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baldr7
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posted October 31, 2012 09:26 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for baldr7 Click Here to Email baldr7 Send a private message to baldr7 Click to send baldr7 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by hilikuS:
If you can always get a premium on Legacy stuff, why not just buy Legacy stuff and trade it for the Standard crap you need at the premium? A bit of work but you get all the things you need at a discount.

You can always find the Legacy schwag at market price, and it seems like you shouldn't have a problem finding someone who will want it, and give you the extra.

I did this sort of thing for awhile to acquire cheap rares that a dealer site was buying. It worked out pretty well.


I mean that's essentially what I do floor trading at GPs. When you have duals and power and cool foils, people are more than willing to give you a premium on their stuff. Less so when it's just standard crap they need for a deck

 
Link139232
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posted November 03, 2012 07:00 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Link139232 Click Here to Email Link139232 Send a private message to Link139232 Click to send Link139232 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View Link139232's Have/Want ListView Link139232's Have/Want List
I don't really check this forum, but I am glad I found this.

The OP is referring to me.

He made an offer that was dead even for the fetches, at which point I asked for a premium for trading down. He asked if he could throw in a Hinterland Harbor.I told him that wasn't much, and that's when he proceeded to make that original offer on the first post. I said that was fine and provided my address. Come to find out, he was being sarcastic, then laughed at me for "trying to rip him off" and traders like me need to be banned from the site or something.

I hope he's embarrassed.

 
lordofthepit23
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posted November 03, 2012 12:13 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for lordofthepit23 Click Here to Email lordofthepit23 Send a private message to lordofthepit23 Click to send lordofthepit23 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Link139232:
I told him that wasn't much, and that's when he proceeded to make that original offer on the first post. I said that was fine and provided my address. Come to find out, he was being sarcastic, then laughed at me for "trying to rip him off" and traders like me need to be banned from the site or something.

I hope he's embarrassed.


The fact that he made a fake offer and ended up with your address should be enough to warrant a BTA.

 
Lord Crovax
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posted November 03, 2012 01:24 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Lord Crovax Click Here to Email Lord Crovax Send a private message to Lord Crovax Click to send Lord Crovax an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lordofthepit23:
The fact that he made a fake offer and ended up with your address should be enough to warrant a BTA.

This....I think he is confused on who should be banned...

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mtglover
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posted November 03, 2012 02:13 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for mtglover Click Here to Email mtglover Send a private message to mtglover Click to send mtglover an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View mtglover's Have/Want ListView mtglover's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by lordofthepit23:
The fact that he made a fake offer and ended up with your address should be enough to warrant a BTA.

Is it really? Cause if I make an offer, what prevents the other party from simply giving me his mailing address and therefore say that the trade is confirmed? In my experience with trades, it's usually, make an offer then the other party either accepts or reject. If he accepts then we proceeds to the exchanging of mailing address.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by mtglover on November 03, 2012]

 
JayC
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posted November 03, 2012 02:58 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for JayC Click Here to Email JayC Send a private message to JayC Click to send JayC an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View JayC's Have/Want ListView JayC's Have/Want List

It's hard to let older stuff go that's been out of print for 10 - 20 years to the kid who opened the latest T2 bomb in his pack at the draft in FNM.

New cards turn to **** most of the time and the print runs are enormous in comparison to what once as, so I get it.

I agree with most here, trading is almost dead - buy and sell and call it a day.

 
rats60
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posted November 03, 2012 04:10 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for rats60 Click Here to Email rats60 Send a private message to rats60 Click to send rats60 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View rats60's Have/Want ListView rats60's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by JayC:

It's hard to let older stuff go that's been out of print for 10 - 20 years to the kid who opened the latest T2 bomb in his pack at the draft in FNM.

New cards turn to **** most of the time and the print runs are enormous in comparison to what once as, so I get it.

I agree with most here, trading is almost dead - buy and sell and call it a day.


It's even harder to trade with people who don't have a clue about what things are worth, such as thinking that FTV Realms are worth 45.00.

 
SolonJhee
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posted November 03, 2012 07:39 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for SolonJhee Click Here to Email SolonJhee Send a private message to SolonJhee Click to send SolonJhee an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by rats60:
It's even harder to trade with people who don't have a clue about what things are worth, such as thinking that FTV Realms are worth 45.00.

 
oneofchaos
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posted November 03, 2012 11:21 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for oneofchaos Click Here to Email oneofchaos Send a private message to oneofchaos Click to send oneofchaos an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by rats60:
It's even harder to trade with people who don't have a clue about what things are worth, such as thinking that FTV Realms are worth 45.00.

Not to sound stupid, but they aren't? I figured they'd be worth 50ish, can't be nearly as bad as the previous...

 
caquaa
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quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
Not to sound stupid, but they aren't? I figured they'd be worth 50ish, can't be nearly as bad as the previous...

ebay puts them in the 60-70 ball park. Shipping makes things slightly more awkward too

 
wayne
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posted November 04, 2012 12:10 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for wayne Click Here to Email wayne Send a private message to wayne Click to send wayne an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View wayne's Have/Want ListView wayne's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
Not to sound stupid, but they aren't? I figured they'd be worth 50ish, can't be nearly as bad as the previous...


Rats60's post was with reference to JayC offering $45 for sealed FTV Realms

 
oneofchaos
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posted November 04, 2012 12:30 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for oneofchaos Click Here to Email oneofchaos Send a private message to oneofchaos Click to send oneofchaos an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by wayne:

Rats60's post was with reference to JayC offering $45 for sealed FTV Realms

Given the people on here, the fact he was offering more than MSRP is startlingly comforting.

 
jaromirjagr
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posted November 04, 2012 01:40 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for jaromirjagr Click Here to Email jaromirjagr Send a private message to jaromirjagr Click to send jaromirjagr an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
wow just read this and ya If you have just been introduced to magic,experienced traders will till you that t2 sinks in price range rapidly.As soon as the newes set comes out and that hot new card is no longer the craze it sinks in value like a hot potato.Look at abrupt decay.It was $15+ at the release.Now youd be lucky to get $6 for it and this fluctuates daily.Olivia Voldaren.Good card but pretty much the same card as memnarch and how much is memnarch $4-$5?Just watch sets go by and blocks rotate out.Vengevine,gideon,lotus cobra there all victims of rotation.Fetch lands will never go down unless theyre reprinted.Then still,when they rotate theyll go back up.Lands are the foundation of any deck.Id trade my fetches for your t2 crap only if I had a buyer set up or a trade in my favor inline.I laugh at stupid kids who think theyre standard is big s$&t.The people who constantly buy packs and boxes to chase the neverending standard paperchase.joke.
 
rats60
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posted November 04, 2012 05:38 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for rats60 Click Here to Email rats60 Send a private message to rats60 Click to send rats60 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View rats60's Have/Want ListView rats60's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
Given the people on here, the fact he was offering more than MSRP is startlingly comforting.

And far less than dealer buylists. Can you sell me mint Underground Seas for 70.00 dlvd?

 

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