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WCFmo
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posted November 20, 2010 11:40 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for WCFmo Click Here to Email WCFmo Send a private message to WCFmo Click to send WCFmo an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View WCFmo's Trade Auction or SaleView WCFmo's Trade Auction or Sale
quote:
Originally posted by thror:
LA3 - there is still the possibility that i make a doc save tonight. As slim as it is...


Good luck thror. For what its worth, I think I'll follow your advice as to who to check.

 
thror
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quote:
Originally posted by WCFmo:
Good luck thror. For what its worth, I think I'll follow your advice as to who to check.

If you aren't the cop, this is def my last game for a while. Not because you played me (mad props if you did, actually), but seriously. 4 mafia, a serial killer, and no cop? What is this, Mexico?

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WCFmo
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quote:
Originally posted by thror:
If you aren't the cop, this is def my last game for a while. Not because you played me (mad props if you did, actually), but seriously. 4 mafia, a serial killer, and no cop? What is this, Mexico?


I'm just mad that I didn't get a name out of my 3 checks. This has been a crazy game nevertheless, I mean if at least one of the Masons would have survived past R0 we would have been in a great spot to win this game.

 
thror
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Well, Monty claims he is a mason. One doesn't do a whole lot of good though.

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WCFmo
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quote:
Originally posted by thror:
Well, Monty claims he is a mason. One doesn't do a whole lot of good though.


You're right. I guess it's safe to assume someone was lying - JUNI or Monty.

 
junichi
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I'm going to check Hili, since there is no way to prove if WCFmo is the cop or not anyway if there is indeed no cop this game. I do find it hard to believe if there is no cop and doc in the game, and if there is no doc, then the game would've been over. For now, we just have to assume what we previously came up with is still legitimate, other than the Gawain part. If we somehow make it past this next NK, we should follow through with the OGB lynch.

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WCFmo
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quote:
Originally posted by junichi:
I'm going to check Hili, since there is no way to prove if WCFmo is the cop or not anyway if there is indeed no cop this game. I do find it hard to believe if there is no cop and doc in the game, and if there is no doc, then the game would've been over. For now, we just have to assume what we previously came up with is still legitimate, other than the Gawain part. If we somehow make it past this next NK, we should follow through with the OGB lynch.


That's not necessarily true, if you are who you say you are can check me for a night action and it should say yes or no. Assuming I'm not the mafia leader (which I'm not) it should give you a firm answer. With that being said, I think we are gonna need a miracle here.

 
junichi
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quote:
Originally posted by WCFmo:
That's not necessarily true, if you are who you say you are can check me for a night action and it should say yes or no. Assuming I'm not the mafia leader (which I'm not) it should give you a firm answer. With that being said, I think we are gonna need a miracle here.



The thing is, if I check you and turns out you are not the cop, it becomes a "he said she said" situation, which doesn't help at all. I would rather follow what we've decided appoint earlier, and just assume we were just bad luck that round and Gawain was too drunk.

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Gawain
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quote:
Originally posted by junichi:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by WCFmo:
That's not necessarily true, if you are who you say you are can check me for a night action and it should say yes or no. Assuming I'm not the mafia leader (which I'm not) it should give you a firm answer. With that being said, I think we are gonna need a miracle here.



The thing is, if I check you and turns out you are not the cop, it becomes a "he said she said" situation, which doesn't help at all. I would rather follow what we've decided appoint earlier, and just assume we were just bad luck that round and Gawain was too drunk.


[/QUOTE]

I know I'm dead, and I'll chill after this, but I would like to point out that I have NEVER played this game sober. Ever. And oddly, some folks seem to think I'm kinda OK at this game.

 
Liq
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Game Over.

Thror (doctor) was killed.

MVP Mafia : WCFmo
MVP Citizen : ryan2754

Sign ups for the December game start on Monday.

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Montague
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Wow
 
Tranderas
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GG dwarf!

Well-played maf; wcfmo, that was brilliant.

 
dakrum
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posted November 20, 2010 06:16 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for dakrum Click Here to Email dakrum Click to send dakrum an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
That was an excellent ploy. Did you feel that you pretty much had to try to fake claim in order to win?

That was impressive - my best guess is that think the other mafia are yakusoku, junichi, and hilikuS respectively if it helps anyone.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by dakrum on November 20, 2010]

 
Liq
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quote:
Originally posted by dakrum:
That was impressive - my best guess is that think the other mafia are yakusoku, junichi, and hilikuS respectively if it helps anyone.

Each one of those had a role but only one is mafia.

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junichi
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do we not have a cop at all? Btw, I am the tracker.

Edit: Blah, I was right about WCFmo in the Jaz analyst then.

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[Edited 1 times, lastly by junichi on November 20, 2010]

dakrum
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posted November 20, 2010 07:11 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for dakrum Click Here to Email dakrum Send a private message to dakrum Click to send dakrum an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Liq:
Each one of those had a role but only one is mafia.


Ok. I probably couldn't be completely right anyway since that would mean they had no cop or tracker. Bad logic FTL.

I think the cits could have busted WCFmo though, although that wouldn't have guaranteed anything after that I suppose .

[Edited 1 times, lastly by dakrum on November 20, 2010]

 
Liq
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quote:
Originally posted by junichi:
do we not have a cop at all?

Yes, there was no Cop in the game.

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rayragnarok
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hi guys, i was a mafia again this game :P good games cits. i must say this game was pretty one sided, 4 mafia and 0 cop doesn't seem fair.
 
thror
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Liq - assuming i got roleblocked? Because I sent in the save for myself again.

also - as stated previously - no cop == I quit.

Props to Wcfmo. Slops to Gawain.

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junichi
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Does that mean we have 1 mafia boss, 1 mafia role blocker, 2 regular mafia, 1 serial killer, 3 mason, 1 doc, and 1 tracker? Not gonna lie, but the tracker role is pretty useless without a cop. Even when the tracker found out all the people with NA, you can't really come out and say much without risking revealing the cop/doc, unless the cop/doc comes out, or the cop/doc dies.

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Gawain
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Gee, I didn't call anyone lying about their role or anything.

Though, I didn't peg WCFmo. Well played Sir.

 
Liq
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quote:
Originally posted by rayragnarok:
i must say this game was pretty one sided, 4 mafia and 0 cop doesn't seem fair.

Originally it was going to be 3 Mafia, 3 Masons, Tracker, Doc, Serial Killer, Bomb, but then 2 more ppl joined at the last minute so I added the Mafia RB thinking "eh that will balance it". Big mistake on my part.

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Gawain
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posted November 20, 2010 10:37 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Gawain Click Here to Email Gawain Send a private message to Gawain Click to send Gawain an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
And my edit didn't make it at all. Bah.

Long story short, there are too many roles, 4 Mafia is BAD, Cop and Doctor should be mandatory, Masons are all well and good but don't balance Mafia/Added Mafia, and people shouldn't take reveals as be all/end all. I realize I played a bad game, and I'm sorry for that, but I do believe I was the ONLY person SCREAMING that at least ONE of the reveals was false, and I was effin' right. Didn't peg the correct reveal, sadly, and wasn't on to WCFmo at all (double sadly), but at least I was on the right track. Too little, too late, and with too little credibility, but damn. And I was the drunk one :/

 
hilikuS
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quote:
Originally posted by Gawain:
Gee, I didn't call anyone lying about their role or anything.

Though, I didn't peg WCFmo. Well played Sir.


Jeez even I did and I was mafia!

Mafia roleblocker actually. So once thror came out as the doc and you guys lynched a citizen it was game.

I was kinda hoping fwy would stay alive so I could just block him as I saw fit, but eh well.


quote:
Originally posted by thror:
Slops to Gawain.


With all due respect dude. You lynched him. Whether Gawain played poorly or not, that's kind of a chump move to say something like that.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by hilikuS on November 20, 2010]

 
Zakman86
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I want to apologize to everyone for backing out.

Basically, what it came down to for me is that since I'm in Afghanistan, I don't have a lot of time to be able to devote to the game anyways, but I had a computer that could access the Internet at my desk so I could keep up and give my thoughts.

During round 1, that went away. I just didn't have enough time to keep up and play at a level that I felt comfortable with.

 

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