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Topic: People that aren't worth dealing with.
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revenger Member
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posted December 25, 2011 06:16 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by OGB: also getting tired of seeing the :Wants Xx duals Xx fetches Xx imperial seal Xx 1996 world champion
You forgot X Shocklands. quote: Originally posted by PortlisX: There are a LOT of poor trading/buying practices on this site, all of which are very frustrating. (such as, "I can take X and X, email me the total") never bother to respond to my emails after I email them. They flat out ignore the email completely. It very much makes me wonder why they are wasting their time posting in the first place.
This goes as well for Sellers of cards. I've posted to purchase cards, and emailed them. and never heard a word from em. WHY post a sales list if you never hear back from them on wanting to purchase something? sHEESH. I litterally had to go to Ebay for some of my cards I want. ansd it sucks,. __________________ Your 2008 and 2010 Motl Siskel & Ebert award winner! Vote for Revenger! Vote for the 2011 Motl awards! Big Bird, Marlboro, Homer Simpson, Blank 3(New TV Show), Blank 5 (Most likely to go on a murdereous rampage), Siskel & Ebert. Cast your vote for Revenger!
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undersow Member
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posted December 25, 2011 06:33 PM
  
Would people who have point systems entirely in their favor fall into this category? I usually just click the back button.
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MeddlingMage Member
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posted December 25, 2011 07:46 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by revenger: You forgot X Shocklands.This goes as well for Sellers of cards. I've posted to purchase cards, and emailed them. and never heard a word from em. WHY post a sales list if you never hear back from them on wanting to purchase something? sHEESH. I litterally had to go to Ebay for some of my cards I want. ansd it sucks,.
I like these. Wants: Xx Tundra Xx Seas Xx Bayou Xx Force of Will Xx Mana Drain Xx Another big card Xx Another big card Haves: Xx Fog Xx Unsummon Xx Duress Xx Another small card Xx A medium card (but only available if duals involved) ~MM __________________ I am MeddlingMage...YOUR Motl Survivor 11 Champion, 2007 Captain N award winner, 2010 Marlboro award winner, and 2011 Champion Tournament Pick'em MOTL NCAA Bracket Challenge winner!CM Punk "OMG Kevin Nash WTF, thought he was dead, LOL" New keeper of the Logout button
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Vegas10 Member
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posted December 25, 2011 10:00 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by MeddlingMage: I like these.Wants: Xx Tundra Xx Seas Xx Bayou Xx Force of Will Xx Mana Drain Xx Another big card Xx Another big card Haves: Xx Fog Xx Unsummon Xx Duress Xx Another small card Xx A medium card (but only available if duals involved) ~MM
Completley agree and always love the I won't trade down but will always trade up, well then why would I want to trade down for you if you won't do the same.
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Loathing Member
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posted December 25, 2011 10:07 PM

quote: Originally posted by Vegas10: Completley agree and always love the I won't trade down but will always trade up, well then why would I want to trade down for you if you won't do the same.
Even worse are the people with 0 refs stating "You will send first, no exceptions." As I'm hitting the back button I just think "No I won't, because we won't be trading." I remember a while ago a seller with 0-3 references had a rule stating that not only did you have to pay first (no exceptions!), you also had to pay via PayPal gift (no exceptions!). And then he went on to state that this way everybody was protected!
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flophaus Member
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posted December 26, 2011 12:10 AM

quote: Originally posted by Loathing: Even worse are the people with 0 refs stating "You will send first, no exceptions." As I'm hitting the back button I just think "No I won't, because we won't be trading." I remember a while ago a seller with 0-3 references had a rule stating that not only did you have to pay first (no exceptions!), you also had to pay via PayPal gift (no exceptions!). And then he went on to state that this way everybody was protected!
seems legit =)?
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MTDetermine Member
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posted December 26, 2011 12:53 AM

quote: Originally posted by flophaus: seems legit =)?
For the record, personal payment are 100% non-claimable. For "payment for goods and services", you can try to claim a refund, but paypal will only refund you what is in the seller's account. So if his account has $0.02 and you are claiming for $1000, you are out of pocket by $999.98. I hate trading. Got too much duff offers. Much easier to use cash to buy stuff.
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MAB_Rapper Member
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posted December 26, 2011 04:46 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by caquaa: yah, I was considering selling him some and watched his prices drop. Seems this whole thread is about him, lol.
And he just did it again on his buy list. He just knocked a penny off his buy prices for uncommons and rares. What a piece of scum. __________________ MOTL's Most Likely to Play in the Pro Tour - 2007, 2008, and 2009 (My Nationals) The Official Tower Magic Facebook Page
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mulder Member
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posted December 26, 2011 09:14 AM

Aren't you exaggerating a little bit? I'm sure the guy was just trying what we all try to do, which is to haggle. I don't really see the problem. He offered a lower price, you can simply refuse if you're not interested, no harm done.
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MAB_Rapper Member
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posted December 26, 2011 10:04 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by mulder: Aren't you exaggerating a little bit? I'm sure the guy was just trying what we all try to do, which is to haggle. I don't really see the problem. He offered a lower price, you can simply refuse if you're not interested, no harm done.
True, but it is a scummy move to post a buy price and then change your price without responding to those who posted. __________________ MOTL's Most Likely to Play in the Pro Tour - 2007, 2008, and 2009 (My Nationals) The Official Tower Magic Facebook Page
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Vegas10 Member
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posted December 26, 2011 10:13 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by MAB_Rapper: True, but it is a scummy move to post a buy price and then change your price without responding to those who posted.
or to respnd after you change your buy price and try to act like your new lower one was always the price
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coolio Member
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posted December 26, 2011 05:31 PM

http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/240980.html srsly? wants @ buyside numbers, haves at above scg retail.. lolz© __________________ Since it is obviously inconceivable that all religions can be right, the most reasonable conclusion is that they are all wrong. -Christopher HitchensReligion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. -Seneca the Younger
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AGO Member
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posted December 26, 2011 05:49 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by coolio: http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/240980.html srsly? wants @ buyside numbers, haves at above scg retail.. lolz©
Thats all I see with points list. What get me is the list is already in there favor but they stil won't trade down. I think Slinga was the only person I have seen who would do a trade if the points matched up. Also I think I am going to scream if I see another list with decked cards. Ran across this one today and tried to complete a trade but got shot down because he over values his Thrun.
STUFF THAT IS DECKED SECTION:
This is my section of good stuff that is decked. For me to trade the legacy stuff, you should be offering stuff like Dual Lands, Moat, and my other out of print wants. I won't trade this stuff down, unless it's wayyyy in my favor. Some of it isn't really expensive but trading out of decks is a pain since I have to replace it. 1 Taiga 1 Savannah 1 Italian Karakas 2 Grindstone 4 Enlightened Tutor (3 MI, 1 6th) 3 Orim's Chant 4 Argothian Enchantress 2 Serra's Sanctum 2 Replenish (1 japanese) 3 Elspeth Tirel (1 japanese) 3 Hero of Bladehold (2 foil promo,1 italian) 1 Thrun, The Last Troll (japanese) 1 Garruk Relentless 4 Swords to Plowshares 2 Wrath of God
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Lord Crovax Member
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posted December 26, 2011 05:53 PM

I hate decked cards to, if it isn't for trade DON"T bloody list it, I don't care if your willing to trade it for the right price, cause unless that price is it's current value, it's a no go.As for Point based lists I love and hate them, I like the idea of them, cause lets face it I'm REALLY tired of my 15 uncommons for your dual offers when said uncommons are NOT FoW level cards. but on the flipside, most Point Based lists suck, and I have yet to find a good way to make one myself, despite a few attempts. __________________ I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
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coolio Member
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posted December 26, 2011 06:58 PM

quote: Originally posted by AGO: Thats all I see with points list. What get me is the list is already in there favor but they stil won't trade down. I think Slinga was the only person I have seen who would do a trade if the points matched up.
not gonna lie, i thought about posting a list, and it would be points based.. and in my favor.. but if the points tally up, trading down isnt an issue.. but I dont really have a lot of wants i cant already get, or otherwise have a bunch of copies of already.. so.. shrug.. might give it a test and see where it goes © __________________ Since it is obviously inconceivable that all religions can be right, the most reasonable conclusion is that they are all wrong. -Christopher HitchensReligion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. -Seneca the Younger
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Goaswerfraiejen Member
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posted December 26, 2011 07:07 PM

quote: Originally posted by AGO: Thats all I see with points list. What get me is the list is already in there favor but they stil won't trade down. I think Slinga was the only person I have seen who would do a trade if the points matched up.
FWIW hooskdaddy has a list with points, and was perfectly happy to trade his Savannahs down to me. Didn't matter what for, so long as the points added up. __________________ "I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each. I do not think they will sing to me." -T.S. EliotRIP Ari Legacy UGB River Rock primer. PM comments/questions. Info on grad school in Phil.
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choco man Member
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posted December 27, 2011 01:23 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by coolio: http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/240980.html srsly? wants @ buyside numbers, haves at above scg retail.. lolz©
I sent him a my 3 snapcaster for 1 wasteland offer. It wasn't good enough for him and he sent me back a counter-offer as if I was serious. Oh, well...I wasn't being serious, but his reply was awesome. quote: Originally posted by Lord Crovax: I hate decked cards to, if it isn't for trade DON"T bloody list it, I don't care if your willing to trade it for the right price, cause unless that price is it's current value, it's a no go.As for Point based lists I love and hate them, I like the idea of them, cause lets face it I'm REALLY tired of my 15 uncommons for your dual offers when said uncommons are NOT FoW level cards. but on the flipside, most Point Based lists suck, and I have yet to find a good way to make one myself, despite a few attempts.
Whenever I see a "decked" section, I don't even bother with any of the other cards on that user's list. Because that way I know where his only good cards are. It's a nice shortcut  Also don't know why "temporary" sales and price cuts last for over a month? Is -$1 off a $60+ card a price cut? Is above eBay priced to move?
[Edited 1 times, lastly by choco man on December 27, 2011]
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MAB_Rapper Member
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posted December 27, 2011 05:56 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by choco man: I sent him a my 3 snapcaster for 1 wasteland offer. It wasn't good enough for him and he sent me back a counter-offer as if I was serious. Oh, well...I wasn't being serious, but his reply was awesome.
Oh, this I have got to see. __________________ MOTL's Most Likely to Play in the Pro Tour - 2007, 2008, and 2009 (My Nationals) The Official Tower Magic Facebook Page
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Hooskdaddy Member
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posted December 27, 2011 06:04 AM

quote: Originally posted by Goaswerfraiejen: FWIW hooskdaddy has a list with points, and was perfectly happy to trade his Savannahs down to me. Didn't matter what for, so long as the points added up.
Yeah i use a list with points because haggling with people over price is just way too time consuming. It makes it easier for me. I generally am trading down high end legacy and or vintage cards/foils so yes there is a slight premium on my end but I try to be fair because i would much rather have tons of repeat business than score on one transaction.
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wayne Member
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posted December 27, 2011 06:50 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by MAB_Rapper: Oh, this I have got to see.
So do I. What was his counter? 4 snapcasters?
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Lord Crovax Member
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posted December 27, 2011 09:46 AM

quote: Originally posted by MAB_Rapper: Oh, this I have got to see.
Yea, I kinda want to see this two, I mean 3 Snapcasters is already more then a wasteland, and guy wanted more? Seriously? __________________ I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
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rats60 Member
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posted December 27, 2011 11:19 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by Lord Crovax: Yea, I kinda want to see this two, I mean 3 Snapcasters is already more then a wasteland, and guy wanted more? Seriously?
3 Snapcasters are worth 2 Wastelands.
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undersow Member
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posted December 27, 2011 01:50 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by rats60: 3 Snapcasters are worth 2 Wastelands.
Yes, and also, snapcaster also falls into the category of being GOOD in all formats. If he drops ever it will not be by much and in a few years i see snap being worth just as much if not more than he is now, unless he is banned.
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choco man Member
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posted December 27, 2011 06:13 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by MAB_Rapper: Oh, this I have got to see.
I posted it in the last "post for mtg discussion thread #64". Essentially, he said that: "This is a strange time in legacy. I can see delver and him getting the axe in Legacy soon. Anyways, I only play SCM in my casual deck. So I'll have to think about it." A week later, he posted that instead of 3 SCM, he wants 2 SCM and 1 Liliana otV just in case SCM gets banned in Legacy and Modern. Anyways, here's matt42's pathetic list and pts system: http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/240980.html
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ryan2754 Member
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posted December 27, 2011 08:09 PM
  
Almost every single one of my cards is Decked, at least the good ones. I still list them on my list, because there is ALWAYS another card able to fill its spot. Then again, that's the joy with EDH.__________________ -Schmitty 5th in Refs [227] in OH-IO (5 behind helper monkey) 2nd in Posts [6502] in OH-IO (only 1600 behind Val) “If Brad Stevens is the future of coaching in college basketball, the sport is in a good place.” - Rick Pitino
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