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Pail42
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posted June 19, 2015 07:37 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Pail42 Send a private message to Pail42 Click to send Pail42 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Turn 1 seems like the best time to play him IMHO. Then try to follow up with two hasty guys. (currently 3 in standard: Kolaghan Stormsinger, Lightning Berserker, Monastery Swiftspear)

It seems like it could be a thing.

 
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Collected company another option, or vial him in in Modern/legacy. Interesting card at least.
 
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Or play it with Alesha and reanimate it.
 
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How to lose friends in limited magic
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Sphinx's Tutelage {2}{U}
Enchantment
Whenever you draw a card, target opponent puts the top two cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard. If they're both nonland cards that share a color, repeat this process.
5U: Draw a card, then discard a card.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by dfitzg88:
How to lose friends in limited magic
quote:
Sphinx's Tutelage {2}{U}
Enchantment
Whenever you draw a card, target opponent puts the top two cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard. If they're both nonland cards that share a color, repeat this process.
5U: Draw a card, then discard a card.



Would this be something to replace Mind Funeral with in my Legacy Mill deck?

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quote:
Originally posted by AEther Storm:

Would this be something to replace Mind Funeral with in my Legacy Mill deck?



It obviously depends on whether or not people around you are playing abrupt decays. The mana efficiency probably outweighs the slower nature of the card compared with Mind Funeral. Assuming it triggers with Mind Sculptor and Brainstorm for each card drawn, I could see it getting a good chunk of your opponent's deck without having to sink mana into a card every turn.

The advantage is that, if you can get it down, you can devote the rest of the game to just drawing cards and protecting it.

 
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Isn't Day's Undoing Timetwister with a free Time Stop?

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quote:
Originally posted by revenger:
Isn't Day's Undoing Timetwister with a free Time Stop?


Yep. Some folks may not want the free Time Stop though.

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quote:
Originally posted by revenger:
Isn't Day's Undoing Timetwister with a free Time Stop?


The issue is the part of the card that says, "if it's your turn, end the turn."

You can't use the card at instant speed (with Quicken or something) to end your opponent's turn. It's still a powerful effect.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by dfitzg88:
The issue is the part of the card that says, "if it's your turn, end the turn."

You can't use the card at instant speed (with Quicken or something) to end your opponent's turn. It's still a powerful effect.


Can you imagine if Day's Undoing were an instant? What would happen to the price of Timetwister?

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quote:
Originally posted by chaos021:
Can you imagine if Day's Undoing were an instant? What would happen to the price of Timetwister?


You should look at the price of quicken since the card was spoiled.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
You should look at the price of quicken since the card was spoiled.

There are already decks that play Peek in modern. I imagine any of those decks would rather switch to Quicken and throw in 1-2 copies of Day's Undoing just to get an instant speed Draw 7. Other than that, is there any real way to break this card?

Also This!

quote:
Starfield of Nyx {4}{W}
Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, you may return target enchantment card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
As long as you control five or more enchantments, each other non-Aura enchantment you control is a creature in addition to its other types and has base power and base toughness each equal to its converted mana cost.

Now that looks like a great card to build around. Most Pillow Fort decks have clunky finishers. This would just be swing for 50, I win.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by dfitzg88 on June 24, 2015]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by dfitzg88:
Other than that, is there any real way to break this card?

Notion Thief?

 
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Maybe like EOT Evaucation, then cast it. The cards go back into their deck, but you set them back pretty far if their board was full of creatures.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Notion Thief?

Yeah that's like a million mana. I'm gonna get rid of these Quickens in that case.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by dfitzg88:
Yeah that's like a million mana. I'm gonna get rid of these Quickens in that case.

Oppenent's EOT Notion Theif - your turn everybody loses their hand you draw 14 and keep 7. Clunky, but not a million mana.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
You should look at the price of quicken since the card was spoiled.

It's selling on Ebay for $1-2? Is that suppose to be a spike?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
Oppenent's EOT Notion Theif - your turn everybody loses their hand you draw 14 and keep 7. Clunky, but not a million mana.

im not saying it's a bad combo. it seems pretty powerful, but if im going to invest 7+ mana on something, it might as well be deceiver/pestermite twin. also clunky but you win the game.


Also these.

quote:
Infectious Bloodlust {1}{R}
Enchantment - Aura
Enchant creature
Enchanted creature gets +2/+1, has haste, and attacks each turn if able.
When enchanted creature dies, you may search your library for a card named Infectious Bloodlust, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle your library.


quote:
Archangel of Tithes {1}{W}{W}{W}
Creature - Angel
Flying
As long as Archangel of TIthes is untapped, creatures can't attack you or a planeswalker you control unless their controller pays {1} for each of those creatures.
As long as Archangel of Tithes is attacking, creatures can't block unless their controller pays {1} for each of those creatures.
3/5



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quote:
Originally posted by dfitzg88:
It obviously depends on whether or not people around you are playing abrupt decays. The mana efficiency probably outweighs the slower nature of the card compared with Mind Funeral. Assuming it triggers with Mind Sculptor and Brainstorm for each card drawn, I could see it getting a good chunk of your opponent's deck without having to sink mana into a card every turn.

The advantage is that, if you can get it down, you can devote the rest of the game to just drawing cards and protecting it.


Yep, but the card in itself does nothing (see Null Rod flavor text ). In my version, Mind Funeral is most likely better. What it needs is a second Glimpse the Unthinkable


I'm gonna miss the prerelease sadly. It seems like a cool 'base' set.

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Disappointing to see the pain lands return again. Was hoping for something a little more splashy; guess that will have to wait for the fall expansion set.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by daner:
It's selling on Ebay for $1-2? Is that suppose to be a spike?

It went back down, but it did spike day-of when it (presumably) sold out on TCG. The TCG history shows it going up to $2.99, the median price is now $0.92 but was $0.72 before the spoiler.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by superpup:
Disappointing to see the pain lands return again. Was hoping for something a little more splashy; guess that will have to wait for the fall expansion set.

On one hand, I'm very happy with the power level of the pain lands for standard. On the other hand, I wish they'd just keep reprinting expensive cycles so that modern becomes cheaper.

Edit: GAH! It's the enemy ones again I was thinking it was the allied cycle.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Pail42 on June 25, 2015]

 
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Demonic Pact
2BB
Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, choose one that hasn't been chosen —

• Demonic Pact deals 4 damage to target creature or player and you gain 4 life.

• Target opponent discards two cards.

• Draw two cards.

• You lose the game.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by James_Hetfield2:
Demonic Pact
2BB
Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, choose one that hasn't been chosen —

• Demonic Pact deals 4 damage to target creature or player and you gain 4 life.

• Target opponent discards two cards.

• Draw two cards.

• You lose the game.


Playable but not a good limited card. Donate + Mindslaver for the lols. Fun with Auratog or some way to remove your own permanents.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by James_Hetfield2:
Demonic Pact
2BB
Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, choose one that hasn't been chosen —

• Demonic Pact deals 4 damage to target creature or player and you gain 4 life.

• Target opponent discards two cards.

• Draw two cards.

• You lose the game.


I wish this card automatically appeared on both players battlefields on turn 4 every game of magic. Let's get this over with.

 

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