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yakusoku Member	posted December 31, 2011 08:57 PM quote: Originally posted by rockondon: ^ well said yakusoku. I think I'll change my build accordingly. My original idea was to make my deck like the one I linked to, I suppose I should I do that. Do you maindeck a thrun the last troll? I don't do that. I have two in the sideboard, however. I think it's highly meta-dependent, though. I did some playtesting with a friend of mine for about an hour versus a blue deck and Thrun was absolutely gold when I drew the one copy. However, against almost everything else, I was really underwhelmed and last Friday, I replaced it with another Acidic Slime, which was much more valuable - it destroyed an Angelic Destiny played turn 3 against me (I took one attack, then searched for it with GSZ). If you expect lots of blue, Thrun is great, as it dodges counters and Vapor Snag. It doesn't die to burn or black removal, but against white, it doesn't look so good across from Mirran Crusader, and against green, a Titan makes Thrun look puny. [Edited 1 times, lastly by yakusoku on December 31, 2011]
MeddlingMage Member	posted January 01, 2012 06:28 PM quote: Originally posted by yakusoku: I've been playing R/G ramp for quite awhile now (last Friday I just went 3-1, only losing to the guy who went 4-0) and 8 titans has not been a problem at all. Care to share your list Yak? ~MM __________________ I am MeddlingMage...YOUR Motl Survivor 11 Champion, 2007 Captain N award winner, 2010 Marlboro award winner, and 2011 Champion Tournament Pick'em MOTL NCAA Bracket Challenge winner! CM Punk "OMG Kevin Nash WTF, thought he was dead, LOL" New keeper of the Logout button
yakusoku Member	posted January 01, 2012 08:50 PM 4 Galvanic Blast 3 Slagstorm 4 Rampant Growth 4 Sphere of the Suns 4 Green Sun's Zenith 1 Birds of Paradise 4 Solemn Simulacrum 2 Acidic Slime 4 Inferno Titan 4 Primeval Titan 4 Rootbound Crag 4 Copperline Gorge 4 Inkmoth Nexus 3 Kessig Wolf Run 5 Forest 6 Mountain The sideboard constantly changes, but this week I played with 4 Autumn's Veil, 2 Thrun, 1 Viridian Corrupter, 2 Acidic Slime, 2 Sword of Feast and Famine, 1 Slagstorm, 3 Ancient Grudge
MeddlingMage Member	posted January 10, 2012 02:46 PM What kind of decks are giving people problems? ~MM __________________ I am MeddlingMage...YOUR Motl Survivor 11 Champion, 2007 Captain N award winner, 2010 Marlboro award winner, and 2011 Champion Tournament Pick'em MOTL NCAA Bracket Challenge winner! CM Punk "OMG Kevin Nash WTF, thought he was dead, LOL" New keeper of the Logout button
MeddlingMage Member	posted January 12, 2012 04:52 PM This is what I am going to play if I go to FNM tomorrow night. 4x Snapcaster Mage 1x Grave Titan 1x Wurmcoil Engine 2x Sun Titan 3x Phantasmal Image 1x Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite 4x Forbidden Alchemy 3x Think Twice 3x Mana Leak 3x Unburial Rites 2x Day of Judgment 2x Doom Blade 3x Oblivion Ring 2x Liliana of the Veil 4x Drowned Catcaombs 4x Isolated Chapel 4x Glacial Fortress 1x Ghost Quarter 6x Plains 4x Island 3x Swamp SB is geared for my meta (last I knew, lol) ~MM __________________ I am MeddlingMage...YOUR Motl Survivor 11 Champion, 2007 Captain N award winner, 2010 Marlboro award winner, and 2011 Champion Tournament Pick'em MOTL NCAA Bracket Challenge winner! CM Punk "OMG Kevin Nash WTF, thought he was dead, LOL" New keeper of the Logout button
ryan2754 Member	posted January 12, 2012 05:53 PM I play Green White Humans In no way is it Tier 1, but it gives me something to play every weekend for, say the next year, and it cost roughly $20 dollars...so I'm good. I 80-20 RDW, 20-80 control (better with UW, worse with others), 60-40 Illusions, 40-60 tokens, 10-90 Wolf Run (my worse matchup - get them to under 5 life and can't seal the deal), and beat most other decks, including the occasional burning vengeance. you can tell by those above %ages that I usually go 3-2 every week. Went 2-3 twice, and 4-1 once. __________________ -Schmitty 5th in Refs [227] in OH-IO (5 behind helper monkey) 2nd in Posts [6555] in OH-IO (only 1600 behind Val) “If Brad Stevens is the future of coaching in college basketball, the sport is in a good place.” - Rick Pitino [Edited 1 times, lastly by ryan2754 on January 12, 2012]
Timmyhill Member	posted January 12, 2012 06:39 PM I've been trying this on mtgo and it works ok but cards like Geist of Saint Traft are hard to deal with. 8x Forest 5x Island 4x Glacial Fortress 2x Sulfur Falls 2x Mountain 1x Darkslick Shores 4x Splinterfright 4x Merfolk Looter 4x Kuldotha Phoenix 4x Birds of Paradise 4x Armored Skaab 4x Shriekhorn 4x Mulch 4x Forbidden Alchemy 2x Master's Call 2x Gnaw to the Bone 2x Bonehoard
wayne Member	posted January 12, 2012 07:10 PM quote: Originally posted by Timmyhill: I've been trying this on mtgo and it works ok but cards like Geist of Saint Traft are hard to deal with. 8x Forest 5x Island 4x Glacial Fortress 2x Sulfur Falls 2x Mountain 1x Darkslick Shores 4x Splinterfright 4x Merfolk Looter 4x Kuldotha Phoenix 4x Birds of Paradise 4x Armored Skaab 4x Shriekhorn 4x Mulch 4x Forbidden Alchemy 2x Master's Call 2x Gnaw to the Bone 2x Bonehoard Four red lands and four of a RRR creature?
MeddlingMage Member	posted January 12, 2012 07:35 PM Just heard from a buddy that Illusions has been big lately. Should I put 4x Gutshots in my SB of my above deck? ~MM __________________ I am MeddlingMage...YOUR Motl Survivor 11 Champion, 2007 Captain N award winner, 2010 Marlboro award winner, and 2011 Champion Tournament Pick'em MOTL NCAA Bracket Challenge winner! CM Punk "OMG Kevin Nash WTF, thought he was dead, LOL" New keeper of the Logout button
JoshSherman Member	posted January 12, 2012 08:30 PM quote: Originally posted by yakusoku: 4 Galvanic Blast 3 Slagstorm 4 Rampant Growth 4 Sphere of the Suns 4 Green Sun's Zenith 1 Birds of Paradise 4 Solemn Simulacrum 2 Acidic Slime 4 Inferno Titan 4 Primeval Titan 4 Rootbound Crag 4 Copperline Gorge 4 Inkmoth Nexus 3 Kessig Wolf Run 5 Forest 6 Mountain The sideboard constantly changes, but this week I played with 4 Autumn's Veil, 2 Thrun, 1 Viridian Corrupter, 2 Acidic Slime, 2 Sword of Feast and Famine, 1 Slagstorm, 3 Ancient Grudge I played this deck minus a Sword (ran Wurmcoil instead, never used it) in the side last Friday night and went 3-1. I lost to UW humans 1-2 in round one, then didn't drop another game to come in 3rd on tie breakers, since there were 3 3-1s. I was impressed with myself, and the deck was fun to play. I don't have a lot of time to worry about stuff like metagame and playtesting, and it showed when Angelic Destiny beat my ass, but that's ok. __________________ My LJLetter Bombs!FacebookLogout- I had it second!*CKGB
choco man Member	posted January 12, 2012 10:03 PM quote: Originally posted by MeddlingMage: Just heard from a buddy that Illusions has been big lately. Should I put 4x Gutshots in my SB of my above deck? ~MM No, they will not help your specific deck beat illusions. If you want to beat Illusions with an Esper deck, have a plan to resolve Day of Judgment and use Timely Reinforcements. You also don't play enough spells to really be using all 4 Snapcaster Mages.
Timmyhill Member	posted January 13, 2012 03:20 AM The red mana sources are in the deck just on the off chance I have to hard cast the Phoenix, but the real way I cast it is to dump it in the graveyard, get metal craft, then cast it for 4 colorless. Theres also the 4 BoP that help smooth out any lack of not getting the right lands. The deck takes a beating in the early turns but then once a splinterfright or two are in play, you flash back a gnaw to the bone which can be any wheres from 8-24 and it becomes a whole new game largely in your favor. It just needs a way to be more consistent.
MeddlingMage Member	posted March 27, 2012 12:55 PM So whats popular now? I haven't played any type 2 recently (competitively) and still play Solar Flare casually. What are we playing and please, as usual, post a deck list ~MM __________________ I am MeddlingMage...YOUR Motl Survivor 11 Champion, 2007 Captain N award winner, 2010 Marlboro award winner, and 2011 Champion Tournament Pick'em MOTL NCAA Bracket Challenge winner! CM Punk "OMG Kevin Nash WTF, thought he was dead, LOL" New keeper of the Logout button [Edited 1 times, lastly by MeddlingMage on March 27, 2012]
yakusoku Member	posted March 27, 2012 01:19 PM I recently played in a Standard Championship tourney at Superstars (brick and mortar store for ChannelFireball). I got second place (and $110 in store credit). There was a U/B control deck that took first, a U/B Zombies deck that made it to the semi-finals, a U/W Delver/Aggro deck that made top 8, a U/B Infect deck, and at least three R/G Ramp decks. I don't remember what the last deck was. I'd recommend that you look at the daily events on MTGO to see what's doing well - go to the right side for Event Coverage and see the decks that do well in daily events and premier events. U/W Humans, U/W Delver, Ramp, U/B Zombies, and U/B Control seem to be among the best decks in the format right now. Although, it's certainly possible to do well with other decks. I've been running this (or slight variations of this): 1 Birds of Paradise 3 Solemn Simulacrum 4 Huntmaster of the Fells 1 Acidic Slime 4 Primeval Titan 2 Green Sun's Zenith 4 Galvanic Blast 4 Slagstorm 4 Sphere of the Suns 4 Rampant Growth 3 Beast Within 4 Inkmoth Nexus 4 Copperline Gorge 4 Rootbound Crag 2 Kessig Wolf Run 7 Forest 5 Mountain
skizzikmonger Member	posted March 27, 2012 05:07 PM quote: Originally posted by MeddlingMage: So whats popular now? I haven't played any type 2 recently (competitively) and still play Solar Flare casually. What are we playing and please, as usual, post a deck list ~MM Here is what's showing up and winning at SCG opens since DKA was released. I'm currently working on a RUG Delver with burn (RSZ for undying), and Huntmaster. Won't be able to play it for the first time until Friday though. Land-22 4 Copperline Gorge 4 Sulfur Falls 4 Hinterland Harbor 1 Kessig Wolf Run 2 Evolving Wilds 1 Forest 1 Mountain 5 Island Creatures-15 4 Delver of Secrets 4 Snapcaster Mage 3 Phantasmal Image 4 Huntmaster of the Fells Spells-23 4 Mana Leak 4 Ponder 4 Gitaxian Probe 1 Negate 1 Dismember 1 Ancient Grudge 2 Red Sun's Zenith 3 Galvanic Blast 3 Runechanter's Pike Sideboard 3 Corosive Gale 3 Surgical Extraction 2 Batterskull 1 Beast Within 2 Flashfreeze 2 Negate 1 Ancient Grudge 1 Dismember [Edited 1 times, lastly by skizzikmonger on March 27, 2012]
caquaa Member	posted March 28, 2012 12:11 AM this is what I've been playing for the past month at least in some form or another: 4 delver 4 snapcaster 4 huntmaster 2 garruk relentless 2 inferno titan 4 ponder 4 devil's play 2 shock 2 galv blast 4 mana leak 4 vapor snag 4 hinterland harbor 4 copperling gorge 4 sulfur falls 2 rootbound craig 6 island 4 mountain its somewhat similar to what you've listed. Sideboard has some whip flares, slag storms, ancient grudges, dissipates, and various other random cards. It seems to hold its own decently well. It finishes games out of no where w/ devil's play fairly often. Never be afraid to use them early.
Lord Crovax Member	posted March 28, 2012 06:47 AM I'm enjoying a Jund ramp build, looks like jank, but plays out very well, only loses I get with it are me not mulligan well, otherwise, I do well. Also seems to have solid match ups versus the various top decks... __________________ I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
JoshSherman Member	posted March 28, 2012 07:44 AM quote: Originally posted by Lord Crovax: I'm enjoying a Jund ramp build, looks like jank, but plays out very well, only loses I get with it are me not mulligan well, otherwise, I do well. Also seems to have solid match ups versus the various top decks... list? __________________ My LJLetter Bombs!FacebookLogout- I had it second!*CKGB
Lord Crovax Member	posted March 28, 2012 07:54 AM 3x Liliana of the Veil 2x Garruk Relentless 3x Birds of Paradise 3x Rampant Growth 3x Strangleroot Geist 1x Perilous Myr 2x Grave Titan 1x Primeval Titan 1x Inferno Titan 1x Thrun, the Last Troll 1x Olivia Voldaren 1x Batterskull 1x Huntmaster of the Fells 1x Curse of Death's Hold 1x Red Sun's Zenith 1x Black Sun's Zenith 2x Galvanic Blast 2x Go for the Throat 2x Dismember 1x Doom Blade 2x Whipeflare 2x Copperline Gorge 2x Blackcleave Cliffs 4x Swamp 3x Forest 1x Mountain 4x Evolving Wilds 3x Kessig Wolf Run 3x Inkmoth Nexus 1x Rootbound Crag 1x Dragonskull Summit 1x Woodland Cemetery SB is still in works, this is how it stands at this moment. 4x Ratchet Bomb 3x Nihil Spellbomb 2x Surgical Extraction 2x Ancient Grudge 1x Go for the Throat 1x Galvanic Blast 1x Thrun, the Last Troll 1x Dismember Like I said, list looks janky, and lose....but in testing it works very well, mana is hardly ever a issue, unless it's me getting not enough land or to much, never color screw. So...there it is.. __________________ I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
caquaa Member	posted March 29, 2012 01:46 AM quote: Originally posted by Lord Crovax: Like I said, list looks janky, and lose....but in testing it works very well it looks like it could easily work better tho. All the 1-3 of's seem to mean its not tuned enough yet. Sometimes a bunch of good cards can win, but the right good cards would let you win more easily.
Lord Crovax Member	posted March 29, 2012 09:56 AM quote: Originally posted by caquaa: it looks like it could easily work better tho. All the 1-3 of's seem to mean its not tuned enough yet. Sometimes a bunch of good cards can win, but the right good cards would let you win more easily. Try tuning it, just seems the 1-2 of's actually work, 3 of's are generally things I want to draw, but don't want 4 of... Shrugs Would love to here suggestion, specially if anyone sleeves it up.....also thinking it might be my local meta that is distorting my view. __________________ I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
MeddlingMage Member	posted October 14, 2012 09:23 AM Now with RtR legal, and the current standard changing, what are we playing now? I have a green/white populate deck that, currently, looks like this: 2x Grove of the Guardian 2x Sunpetal Grove 3x Temple Garden 7x Forest 8x Plains 4x Dryad Militants 4x Vitu-Ghazi Guildmage 2x Restoration Angel 2x Loxodon Smiter (want 4 in here) 2x Thragtusk 1x Sigarda, Host of the Herons 1x Armada Wurm 4x Rancor 4x Call of the Conclave 3x Selesnya Charm 2x Sundering Growth 4x Druid's Deliverance (Maybe with Rootborn Defense instead?) 4x Oblivion Rings 2x Growing Ranks What are you guys playing now? ~MM __________________ I am MeddlingMage...YOUR Motl Survivor 11 Champion, 2007 Captain N award winner, 2010 Marlboro award winner, and 2011 Champion Tournament Pick'em MOTL NCAA Bracket Challenge winner! CM Punk "OMG Kevin Nash WTF, thought he was dead, LOL" New keeper of the Logout button [Edited 1 times, lastly by MeddlingMage on October 18, 2012]
dfitzg88 Member	posted October 14, 2012 10:33 AM quote: Originally posted by MeddlingMage: What are you guys playing now? ~MM American Miracles all the way. It's a fun deck in my opinion because it doesn't have a terribly good advantage in the format, and when it wins, people can claim you just topdecked all of your answers, making them feel like they lost to luck. Meanwhile, I'm still holding a planeswalker, sweeper, and o-ring or something after they stone-cold lose. The downside is the games often go too long. I'd love to have a finisher but it just doesn't fit in the 60.
oneofchaos Member	posted October 14, 2012 11:10 AM quote: Originally posted by dfitzg88: American Miracles all the way. It's a fun deck in my opinion because it doesn't have a terribly good advantage in the format, and when it wins, people can claim you just topdecked all of your answers, making them feel like they lost to luck. Meanwhile, I'm still holding a planeswalker, sweeper, and o-ring or something after they stone-cold lose. The downside is the games often go too long. I'd love to have a finisher but it just doesn't fit in the 60. I've been testing playing Miracles I just feel dirty playing it. Whoops topdecked turn 4 terminus, I'm a better player than you, yada yada yada.
Ceyx69 Member	posted October 18, 2012 11:41 PM quote: Originally posted by dfitzg88: The downside is the games often go too long. I'd love to have a finisher but it just doesn't fit in the 60. 1x Chandra?

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