Click Here!
         
  Magic Online Trading League Bulletin Board
  Magic Discussion
  Troll and Toad Shipping - Is this a joke? (Page 1)

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq | rules | memberlist | search

UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone!
This topic is 2 pages long:   1  2 
  next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   Troll and Toad Shipping - Is this a joke?
JayC
Member
posted December 27, 2012 03:01 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for JayC Click Here to Email JayC Send a private message to JayC Click to send JayC an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I'm looking to buy 10 cards right now at Troll and Toad. Not 11 card, 10 cards.

The options are as follows:

USPS Priority Mail: $9.31 USD
UPS GROUND: $11.85 USD
UPS 3-Day Select: $19.69

From there it goes into the $30 up to $120 USD range depending on the option.

Does Troll and Toad not provide a relevant and realistic shipping option? As in, you know, put them in a case, throw them in a envelope and charge me $5-6 like a normal business does (i.e. SCG, CFG, MOTL/Eudo, etc.?)

Help?

[Edited 1 times, lastly by JayC on December 27, 2012]

 
Demilio
Member
posted December 27, 2012 03:05 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Demilio Click Here to Email Demilio Send a private message to Demilio Click to send Demilio an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I went to their site and added 10 copies of dreadbore to the cart, entered my zipcode (NY) and the shipping cost was .99

 
Dimh
Member
posted December 27, 2012 03:12 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Dimh Click Here to Email Dimh Send a private message to Dimh Click to send Dimh an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
They have $.99 shipping for singles on orders $10+ to the continenetal US.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Dimh on December 27, 2012]
 
walkerdog
Member
posted December 27, 2012 03:48 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for walkerdog Click Here to Email walkerdog Send a private message to walkerdog Click to send walkerdog an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by JayC:
I'm looking to buy 10 cards right now at Troll and Toad. Not 11 card, 10 cards.

The options are as follows:

USPS Priority Mail: $9.31 USD
UPS GROUND: $11.85 USD
UPS 3-Day Select: $19.69

From there it goes into the $30 up to $120 USD range depending on the option.

Does Troll and Toad not provide a relevant and realistic shipping option? As in, you know, put them in a case, throw them in a envelope and charge me $5-6 like a normal business does (i.e. SCG, CFG, MOTL/Eudo, etc.?)

Help?


Were you trying to buy 7.00 worth of cards or something?

 
Thanos
Member
posted December 27, 2012 04:31 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Thanos Click Here to Email Thanos Send a private message to Thanos Click to send Thanos an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Their .99 shipping is horrible, cards come sleeveless in between thin cardboard in a flimsy envelope.

Buy from CoolStuff inc, their .99 shipping is much better.

 
JayC
Member
posted December 27, 2012 04:32 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for JayC Click Here to Email JayC Send a private message to JayC Click to send JayC an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
$20.18 in cards. What gives?
 
Pail42
Member
posted December 27, 2012 05:04 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Pail42 Send a private message to Pail42 Click to send Pail42 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Thanos:
Their .99 shipping is horrible, cards come sleeveless in between thin cardboard in a flimsy envelope.

Buy from CoolStuff inc, their .99 shipping is much better.


Is ther .99 cent shipping relatively new or just for small orders? I remember seeing free shipping on over $100, but don't recall a $0.99 option (I'm in CA).

 
Thanos
Member
posted December 27, 2012 05:05 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Thanos Click Here to Email Thanos Send a private message to Thanos Click to send Thanos an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
Is ther .99 cent shipping relatively new or just for small orders? I remember seeing free shipping on over $100, but don't recall a $0.99 option (I'm in CA).

They've had it for awhile.

 
gaeacradle
Member
posted December 27, 2012 05:34 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for gaeacradle Click Here to Email gaeacradle Send a private message to gaeacradle Click to send gaeacradle an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
That's odd. Every time I ordered from them, unless it was something ridiculously expensive, I was able to use the 99 cents option.
 
MasterWolf
Member
posted December 27, 2012 05:49 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for MasterWolf Click Here to Email MasterWolf Send a private message to MasterWolf Click to send MasterWolf an Instant MessageVisit MasterWolf's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
There must be something wrong. Possibly you entered the zip code incorrectly, or you have something that's not a single card but a package?
 
valorale
Member
posted December 27, 2012 09:26 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for valorale Click Here to Email valorale Send a private message to valorale Click to send valorale an Instant MessageVisit valorale's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Order from Shuffle & Cut. They will have the cards in your hand in 2 days.
 
stinkinogre
Member
posted December 28, 2012 04:25 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for stinkinogre Click Here to Email stinkinogre Send a private message to stinkinogre Click to send stinkinogre an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
One of the cards your ordering probably has the weight in it wrong. Sometimes when they add a product a decimal point is in the wrong place. Check and see what the weight of the order is. Better yet as your placing the order call customer support and ask for Tonya. She is the only one in customer service that isn't in a coma from the neck up.
 
JayC
Member
posted January 01, 2013 12:09 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for JayC Click Here to Email JayC Send a private message to JayC Click to send JayC an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by valorale:
Order from Shuffle & Cut. They will have the cards in your hand in 2 days.

But their prices are pretty high, thanks for the reference tho.

 
LandDestroyer
Member
posted July 15, 2015 11:37 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for LandDestroyer Click Here to Email LandDestroyer Send a private message to LandDestroyer Click to send LandDestroyer an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
B/c i'm not above necroing a thread these days...

I just bought from Troll and toad for the first time in a year. unfortunately i placed a 2nd order before receiving the first or i wouldn't have placed the 2nd.

i bought foils and they just put them in an envelope without even penny sleeves and sent them on their way.

now that i remember it i had problems with them last time i ordered
http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum12/HTML/017940.html

i dont expect i'll order from them again for a while

 
Tim05
Member
posted July 15, 2015 11:53 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Tim05 Click Here to Email Tim05 Send a private message to Tim05 Click to send Tim05 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I never order from them. If I'm going to order bulk together from a large website and not Ebay, it's always SCG. Never had a single issue with them in probably 30+ orders.

Fast and reliable and always packed correctly.

 
Pail42
Member
posted July 15, 2015 02:34 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Pail42 Send a private message to Pail42 Click to send Pail42 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I had an experience with them recently where one of the cards was not at all mint and they refunded me. It was only a Reshape and I purchased through TCG.
 
DJSmurfy
Member
posted July 15, 2015 02:39 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for DJSmurfy Click Here to Email DJSmurfy Send a private message to DJSmurfy Click to send DJSmurfy an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Troll and Toad blows goats. I ordered some stuff through them through eBay, and it was all just slapped into an envelope in between cereal box quality cardboard.
 
A1phaMale
Member
posted July 15, 2015 02:40 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for A1phaMale Click Here to Email A1phaMale Send a private message to A1phaMale Click to send A1phaMale an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Maybe that is the reason why they are losing market share. It wasn't long ago they had a big store servicing the ATL area. I don't think they survived after the recession and retreated back to TN.
 
dwiz
Member
posted July 15, 2015 04:27 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for dwiz Click Here to Email dwiz Send a private message to dwiz Click to send dwiz an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View dwiz's Trade Auction or SaleView dwiz's Trade Auction or Sale
quote:
Originally posted by DJSmurfy:
Troll and Toad blows goats. I ordered some stuff through them through eBay, and it was all just slapped into an envelope in between cereal box quality cardboard.

Their whole envelope/cardboard thing is a joke. They should be paying 3 cents or less per toploader (I pay 4 cents). Suck it up and buy toploaders to ship cards in. They are losing way more business with their crappy envelopes than they are saving by being cheap.

 
DJSmurfy
Member
posted July 15, 2015 11:24 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for DJSmurfy Click Here to Email DJSmurfy Send a private message to DJSmurfy Click to send DJSmurfy an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by A1phaMale:
Maybe that is the reason why they are losing market share. It wasn't long ago they had a big store servicing the ATL area. I don't think they survived after the recession and retreated back to TN.

Huh, I didn't know they had a store here. Where was it?

Not that I would have ever gone, I'm in the vast wasteland known as "Anywhere south of Atlanta".

 
stinkinogre
Member
posted July 16, 2015 05:22 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for stinkinogre Click Here to Email stinkinogre Send a private message to stinkinogre Click to send stinkinogre an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I've ran into this problem before with them. Turned out someone had switched the weight of a boardgame with a card when keying new entries. It was on MM15 preorders. I called CS and talked to Tonya Steele. Took 60 seconds to fix it.

quote:
Originally posted by DJSmurfy:
Huh, I didn't know they had a store here. Where was it?

Not that I would have ever gone, I'm in the vast wasteland known as "Anywhere south of Atlanta".


They didn't The only store fronts they have had were in Barbourville KY, Corbin and London. Also they have always been based in KY. Not TN. A few of their ex buyers moved back to Atlanta but they weren't affiliated with TNT anymore.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by stinkinogre on July 16, 2015]

 
hilikuS
Member
posted July 16, 2015 07:40 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for hilikuS Click Here to Email hilikuS Send a private message to hilikuS Click to send hilikuS an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View hilikuS's Trade Auction or SaleView hilikuS's Trade Auction or Sale
I sort of don't expect mint stuff from them and it works out fine. Their grading is pretty lax, which annoys people. I think this is why they have suffered in recent years.

Basically, if you want to pay their price for something and get mint cards, you call Star City.

If you know you're not getting mint cards, you can get the same LP cards marked as NM on TCG Player for less.

 
mm1983
Member
posted July 16, 2015 08:33 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for mm1983 Click Here to Email mm1983 Send a private message to mm1983 Click to send mm1983 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View mm1983's Have/Want ListView mm1983's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by dwiz:

Their whole envelope/cardboard thing is a joke. They should be paying 3 cents or less per toploader (I pay 4 cents). Suck it up and buy toploaders to ship cards in. They are losing way more business with their crappy envelopes than they are saving by being cheap.


When I was selling common and uncommon playsets on ebay I had all of my costs broken down per envelope shipment. If it was a $2 playset of something I knew that the playset cost of the cards was .20 or .05 per card then my toploader cost was .04, envelope cost was .03, address label was .02 Ebay listing fee was free but only with paying for the $50 a month store subscription so with 500 different playsets made the listing fee .10 per listing. My shipping cost was .70 per envelope because the toploader was too "rigid" to be shipped as .49 mail.

If i remember everything right the cost breakdown was about like this for $2 playset

.70 for surcharge shipping due to rigid toploader having to go through sorting machines.
.20 for common/uncommon playset cost
.10 ebay listing fee using $50 store subscription on 500+ items
.04 Toploader
.03 Envelope
.02 Address label
.01 printer paper
.02 for use of printer ink per transaction
ebay/paypal final value fees at that time 6% then another 2.9% + .30 on paypal per transaction = about .48

So on a single $2 playset I would profit .40 but where more money was made was when people bought 3 or more playsets of cards which then got shipped in a bubble mailer which my bubble mailer cost was just under .10 per bubble mailer or .20 per bubble mailer on even larger deals since I keep 2 different sizes of bubble mailers around. Largest ebay deal done was for around $300 shipped internationally in a priority box of numerous playsets of common and uncommons. $1.70 was the bare minimum that I could sell anything for but it would sometimes go as high as a $100 playset item which at the time was Shardless Agent or Baleful Strix being the highest priced item I was selling.


[Edited 1 times, lastly by mm1983 on July 16, 2015]

 
LandDestroyer
Member
posted July 16, 2015 11:10 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for LandDestroyer Click Here to Email LandDestroyer Send a private message to LandDestroyer Click to send LandDestroyer an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
got my 2nd package from them today. i ordered over 200 cards so they couldn't just put it in a white envelope but the 'near mint' foil i ordered had a scratch and is fairly badly curved. sigh
 
hilikuS
Member
posted July 17, 2015 07:07 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for hilikuS Click Here to Email hilikuS Send a private message to hilikuS Click to send hilikuS an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View hilikuS's Trade Auction or SaleView hilikuS's Trade Auction or Sale
What happens if you email them and say their stuff wasn't NM?
 

This topic is 2 pages long:   1  2 

All times are PDT (US)

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | MOTL Home Page | Privacy Statement & TOS

© 1996-2013 Magic Online Trading League

Powered by Infopop © 2000
Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.47e