to be the chase card of the set, as he seems to be a pretty good commander - although that's low for the "premium" card of a FTV (currently at $27).
Good guess psrex!!
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joz
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posted July 22, 2011 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by Zero Grade:
According to the panel at Comic-Con, the P3K Legend is Sun Quan, Lord of Wu. So not Xiahou Dun. I'm still surprised they chose someone with horsemanship - especially one that gives it to all your creatures!I suspect that's going to be the chase card of the set, as he seems to be a pretty good commander - although that's low for the "premium" card of a FTV (currently at $27).
Good guess psrex!!
He's a very bad commander, blue attack step? doesn't exist, __________________
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Lord Crovax
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posted July 22, 2011 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by joz:
He's a very bad commander, blue attack step? doesn't exist,
He is fun in U/X decks as a basic creature tho  ...Mormir Vig for example.. __________________
I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
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iccarus
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posted July 22, 2011 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
He is fun in U/X decks as a basic creature tho ...Mormir Vig for example..
Yeah, I could see him in some sort of UG tempo deck. Maybe something with Edric as the commander. __________________
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evilempire22
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posted July 22, 2011 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by Zero Grade:
According to the panel at Comic-Con, the P3K Legend is Sun Quan, Lord of Wu. So not Xiahou Dun. I'm still surprised they chose someone with horsemanship - especially one that gives it to all your creatures!I suspect that's going to be the chase card of the set, as he seems to be a pretty good commander - although that's low for the "premium" card of a FTV (currently at $27).
Good guess psrex!!
I was at the panel, awesome one btw. Anyways, I could have sworn one of the panel members made a quick comment about Sun Quan being one of the P3K legends in the FTV set, which would imply there would be at least one more. I can't confirm this 100% though, as it was a quick comment. if anyone else at the panel could confirm this (or not), that would be much appreciated. Anyways, it was also revealed that Doran, the Siege Tower is also included. --Evil __________________
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