i know what vesuva is worth now....but givenits popularity, does anything think it will be banned?

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Originally posted by Ryoka:
hi all,

i know what vesuva is worth now....but givenits popularity, does anything think it will be banned?

before u rip into me, i recall few months ago when people were saying "jace 2.0 will not be banned, ESPECIALLY since its rotating out in 4 months". then guess what, they banned him.

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+ Rite of Flame
- Chrome Mox

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Originally posted by gcowhsu:
They don't ban popular cards they ban dominant cards.

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Originally posted by Cyno:
with Vesuva's win% at PT philly I highly doubt it.

But, it was the 1st event so who knows what happens. it's more likely that some cards will come off the list though.

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You have to look at more than just how one deck does to evaluate a card's position in the meta. The presence of Cloudpost/Vesuva meant there was a deck in the format that was almost guaranteed to land a game-winner turn 4 or 5. Because of this, it wasn't feasible to play a deck that plans on playing the long game and grinding someone out, like Junk.

It was because of Cloudpost and Vesuva that everyone at the PT worked on building a combo deck that could win before 12post drops Emrakul, and lead to heavy-combo meta. Without those cards, you could play something like Junk or control which would in turn make combo a worse choice.

Will they ban
right of flame no
Vesuva no

Blood moon maybe

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Originally posted by Malicious:
wtf. since when did motl turn people into morons who ask <snip> questions.

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Since when did MOTL allow people to make replies like yours? Username fits the comment, I suppose.

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Everyone is explaining/justifying why jace was banned. I KNOW why he was banned, ie, being 32 copies in most top 8's. being too dominant...etc.

Everyone seems like an expert in hind sight. Everyone has 20/20 vision in hind sight. Funny how NO ONE opened a thread in the middle of May or June with the title "I think Jace will get banned.".

So lets not talk in hind sight. My question is asking whether Vesuva has the POTENTIAL to be banned. The reason why I'm asking is because I'd like to stock up but dont want to buy a potential risk.

Remember, as good as Jace was, he wasnt banned until almost rotation. ie, it took us 2 yrs to realise how powerful he was. Similarly, can we foresee Vesuva being busted in 2 yrs time?

(obv no1 knows for sure, I'm merely asking for opinions)

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Originally posted by bawitheba:
In my opinion it will not be banned. Name the last land that has been banned. ( LOA). It's more likely they will ban emerakul than vesuva.

This is just my opinion I could be wrong.

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Valakut

Thats from wizards themselves btw (not quoted but the general reasoning)

Since Vevusuva is no where close to doing this right now is why I doubt its going to be banned, just awesomely strong.

Cheers;

A good point was brought up by choco man....who here honestly thought valakut woulda been banned in a million years? Not me. Is valakut good? Yep. But is it Jace/Stoneforge good? No. But they still banned it.

This deck is just another strong mid-range combo (mid-range=wins turns 4-5 undisrupted), but it will take a while to determine if the deck is problematic. If they even touch any element of 12-post, they would have to ban many other cards in the process to eliminate/most if not all mid range combo.

Maybe they'll let people use the information from Philly as well as Innistrad to make their adjustments and see how things look after Worlds to make changes.

Vesuva - won't get banned
Rite of Flame - won't get banned
Blood Moon - won't get banned
Cloudpost- won't get banned