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Originally posted by Bagbokk:
It's fine to make an argument as to why something is playable or not, but jesus christ, I'm not sure why anyone feels the need to make a big deal out of such comments that more than half of this page has been spent on arguing over people's differing opinions of playable based on what they look for in Magic.

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That's all fine and good, but simply quoting another post and saying "unplayable" doesn't add much to the conversation and in that respect, what was the point of saying it? You can think a card is unplayable or way overpowered or whatever but at least provide some bit of reasoning so that we can have a discussion.

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Originally posted by CubFan81:
That's all fine and good, but simply quoting another post and saying "unplayable" doesn't add much to the conversation and in that respect, what was the point of saying it? You can think a card is unplayable or way overpowered or whatever but at least provide some bit of reasoning so that we can have a discussion.

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Originally posted by marlo213:
It adds alot to the conversation, not everything has to be explained. Without me telling you that it's unplayable, you may think that it's playable and buy it thinking it's playable. Then you lost money and I don't want to see that

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Originally posted by DConNexus:
Some Simic Elf Mutant mythic. The Realmwright is nice. RtR only had like 3 good mythics.

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Originally posted by CubFan81:
That's all fine and good, but simply quoting another post and saying "unplayable" doesn't add much to the conversation and in that respect, what was the point of saying it? You can think a card is unplayable or way overpowered or whatever but at least provide some bit of reasoning so that we can have a discussion.

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I agree that giving some reasoning for why something is unplayable would be helpful (and, at the very least, would never hurt), I just don't want discussions to start becoming "stop saying stuff is bad, everything is playable in some format."

I see a lot of decent rares and very few good Mythics in this set right now. I suppose on par with RTR, as someone mentioned. I'm alright with most of the value & playability coming from rares honestly. Makes it quite a bit less dumb to try and find stuff like I had to do with Entreats and Bonfires and Tamiyos and stuff.

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Originally posted by fluffycow:
This set looks like a commander precon, a few constructed playables wrapped in a lot of edh goodness

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That's true for any set with a decent amount of multicolored cards.

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Originally posted by ryan2754:
That's true for any set with a decent amount of multicolored cards.

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Originally posted by daner:
You'd think the first post in this new thread would have linked to the GC spolier.....but no

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QFT. I was contemplating it...but just decided not to.

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Originally posted by marlo213:
So...am I the only one that's disappointed with cipher and battalion as a whole? Buying those five-fire alarms may have been a bad idea

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Cipher is trash, barely event limited playable. Battalion is at least limited gold, only see a couple that may see constructed play.

Extort got a few more low drops, only see a couple being used though outside of limited.

Some really nice uncommon's though for constructed.

Got some token hosers, a faith feather that does dmg instead of gains life but over time, couple neat removal spells.

Also curious if someone will use the new mass reanimate? X(B/W)(B/W)(B/W) Bring back creatures with CC = to X, keep picturing a deck with lots of 1-2 drops and Champion of the Parish for some reason...

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Originally posted by Devonin:
The mass reanimate is EDH gold.

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It's not X or less, it's X exactly. Not a fan, though there's certainly some tricks to be had (namely buried alive for Mike & Trike, then X=6).

As for the set as a whole - it's kinda sad that the biggest impact GTC will have on standard immediately is mostly shocklands and some uncommons.

Cartel Aristocrat and Corpse Blockade, I'm curious why you can't sacrifice it to activate it's own ability. I think WOTC might be trying to clean up creatures with sacrifice abilities.

Elusive Krasis and about 15 others, Am I the only one that thinks there are too many unblockable creatures in standard?

Mortus Strider, Combo enabler extraordinaire

One Thousand Lashes, feels like it costs 1 too much

Purge the Profane, Is this playable in a discard control deck? Maybe in a control mirror?

Guardian of the Gateless, I like the "block any number" ability and wish I showed up a little more often.

Wight of Precinct Six, Fun card to build around or plop in any multiplayer deck.

Furious Resistance, Why is this red?

Beckon Apparition, nice simple card that accomplishes a few things.

Boros Reckoner, I love the Mogg Maniac ability, and it's a steal at only one more mana for a bigger body.

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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:

Also curious if someone will use the new mass reanimate? X(B/W)(B/W)(B/W) Bring back creatures with CC = to X, keep picturing a deck with lots of 1-2 drops and Champion of the Parish for some reason...

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A human/reanimator deck with Angel of Glory's Rise, Champion of the Parish, Champion of Lambholt, Avacyn's Pilgrim, Mulch, Grisly Salvage, and Unburial Rites is already possible in Standard, but it's just trying to do two things badly. As a beatdown deck, GW aggro with Loxodon Smiters, Restoration Angel, and Thragtusk is so much better, and Naya Humans just won an SCG Open without the cute reanimator tricks, and as a reanimator deck, getting Angel of Serenity is better.

"The Simic offer a prize to any biomancer who can breed a krasis to match a griffin in the air. It's never been claimed."
—Libuse, Boros sergeant"

Is it just me, or is Drakewing Krasis already doing that job?

3/2 flying vs 3/1 flying trample. On defence, they both die, on attack, they both die AND the krasis gets in for a point of trample damage, and is one mana cheaper.

Lets get some oversight on flavour text generation guys! :P

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Originally posted by Devonin:
The flavour text on Assault Griffin

"The Simic offer a prize to any biomancer who can breed a krasis to match a griffin in the air. It's never been claimed."
—Libuse, Boros sergeant"

Is it just me, or is Drakewing Krasis already doing that job?

3/2 flying vs 3/1 flying trample. On defence, they both die, on attack, they both die AND the krasis gets in for a point of trample damage, and is one mana cheaper.

Lets get some oversight on flavour text generation guys! :P

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You're misreading the flavor text. Consider the speaker of the claim.

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Originally posted by Devonin:
Yeah, he said the prize was never claimed, which means nobody in the Simic Combine has agreed that one of their creations can match the Griffin.

It provably does. The choice isn't up to the Boros guy.

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