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Originally posted by hilikuS:
I still think it's funny how all sorts of planeswalkers that had no business being super expensive got that way because nobody wanted to miss "the next Jace", then they ended up missing it anyway. The "next Jace" was Jace.

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Yup, and now people are like, should I buy them at 40.00+ so I can sell them latter at profit....so much fun

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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
Yup, and now people are like, should I buy them at 40.00+ so I can sell them latter at profit....so much fun

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Perfect answers

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Originally posted by ardeay:
Perfect answers

I just pulled a jace, who wants to trade me a wasteland!

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Originally posted by Zeckk:
Would be funnier if bonfire of the damned wasn't worth a wasteland...

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Yea, that got expensive fast.... expect Jace 4.0 to run about the same long run..

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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
Yea, that got expensive fast.... expect Jace 4.0 to run about the same long run..

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With all these cheap fatties around, it will hit 20

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Originally posted by ardeay:
With all these cheap fatties around, it will hit 20

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Bonefire, maybe.

Jace 4.0, nope, don't expect it to ever go below 40 any time soon...

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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
Bonefire, maybe.

Jace 4.0, nope, don't expect it to ever go below 40 any time soon...

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Originally posted by ardeay:
I just traded a jace for two snapcasters at a local store, that felt REAL good

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Why? By current values you lost out by 10-20 bucks, and there is still the potential of Jace going up, not down, or at the very least holding steady.

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Originally posted by Brightcab:
I've seen a couple on ebay end at 35. I passed on one at 35 on sale here on motl this morning because Id rather buy him in a month.This set is going to be drafted and opened like crazy. In 3 months, he WILL be less. Everyone who wants to play blue control in standard has shelled out for these. It's no secret he's good but he's not good enough to keep his current price. Maybe he'll only go down to 30, I think less, but 2 snaps for Jace is not being down 10 bucks. 20? Show me where I can buy 2 snaps for 25 dollars.(Please, noone be a wisenheimer and link to a random ebay auction of 2 snapcaster mages for 25 dollars)

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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
Why? By current values you lost out by 10-20 bucks, and there is still the potential of Jace going up, not down, or at the very least holding steady.

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Originally posted by hilikuS:
I think Snapcasters would be on the up trend if Jace is, no?

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Potentially, but right now Jace is more then Snaps, and 2-1 seems a little short IMHO....

and trading for the long run, seems wrong, considering the long run is like 3-5 years down the road :P

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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
Potentially, but right now Jace is more then Snaps, and 2-1 seems a little short IMHO....

and trading for the long run, seems wrong, considering the long run is like 3-5 years down the road :P

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I wasn't really talking about 3-5 years down the road though. I was thinking that if Jace is up, that means he's seeing lots of play, and that Snapcaster probably goes in the same types of decks that Jace does.

So if Snappys increase half as much as Jace does, you broke even.

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Originally posted by hilikuS:
I wasn't really talking about 3-5 years down the road though. I was thinking that if Jace is up, that means he's seeing lots of play, and that Snapcaster probably goes in the same types of decks that Jace does.

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in standard atm, there really isnt much to bother snapcasting. Sure, they're both blue cards, but that's about it. Snapcaster loves cheap value cards, and again, there just isnt much to snapcaster in jace decks right now.

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Originally posted by thror:
in standard atm, there really isnt much to bother snapcasting. Sure, they're both blue cards, but that's about it. Snapcaster loves cheap value cards, and again, there just isnt much to snapcaster in jace decks right now.

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Myself, mostly a legacy player, jace 4.0 will never replace jace and snapcaster will be good forever. (unless he is banned)

As a casual standard player, I will find new ways to abuse snapcaster for the next year, as will most players.

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Originally posted by ardeay:
Myself, mostly a legacy player, jace 4.0 will never replace jace and snapcaster will be good forever. (unless he is banned)

As a casual standard player, I will find new ways to abuse snapcaster for the next year, as will most players.

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Originally posted by ardeay:

As a casual standard player, I will find new ways to abuse snapcaster for the next year, as will most players.

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Except...you wont. Neither will others, and the off chance you or someone else does...it's probably going to be in a deck w/ Jace.

Just because Jace 4.0 isn't Jace 2.0 doesn't mean it's trash and should be dismissed. It also doesn't mean it's price HAS to fall. Like stated above, it's not banned in modern, and is VERY playable in that format. It will never beat Jace 2.0 in Legacy or Older formats but if it has a place in Modern that means the card will always have a significant value. If it ends up being good in modern don't expect the price to ever drop below $40 while it's in both Standard/Modern. Then when it rotates it will drop to $25-30 and over time build back up like Jace 2.0 did.

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Originally posted by daner:
Except...you wont. Neither will others, and the off chance you or someone else does...it's probably going to be in a deck w/ Jace.

Just because Jace 4.0 isn't Jace 2.0 doesn't mean it's trash and should be dismissed. It also doesn't mean it's price HAS to fall. Like stated above, it's not banned in modern, and is VERY playable in that format. It will never beat Jace 2.0 in Legacy or Older formats but if it has a place in Modern that means the card will always have a significant value. If it ends up being good in modern don't expect the price to ever drop below $40 while it's in both Standard/Modern. Then when it rotates it will drop to $25-30 and over time build back up like Jace 2.0 did.

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Y'all jace crazy

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Originally posted by ardeay:
Y'all jace crazy

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Originally posted by daner:
Denial isn't a river in Africa....

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I believe this is the point where someone states that there is no reasoning with some people.

If they want to think jace 4.0 sucks, won't see play and will be 5 bucks in a few weeks, by all means allow them to live in whatever fantasy world allows such nonsense...

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Originally posted by ardeay:
http://ark42.com/mtg/pricehistory.php?s=Innistrad&c=Liliana+of+the+Veil

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http://ark42.com/mtg/pricehistory.php?s=Return+to+Ravnica&c=Jace%2C+Architect+of+Thought&d=0