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Topic: From the Vault: Legends
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caquaa Member
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posted July 23, 2011 01:44 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by rats60: People aren't going to pay a big premium for FTV cards. Many times they sell for less than the regular non foil versions. Without a big card like Berserk or Mox Diamond, this will be FTV Fail.
I'm not expecting a premium, but as a cheaper alternative to the real deal.
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Uthaedeol Member
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posted July 23, 2011 04:18 AM

quote: Originally posted by rats60: My point is that if it's not Xiahou Dun, then what other legend not on the reserved list is going to make this set sell?
Yeah I couldn't think of one either, so I just named some that were on the list but at least meet the hotness requirement.  Btw, is it possible Legendary non-creatures are in the set? __________________ Swamps suck. Mountains rock!
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stab107 Member
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posted July 23, 2011 05:31 AM

quote: Originally posted by evilempire22: Anyways, it was also revealed that Doran, the Siege Tower is also included.
Really? I even have a Doran deck and this is a total bummer. Ah well, can't win 'em all, I guess.
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Volcanon Member
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posted July 23, 2011 05:31 AM

quote: Originally posted by Uthaedeol: Yeah I couldn't think of one either, so I just named some that were on the list but at least meet the hotness requirement.  Btw, is it possible Legendary non-creatures are in the set?
WOTC: "* The 15 legendary creatures are all printed in the current card frame. For several, it is for the first time."
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AlmostGrown Member
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posted July 23, 2011 09:39 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by Uthaedeol:
Btw, is it possible Legendary non-creatures are in the set?
0% chance of that happening __________________ send ref checks, paypal payment or any questions to the email in my profile! Serra Angel Count: 364 Nightmare Count: 118 DCI Rules Advisor PlasteredDragon - Gone but not forgotten
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Devonin Member
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posted July 23, 2011 01:55 PM
  
So how long until "From the Vault: From the Vault"?
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joz Banned
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posted July 23, 2011 02:05 PM

quote: Originally posted by Devonin: So how long until "From the Vault: From the Vault"?
next summer; or if they do: From the Vault: Failures, the summer after. __________________ Joz - can we ban Leshrac for not fixing the Chrome PM issue?Gunslinga - If I thought it would help, and if I could, I would.
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oneofchaos Member
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posted July 23, 2011 02:10 PM

quote: Originally posted by joz: next summer; or if they do: From the Vault: Failures, the summer after.
This summer sounds like form the vault: failure
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joz Banned
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posted July 23, 2011 02:17 PM

quote: Originally posted by oneofchaos: This summer sounds like form the vault: failure
From the looks of it, probaly. So, this summer: From the Fault: Failures next summer: From the Vault: Oh-my-god...-again? after: from the fault: WOTC-headquarters-burned-to-the ground-charred-from-the-vault-edition. __________________ Joz - can we ban Leshrac for not fixing the Chrome PM issue?Gunslinga - If I thought it would help, and if I could, I would.
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Havoc Demon Member
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posted July 23, 2011 02:19 PM

Let's see what the other legends are before it gets dismissed. At least there aren't many more Alara blocks legends to force feed into this.__________________ Most References in Massachusetts 85th All-timeSupport my friend's store: http://www.tabletoparena.com
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joz Banned
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posted July 23, 2011 02:49 PM

quote: Originally posted by Havoc Demon: Let's see what the other legends are before it gets dismissed. At least there aren't many more Alara blocks legends to force feed into this.
Theres... 15 total.http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?type=+[legendary]+[creature]||subtype=+[legendary]+[creature]&format=[%22Shards%20of%20Alara%20Block%22] So...minus Teferi...and one (probably) P3K...that leaves... 13 Alara ....so I'm guessing no Raka Mar and no Progenitus. failboat population: us for believing in WOTC.
__________________ Joz - can we ban Leshrac for not fixing the Chrome PM issue?Gunslinga - If I thought it would help, and if I could, I would.
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oneofchaos Member
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posted July 23, 2011 03:17 PM

quote: Originally posted by Havoc Demon: Let's see what the other legends are before it gets dismissed. At least there aren't many more Alara blocks legends to force feed into this.
Please be norin the wary.
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rats60 Member
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posted July 23, 2011 04:08 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by joz: From the looks of it, probaly.So, this summer: From the Fault: Failures next summer: From the Vault: Oh-my-god...-again? after: from the fault: WOTC-headquarters-burned-to-the ground-charred-from-the-vault-edition.
I bet they will soon regret not putting at least one card from the restricted list in future FTV sets. No chase card = No sales.
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Havoc Demon Member
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posted July 23, 2011 04:27 PM

quote: Originally posted by joz:
So...minus Teferi...and one (probably) P3K...that leaves... 13 Alara ....so I'm guessing no Raka Mar and no Progenitus. failboat population: us for believing in WOTC.
Progenitus is in there...
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Uthaedeol Member
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posted July 23, 2011 04:29 PM

quote: Originally posted by rats60: I bet they will soon regret not putting at least one card from the restricted list in future FTV sets. No chase card = No sales.
The print run is extremely limited. They will have no problem selling their entire print run to stores, and if those don't get $100 per set but 'only' MSPR, that's not a problem either for Wizards, or for the stores. __________________ Swamps suck. Mountains rock!
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rats60 Member
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posted July 23, 2011 06:55 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by Uthaedeol: The print run is extremely limited. They will have no problem selling their entire print run to stores, and if those don't get $100 per set but 'only' MSPR, that's not a problem either for Wizards, or for the stores.
The problem that I see is stores not being able to sell them for MSRP and it's going to look bad for WOTC to have this item sitting on shelves and selling below MSRP on Ebay/at events. Next year, they may not be able to sell their print run, like with some dual decks, fire & lightning, ect.
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thror Member
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posted July 23, 2011 07:08 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by rats60: The problem that I see is stores not being able to sell them for MSRP and it's going to look bad for WOTC to have this item sitting on shelves and selling below MSRP on Ebay/at events. Next year, they may not be able to sell their print run, like with some dual decks, fire & lightning, ect.
FTV: Dragons was complete garbage and sold out above msrp very easily. This will do just fine too. __________________ "He fights you not because you have wronged him, but because you are there."[16:17] <@BrassMan> what do you need new tech for? [16:18] <@BrassMan> gush is unrestricted [19:01] <nderEvo> you can delete yourself
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Mr.C Member
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posted July 23, 2011 08:05 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by thror: FTV: Dragons was complete garbage and sold out above msrp very easily. This will do just fine too.
It was also a novelty at the time. __________________ #2 in posts from British Columbia!Got any Portuguese Foils? Post on my list or email me at valter.cid@gmail.com !
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shade2k1 Member
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posted July 24, 2011 06:40 AM
  
When FTV: Dragons hit, Thunder Dragon was still a $30 card. Add in Kokusho and you have above the MSRP right there, not to mention the preview Hellkite Overlord.__________________ There is a difference between you and me. We both looked into the abyss. But when it looked back at us...you blinked.
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rats60 Member
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posted July 24, 2011 08:44 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by shade2k1: When FTV: Dragons hit, Thunder Dragon was still a $30 card. Add in Kokusho and you have above the MSRP right there, not to mention the preview Hellkite Overlord.
Add in the Dragon collectors outnumber Legends collectors by about 100 to 1. Angels or Dragons are the only sets that they could get away with this. This set is shaping up to have even less value than the Dragons set with few collectors to sell to.
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Devonin Member
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posted July 24, 2011 09:15 AM
  
I'd pay MSRP for this. I will point and laugh at any shop that tries to overcharge like they did for relics.
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WeedIan Member
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posted July 24, 2011 05:14 PM
  
Pout Pout!There was alot of jank in all of them, and with EDH the way it is this will sell just fine. Anything never foiled before will help it sell and isn't a kiki foil like $35+ right now? I'll likely get 1 set this time __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 10000+ posts 3rd in posts in Ontario 15th in posts on MOTL Top 5 in Refs in Ontario (by people who location posted)
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revenger Member
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posted July 24, 2011 06:40 PM
  
So far, I am not impressed with this FTV. __________________ Your 2008 and 2010 Motl Siskel & Ebert award winner! Need a 3rd party trader? I'm available! [=url]lodak72@yahoo.com[/url]
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I3Iood Member
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posted July 24, 2011 06:46 PM

quote: Originally posted by rats60: The problem that I see is stores not being able to sell them for MSRP and it's going to look bad for WOTC to have this item sitting on shelves and selling below MSRP on Ebay/at events. Next year, they may not be able to sell their print run, like with some dual decks, fire & lightning, ect.
I am almost 100% sure there will be a line at every place in the world to get these at MSRP.
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bstrom213 Banned
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posted July 24, 2011 07:16 PM

quote: Originally posted by revenger: So far, I am not impressed with this FTV.
How can you say that without even knowing the list?
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