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WeedIan
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The thing i like about these flip cards is they force your opponent to play spells sometimes to not let them flip.

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They changed their change to the draft rules for the double faced cards. HERE.

Now, if you draft a double faced card you have to place it on top of your picked cards and can only cover it with your next pick.

I really don't think it was such a huge problem to begin with as I'm usually too busy looking through my pack to see what my opponent is taking. Then again, aside from FNMs (which are supposed to be more casual anyway) you're supposed to keep your eyes on your own stuff.

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quote:
Originally posted by iccarus:
I'm a little shocked the full spoiler is not yet known. I guess people are a little gunshy after the crackdown from the NPH leak.


Seriously, set is out in 2 weeks. How are we supposed to invest and draft correctly if we don't know the set 2 months before it comes out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????

 
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Grimoire of the Dead
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1, {T}, Discard a card: Put a study counter on Grimoire of the Dead.

{T}, Remove three study counters from Grimoire of the Dead and sacrifice it: Put all creature cards in all graveyards onto the battlefield under your control. They are black Zombies in addition to their other colors and types.


Seems abusive...

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quote:
Originally posted by Tom LaPille on September 16, 2011:
This has been the last day of Innistrad preview weeks. Come back this coming Monday, and we'll show you the whole set.

There you go. Pretty excited for this set, looks like a ton of fun to draft and lots of sweet, sweet flavor (Rooftop Storm!).

edit: That Grimoire is sweet, especially if you can work some Proliferate into the picture.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by stab107 on September 18, 2011]

 
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Snapcaster mage looks amazing but do you guys think its worth it to buy them at ~$20 each pre-sale?

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quote:
Originally posted by rockondon:
Snapcaster mage looks amazing but do you guys think its worth it to buy them at ~$20 each pre-sale?



Probably not. It will be expensive, no doubt. But as others have pointed out, it's really hard for a Rare in the days of Mythics to maintain a $10+ price tag.

At worst he goes up a few buck a piece and you're out another $4-$8, but more than likely he comes down to $10-$15 a piece and you save $20-$40 if not more.

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quote:
Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
Grimoire of the Dead
4
Legendary Artifact Mythic Rare
1, {T}, Discard a card: Put a study counter on Grimoire of the Dead.

{T}, Remove three study counters from Grimoire of the Dead and sacrifice it: Put all creature cards in all graveyards onto the battlefield under your control. They are black Zombies in addition to their other colors and types.


Seems abusive...

~MM


I love how the preview thread on MTGS has a ton of people just saying "Just use Liliana, this sucks".

Yeah, really...Good luck with that.

 
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Too bad that madness isn't in this set.

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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
Too bad that madness isn't in this set.


Got two more sets to play with, I'm crossing my fingers

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looks like ancient grudge is getting reprinted.
 
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so the complete official spoiler is here, what ya think?


I WANT 4x Intangible Virtue.

EDIT: smite the monsters is a Super bad reprisal.. =/


[Edited 2 times, lastly by Myy on September 18, 2011]

 
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So we have 15 mythics + Garruk? W00t
 
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So now that the entire spoiler is out, what do you guys think the deck to beat in standard will be? U/W control?

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quote:
Originally posted by rockondon:
So now that the entire spoiler is out, what do you guys think the deck to beat in standard will be? U/W control?


Pod.Dec

 
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Dude, art on Sensory Deprivation is sick. Reminds me of the scene in the matrix where Neo's lips get sealed together.
 
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I'm going to just pretend like I didn't read that a med student thinks it really cool to see some guy get his mouth sewn shut...

This set managed to give me a bunch of cards I want for my cube and EDH decks. I get a 2-power one-drop for black and a 2-power 2-drop for black that doesn't require double black. The G/W put a +1/+1 counter on all my creatures land is fantastic. Bramblecrush *easily* replaces Creeping Mold in my cube, since this also destroys planeswalkers. Bloodgift Demon is just SO good - 5 power for 5 mana and it draws you cards... or inches your opponent that much closer to death.

I can replace another two-drop mana guy with Avacyn's Pilgrim, which will allow me yet another way to play a turn 1 guy, then turn two play Nevermore naming my opponent's Commander.

I want a foil Paraselene, which I am certain will look very cool. I also expect to explain to many people what a paraselene is. (Hint: it's closely related to a parhelion.)

I expect that Birthing Pod, Tempered Steel, and U/X (white or black) control decks will all be good after the rotation, but there will be lots of people starting from scratch and coming up with new decks, too.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by yakusoku on September 20, 2011]

 
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I want to build a All-In-Red deck, prob won't be good but the random chance to turn 1 Inferno Tian just sounds like to much fun..

Turn One:
Mountain
Memnite
Infernal Plunge
Geosurge
Inferno Titan
2 Cards left in hand, with two mana floating, one that has to be spent on artifact or creature.

or you can red praetor + three drop or double oxid ridge, etc...

Looks janky as hell, but fun when you randomly go turn one/to take 10+

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quote:
Originally posted by daner:
Pod.Dec

Agreed. The only question now is which version has the best tools available.

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quote:
Originally posted by iccarus:
Agreed. The only question now is which version has the best tools available.


4x birds of paradise
4x viridian emissary
2x spellskite
3x phantasmal image
1x viridian corrupter
3x blade splicer
2x skaab ruinator
2x solemn simulacrum
1x phyrexian metamorph
2x acidic slime
1x archon of justice
2x sun titan
1x wurmcoil engine
1x elesh norn

4x birthing pod
3x dismember

2x island
3x plains
5x forest
4x razorverge thicket
4x sunpetal grove
4x hinterland harbor
1x glacial fortress

its what I'm testing. The ruinators have been decent, but when you draw them they do get stuck for a while. The list seems to need the thrun that its missing. Sun titan is a house... got 20 power for 6 mana off of having 2 clones in my yard. Biggest issue is that the draws aren't very smooth so the deck can't win consistently as is. I'm considering trying out ponders even though old pod decks didn't run them. Also maybe the new looter guy? Not sure... work in progress.

 
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There's a curious link at the bottom of the Innistrad Card Image Gallery titled "Reika." If you click it, it reveals the following:

quote:
Originally posted by Reika:
I have taken to wandering the cathedral grounds at night. The other students gather in the Buttery, but they do not like me. I wish Raben was here, but in the end he did not seem to like me either.

Tonight I will investigate the ash garden.

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The Twitter feed has a bunch of links to a blog with somewhat cryptic journal entries. Does anyone know what this is about? Could it possibly refer to some sort of bonus card not on the spoiler?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Sliver King:
There's a curious link at the bottom of the Innistrad Card Image Gallery titled "Reika." If you click it, it reveals the following:

The Twitter feed has a bunch of links to a blog with somewhat cryptic journal entries. Does anyone know what this is about? Could it possibly refer to some sort of bonus card not on the spoiler?


That same twitter feed was on the cards they gave out at The PAX party. Then the only tweets were links to the fuzzy YouTube videos earlier. Think it's a viral marketing twitter.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by rockondon:
So now that the entire spoiler is out, what do you guys think the deck to beat in standard will be?

quote:
Originally posted by daner:
Pod.Dec

I started making a pod deck and I'm tinkering around with innistrad proxies to see how it runs. But a friend of mine is making tempered steel and that looks insanely fast. Even if I put creeping corrosions in my sideboard I'm still worried his deck will tear right through me. How do you think pod will do against tempered steel?

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quote:
Originally posted by rockondon:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by rockondon:
So now that the entire spoiler is out, what do you guys think the deck to beat in standard will be?

quote:
Originally posted by daner:
Pod.Dec

I started making a pod deck and I'm tinkering around with innistrad proxies to see how it runs. But a friend of mine is making tempered steel and that looks insanely fast. Even if I put creeping corrosions in my sideboard I'm still worried his deck will tear right through me. How do you think pod will do against tempered steel?


[/QUOTE]

Just play 3-4 maindeck Naturalize. Let's see, it stops Swords and equipments, artifacts and Tempered Steel, other Pods, that new enchantment that stop activated abilities of artifacts.

 
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