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mcelraca
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Because no one has posted anything, I figured I'd be the one to do it. Spoilers seem to be coming regularly and are worth talking about.


http://mythicspoiler.com/c13/index.html


 
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I love the Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge. Already been looking at it
 
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Anyone know a good place to pre-order?

As of now I'm going to grab the Esper and Grixis decks. the cards and generals revealed seem to be my playstyle. I like how the mechanics are getting more playful as well. I'm all about flavor in magic, but I am also liking more of the cards recognizing the actual games aspect of magic (Identity Nemesis)

Has anyone ever heard about them doing four color generals?

 
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Identity Nemesis seems like a legit Legacy card for Merfolk, and even more probably just Blue decks in general. A virtually unkillable 3/1....seems on a power level as Vendilion Clique almost, if not, surpassing it.
 
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I was gonna post a thread about true name nemesis by itself, but this might be a better place. How good is this guy in 1v1 in Legacy, he seems amazing as an attacker with a sword or batterskull, but realistically what else can he do? The ups I see on him are that he stops batterskull al daaay, jace can't bounce him, stp can't exile him, lavamancer can't touch him, and he can even block ulamog and kozilek while you still have permamnents to sacrifice. What are the down though. I know he's pretty much dead against Reanimator, Griselbrand, Iona and Elesh Norn don't care if he's there or not. He can't ever block emrakul liek he can the other 2 guys, but that's hardly a -, I mean, what creatures can xP. I really like this card, but I dunno if it haves what it takes to strive in legacy, if commander was legal for modern than this would be a no brainer to get a bunch of sets of, liek ooze was a while back. But this only being legal in legacy, I wonder how good he truly is, and if he might be a good investment
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Richardo:
I was gonna post a thread about true name nemesis by itself, but this might be a better place. How good is this guy in 1v1 in Legacy, he seems amazing as an attacker with a sword or batterskull, but realistically what else can he do? The ups I see on him are that he stops batterskull al daaay, jace can't bounce him, stp can't exile him, lavamancer can't touch him, and he can even block ulamog and kozilek while you still have permamnents to sacrifice. What are the down though. I know he's pretty much dead against Reanimator, Griselbrand, Iona and Elesh Norn don't care if he's there or not. He can't ever block emrakul liek he can the other 2 guys, but that's hardly a -, I mean, what creatures can xP. I really like this card, but I dunno if it haves what it takes to strive in legacy, if commander was legal for modern than this would be a no brainer to get a bunch of sets of, liek ooze was a while back. But this only being legal in legacy, I wonder how good he truly is, and if he might be a good investment

He's certainly something worth considering in legacy merfolk, as only 1 or two lords can get this guy on pace with goyf size, and he's an absolutely great way to deal with enemy planeswalkers, which was actually kinda difficult against jund and shardless BUG. Absolutely hoses RUG's ground game if he resolves, and also gives merfolk another reason to mainboard jitte.

 
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Identity Nemisis just seems busted in general.

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Anybody know what the allotment is gonna be like? I can't find any pre-orders that are at all decent.
 
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Not sure but you should be able to get these at Walmart and Target.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by AGO:
Not sure but you should be able to get these at Walmart and Target.

True, but it's just weird. I thought I would be able to get them in bulk for something less than MSRP. I like to use them as prizes for our EDH tournaments. Some of the pre-orders on various sites and Ebay are above $150 shipped for a set of 5 .

 
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quote:
Originally posted by daner:
Identity Nemesis

Ugh.

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quote:
Originally posted by hilikuS:
Anybody know what the allotment is gonna be like? I can't find any pre-orders that are at all decent.

Wizards again is limiting the allotment you can get from them to the point where it will affect sales and prices. My store will be completely sold out the first day and have to wait for the next week for more.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by I3Iood:
Wizards again is limiting the allotment you can get from them to the point where it will affect sales and prices. My store will be completely sold out the first day and have to wait for the next week for more.

so would we even be able to see them at target or walmart?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Magihyren:
so would we even be able to see them at target or walmart?

I do not know the answer to that.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by I3Iood:
Wizards again is limiting the allotment you can get from them to the point where it will affect sales and prices. My store will be completely sold out the first day and have to wait for the next week for more.

I believe you, but just don't understand why they'd want to do that on this sort of product.

 
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What is the cheapest place to pre-order the set of 5? I've found as low as $140 w/ free shipping. Anyone else seen any lower?

https://squareup.com/market/evolution-gaming-store/mtg-commander-free-s-h

Note, I've never ordered from them before so I can't speak as to their safety.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by TheCottonRapster:
What is the cheapest place to pre-order the set of 5? I've found as low as $140 w/ free shipping. Anyone else seen any lower?

https://squareup.com/market/evolution-gaming-store/mtg-commander-free-s-h

Note, I've never ordered from them before so I can't speak as to their safety.


I have dealt with them and had good results.

 
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I am new to commander, so I hope that its ok if I expand on on this topic, because I have questions. Is a bunch of plains walkers in a commander deck good or bad?

I am not just making a deck that someone else designed, I am making my own. BUG
and I think that I can work in
Jace, Memory Adept
Liliana Vess
sorin markov
Vraska the Unseen


thoughts opinions

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Aleric:
I am new to commander, so I hope that its ok if I expand on on this topic, because I have questions. Is a bunch of plains walkers in a commander deck good or bad?

I am not just making a deck that someone else designed, I am making my own. BUG
and I think that I can work in
Jace, Memory Adept
Liliana Vess
sorin markov
Vraska the Unseen


thoughts opinions



They won't do you wrong, but they really don't have synergy together. Sorin is beast mode for EDH. I like my decks to have a theme and great synergy.

 
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@Aleric

Planeswalkers are a fine strategy for EDH, although they will almost always be a kill on sight target. Sorin will also make you an automatic enemy of every other player.

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quote:
Originally posted by iccarus:
@Aleric

Planeswalkers are a fine strategy for EDH, although they will almost always be a kill on sight target. Sorin will also make you an automatic enemy of every other player.


Is that a bad thing?

I am kind of forming my deck with a theme. I wanted to go with the golgari colors, with a splash of blue, because I like how Mirko Vosk and the Havengul Lick and Savra, the golgari Queen work together. They are like a continuous Glimpse the Unthinkable. Everyone hates when I do it I picked Damia, sage of stone as my commander and filled the deck with Gorgons, Liches, elves, and vampires. Possibly too many multicolored cards, but I think I can make it work, especially if I mulch and them bring the creatures from the graveyard directly into play. Is that too many multicolored cards? guild signets, urbourg, guildgates, and cycling lands, should make it easier, but we will see this weekend. any advise?

 
AGO
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You will just have to play it and see how it goes. I made an Elf combo deck that I thought was just going to suck and it is amazaballs fast sometimes. I have a Thada Adel EDH where I steal copy and take extra turns. It is slow at times but can come out of nowhere an steal the game! Then I have a Zur Stax which is extremely brutal.
 
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Before you buy anything from EVO gaming you might want to view this thread:

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=465359

I'm thinking I'd stay away from them. Just doesn't seem worth the hassle.

 
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Toxic Deluge looks very promising, however!

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quote:
Originally posted by malzra:
Before you buy anything from EVO gaming you might want to view this thread:

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=465359

I'm thinking I'd stay away from them. Just doesn't seem worth the hassle.


I took my chances, commander won't be nearly as rare as Arsenal. My friend said he ordered from them before and was the guy who turned me on to them. Plus now reddit seems to have a blood lust for stores that back out of agreements so I'd rather start finding these stores sooner and get them off the map.

 

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