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revenger
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posted June 25, 2015 11:56 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for revenger Click Here to Email revenger Send a private message to revenger Click to send revenger an Instant MessageVisit revenger's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View revenger's Have/Want ListView revenger's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by James_Hetfield2:
Demonic Pact
2BB
Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, choose one that hasn't been chosen —

• Demonic Pact deals 4 damage to target creature or player and you gain 4 life.

• Target opponent discards two cards.

• Draw two cards.

• You lose the game.


Awesome name for a card. Lousy mtg card.

 
skizzikmonger
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Piledriver's back
 
Pail42
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I'm ready for some modern goblins with Collected Company Piledriver and Atarka's Command.

choo chooo!

 
aethertech
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Demonic Pact makes me cry. How is it a mythic? How is it even playable? How could they do that to us, slaves to the darkness.
 
Pail42
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As a red lover I now laugh at all the people complaining that super flavorful mythic black enchantment isn't constructed playable.
 
dfitzg88
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The elves keep coming

quote:
Sylvan Messenger {3}{G}
Creature - Elf
Trample
When Sylvan Messenger enters the battlefield, reveal the top four cards of your library. Put all Elf cards revealed this way into your hand and the rest on the bottom of your library in any order.
2/2

quote:
Shaman of the Pack {1}{G}{B}
When Shaman of the Pack enters the battlefield, target opponent loses life equal to the number of Elves you control.
"To the elves, her spear is a compass; to the boggarts, a harbinger of doom."
3/2

quote:
Gnarlroot Trapper {B}
Creature - Elf Druid
{T}, Pay 1 life: Add {G} to your mana pool. Spend this mana only to cast an Elf creature spell.
{T}: Target attacking Elf you control gains deathtouch until end of turn.
1/1

quote:
Dwyven's Elite {1}{G}
Creature - Elf Warrior
When Dwynen's Elite enters the battlefield, if you control another Elf, put a 1/1 green Elf Warrior creature token onto the battlefield.
"Come, my beautiful brothers and sisters. Let us hunt." —Dwynen, Gilt-Leaf daen
2/2

 
aethertech
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quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
As a red lover I now laugh at all the people complaining that super flavorful mythic black enchantment isn't constructed playable.


You have no idea, the rage I feel, now I just play Krenko instead of Xaihou Dun.
 
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Demonic Pact + Any "Return target nonland permanent to your hand" Is an awesome combination... Especially if it starts over per play
 
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quote:
Harbinger of the Tides {U}{U}
Creature - Merfolk Wizard
You may cast Harbinger of the Tides as though it had flash if you pay 2 more to cast it.
When Harbinger of the Tides enters the battlefield, you may return target tapped creature an opponent controls to its owner's hand.
2/2

For any blue nykthos players, you might have a good summer.

 
aethertech
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Based off what is currently spoiled for Origins; here's a quick list I threw together for Mono-blue Devotion; which I'm just going to name Merkthos, and lets hope that name catches on.


Creatures: 30
4x Master of Waves
4x Harbringer of the Tides
4x Shorecrasher Elemental
4x Mindreaver
4x Gudul Lurker
3x Thassa, God of the Sea
1x Profaner of the Dead
4x Faerie Miscreant
2x Hypnotic Siren

Non-Creatures: 8
2x Bident of Thassa
3x Treasure Cruise (Maybe 4?)
3x Icy Blast

Lands: 21
3x Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
+ Fetches?
Xx Islands

SB: (I don't know what to put here, but screw combo decks.)
4x Swan Song
4x Disdainful Stroke
4x Negate
4x Neutralizing Blast
3x Omen Speaker


Of course, that's all possibly a terrible deck design since the full spoiler isn't out yet; and I have no idea and I'm to lazy to look up, the previous monoblue devotion deck lists.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by aethertech on June 27, 2015]

 
daner
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posted June 28, 2015 12:53 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for daner Click Here to Email daner Send a private message to daner Click to send daner an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by dfitzg88:
For any blue nykthos players, you might have a good summer.

I'd love to get into Modern Merfolk but I think the price just went up on every card in that deck. I'm not paying $40 for a single copy of Aether Vial. **** Modern.

 
dwiz
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quote:
Originally posted by daner:
I'd love to get into Modern Merfolk but I think the price just went up on every card in that deck. I'm not paying $40 for a single copy of Aether Vial. **** Modern.

Well I'd hope not. You can easily get vials for $20 each.

 
dfitzg88
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quote:
Originally posted by daner:
I'd love to get into Modern Merfolk but I think the price just went up on every card in that deck. I'm not paying $40 for a single copy of Aether Vial. **** Modern.

vial is just so much fun to brew with. it's like having shocklands and fetches; if you want to brew in modern, you should have a playset of vials. it opens up a lot of doors for mono white and mono blue decks.

Edit: Also vial just jumped 10 dollars since that card was spoiled, in case anyone responds to the comment about being able to purchase it for 20

[Edited 1 times, lastly by dfitzg88 on June 29, 2015]

 
dfitzg88
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Gotta love weird big green things

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The Greater Aurora {6}{G}{G}{G}
Sorcery
Each player shuffles all cards from his or her hand and all permanents he or she owns into his or her library, then draws that many cards. Each player may put any number of land cards from his or her hand onto the battlefield. Exile The Great Aurora.

 
Pail42
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posted June 29, 2015 11:45 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Pail42 Send a private message to Pail42 Click to send Pail42 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
So I put in my preorder on Origins and the store I go through is limiting it to three boxes per person - usually a case is no problem. I heard second hand (a friend ordered for me) that the store was calling it a somewhat limited product.

Is this just my store having limited supply or is this set less available (from WotC) than recent standard product?

 
dfitzg88
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posted June 30, 2015 06:13 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for dfitzg88 Click Here to Email dfitzg88 Send a private message to dfitzg88 Click to send dfitzg88 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
Is this just my store having limited supply or is this set less available (from WotC) than recent standard product?

There's no information on the WPN site about limited supply. I think your store might be hedging given that the singles and core set drafts are usually not as popular. I for one am not excited to draft this set.


Also, what the heck is this? It's the most hard to use "morphling" variant I've ever seen. I honestly can see it showing up as a 1-of in Esper dragons to help protect Ojutai against other control decks, but it definitely can't stand by itself.

quote:
Disciple of the Rings {3}{U}{U}
Creature - Human Wizard
{1}, Exile an instant or sorcery card from your graveyard, choose one:
- Counter target non-creature spell unless it's controller pays 2
- Disciple of the Rings gets +1/+1 until end of turn.
- Tap target creature.
- Untap target creature.
3/4

 
flam flawless
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Originally posted by dfitzg88:

Also, what the heck is this? It's the most hard to use "morphling" variant I've ever seen. I honestly can see it showing up as a 1-of in Esper dragons to help protect Ojutai against other control decks, but it definitely can't stand by itself.

[QUOTE]Disciple of the Rings {3}{U}{U}
Creature - Human Wizard
{1}, Exile an instant or sorcery card from your graveyard, choose one:
- Counter target non-creature spell unless it's controller pays 2
- Disciple of the Rings gets +1/+1 until end of turn.
- Tap target creature.
- Untap target creature.
3/4


[/QUOTE]

This card is amazing. Control just became a VERY big thing in standard.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by flam flawless:
This card is amazing. Control just became a VERY big thing in standard.

Am I the only person that likes this?


Thoptor Spy Network 2UU

Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, if you control an artifact, put a 1/1 colorless Thopter artifact creature token with flying onto the battlefield.

Whenever one or more artifact creatures you control deals combat damage to a player, draw a card.

 
aethertech
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quote:
Originally posted by Rabid Wo1f:
Am I the only person that likes this?


Thoptor Spy Network 2UU

Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, if you control an artifact, put a 1/1 colorless Thopter artifact creature token with flying onto the battlefield.

Whenever one or more artifact creatures you control deals combat damage to a player, draw a card.


Four mana for something that can't even block before your next turn is "meh" at best. And it is sorcery speed. That isn't something I'd want to run in any standard deck in the past decade, I don't see it running in a deck in any format in the present.

 
skizzikmonger
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I need this:

Priest of the Blood Rite
3BB
Creature-Human Cleric
When Priest of the Blood Rite enters the battlefield,
put a 5/5 black Demon creature token with flying onto
the battlefield.

At the beginning of your upkeep, you lose 2 life.
2/2


quote:
Originally posted by Rabid Wo1f:
Am I the only person that likes this?


Thoptor Spy Network 2UU

Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, if you control an artifact, put a 1/1 colorless Thopter artifact creature token with flying onto the battlefield.

Whenever one or more artifact creatures you control deals combat damage to a player, draw a card.


I love this for my Sydri EDH deck

 
dwiz
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
I need this:

Priest of the Blood Rite
3BB
Creature-Human Cleric
When Priest of the Blood Rite enters the battlefield,
put a 5/5 black Demon creature token with flying onto
the battlefield.

At the beginning of your upkeep, you lose 2 life.
2/2


I love this for my Sydri EDH deck


I'm pretty sure you can get this for $1.00 2 weeks after release. Seems pretty bad.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by dwiz:
I'm pretty sure you can get this for $1.00 2 weeks after release. Seems pretty bad.

Idk - seems like fun in an esper edh deck with a lot of blinking

 
aethertech
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quote:
Originally posted by flam flawless:
Idk - seems like fun in an esper edh deck with a lot of blinking

What do you mean by IDK, we know the general princples of magic pricing - if it's not a tournament playable; collectible; or just absurdly powerful casual card - odds are its a bulk.

And this particular black card is exactly none of those. (at the moment) there is no standard, modern, legacy, or vintage deck for it; it's only good in Alesha type of deck, it's overall a flavorful card - but neither all that powerful, rare (physical copies), or a high-casual appeal.

 
flam flawless
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I wasn't disagreeing it wouldn't be bulk prices. The sheep build whatever the pros tell them. I was saying it seems fun, not bad in a casual edh build.
 
Tim05
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quote:
Originally posted by aethertech:
What do you mean by IDK, we know the general princples of magic pricing - if it's not a tournament playable; collectible; or just absurdly powerful casual card - odds are its a bulk.

And this particular black card is exactly none of those. (at the moment) there is no standard, modern, legacy, or vintage deck for it; it's only good in Alesha type of deck, it's overall a flavorful card - but neither all that powerful, rare (physical copies), or a high-casual appeal.


Where did anybody say it was going to be an expensive card? He said fun. Fun cards are usually $1.00

 

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