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YES! Bring em back, Ric Flair could manage them. I still remember the good ole days of them...

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So, who would make a great stable of heels to pull it off?

I think I'd like to see:
Cody Rhodes
Kane
Daniel Bryan
Christian

There are likely better candidates but that's who I can think of off the top of my head.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by AtriumXP:
So, who would make a great stable of heels to pull it off?

I think I'd like to see:
Cody Rhodes
Kane
Daniel Bryan
Christian

There are likely better candidates but that's who I can think of off the top of my head.


Well, Christian is face right now and 100% irrelevant.

The other problem is that there are no for good heels you could put together for it now. Evolution was the last great stable and nothing will ever come again that could match it. (Yes, the Nexus was a complete bust and CM Punk's SES wasn't large enough.)

That said, CM Punk as the head of a stable last that would be nothing short of epic.

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quote:
Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
Well, Christian is face right now and 100% irrelevant.


Exactly why he'd be perfect for it? It doesn't matter if they're faces (or heels) right now - the point is, who do you think would be good for something like this?

Other decent, underutilized candidates could include:
Jinder Mahal (yuck)
Ryback (can totally see him filling an Arn Anderson type role)
Antonio Cesaro

 
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Push heels to win all current big belts - make a stable.

It would be, currently, Miz, CM Punk, Antonio Cesaro and whoever takes the belt off sheamus. Not a lot of chemistry, though.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by ryan2754:
Push heels to win all current big belts - make a stable.

It would be, currently, Miz, CM Punk, Antonio Cesaro and whoever takes the belt off sheamus. Not a lot of chemistry, though.


Randy Orton making a heel turn and getting the belt off Sheamus would be awesome.

edit: don't get me wrong, I like Orton as a face, but this would be a great switchup

[Edited 1 times, lastly by speechjew on September 22, 2012]

 
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Punk
Zigglar
Miz
Ryback

There's your stable

[Edited 1 times, lastly by skizzikmonger on September 22, 2012]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Punk
Zigglar
Miz
Ryback

There's your stable


That's pretty good actually. I like how dynamic Miz and Zigglar are, Ryback is the enforcer, and Punk is the cunning leader.

You could also probably argue in favor of Wade Barret or Lord Tensai in place of Ryback or Miz.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by AtriumXP on September 22, 2012]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by AtriumXP:
That's pretty good actually. I like how dynamic Miz and Zigglar are, Ryback is the enforcer, and Punk is the cunning leader.

You could also probably argue in favor of Wade Barret or Lord Tensai in place of Ryback or Miz.


Tensai is a joke. Barrett taking a back seat to anyone would be very akward, same for The Miz.

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quote:
Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
Barrett taking a back seat to anyone would be very akward, same for The Miz.


I'm pretty sure people initially felt that way about Randy Orton when he joined Evolution.

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Tensai is a joke.


Well, first off, I'll say that I don't even really like Tensai, but in defense of my suggestion: I think he'd have more potential in a group storyline than as a singles competitor.

WWE has wasted a LOT of wrestlers' potential by giving them lame gimmicks and poor storylines. As far as Tensai's in-ring abilities go, he's certainly not the most technical wrestler out there, but he's powerful and menacing (see: Bam Bam Bigelow), which I think can be used to great theatrical effect (the whole point of wrestling?).

Hell, Tensai himself is a perfect example of this... A-Train had no appeal in the US and became (highly overrated but) somewhat popular in Japan, enough where WWE brought him back only to squander the opportunity.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by AtriumXP:
That's pretty good actually. I like how dynamic Miz and Zigglar are, Ryback is the enforcer, and Punk is the cunning leader.

You could also probably argue in favor of Wade Barret or Lord Tensai in place of Ryback or Miz.


I think having Miz or Zig in the group (preferably Miz) could eventually lead to the groups demise, as ego's start to take over.

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Agreed, but how long do you want to see them together, anyhow?

These things are generally more interesting (to me, at least) when there is some sort of internal strife going on. Just look at the Kane/Daniel Bryan "*I* am the tag-team champions!" bit. I think that's hilarious, and they're already trying to one-up each other (pushing them wins). Of course it will self-destruct (and likely very soon!) but that's a big part of the fun for me.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by AtriumXP:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
Barrett taking a back seat to anyone would be very akward, same for The Miz.


I'm pretty sure people initially felt that way about Randy Orton when he joined Evolution.
[/QUOTE]

There is a huge difference though. Orton wasn't a world champion or even a secondary champion when that happened. Miz has been World Champion, beat Cena at Wrestlemania (yes, with The Rock's help), and is currently the IC Champ. It would be the same as having Sting take a back seat to Ric Flair to join the Horsemen after he beat Hogan for the WCW Title.

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But, Barrett has only held the IC belt once, for like a two-month reign, and lost his rematch. He competed and lost (first man taken out!) in a single Elimination Chamber match for the World title. Also, Miz is only recently becoming relevant again (which I'm happy about).

*shrug* I don't know... I just think it would be a cool storyline to have them be a stable but also competing with each other, trading title shots (or at least showcased matches) and leading to some legitimate heated feuds after the inevitable break-up. Maybe it's too much of a rehash of what happened with Evolution, though.

Ziggler's money in the bank case would be a perfect lead-in for something like this, though.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by AtriumXP:
But, Barrett has only held the IC belt once, for like a two-month reign, and lost his rematch. He competed and lost (first man taken out!) in a single Elimination Chamber match for the World title. Also, Miz is only recently becoming relevant again (which I'm happy about).

*shrug* I don't know... I just think it would be a cool storyline to have them be a stable but also competing with each other, trading title shots (or at least showcased matches) and leading to some legitimate heated feuds after the inevitable break-up. Maybe it's too much of a rehash of what happened with Evolution, though.

Ziggler's money in the bank case would be a perfect lead-in for something like this, though.


Fully agree on what you said about Barrett. The problem is that he already tried to lead a stable with the Nexus. So, I can't actually picture him taking a back seat to anyone in a group.

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That's probably where I misunderstood you. I was envisioning this more like DX, where everyone's sort of an equal partner (don't count Pac, Billy Gunn and Road Dogg, lol).

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It's looking like Cena's out of Hell in a Cell with an elbow injury
 
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quote:
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It's looking like Cena's out of Hell in a Cell with an elbow injury

Apprently he's gonna do it.

I couldn't imagine who Punk was looking at, at the end of RaW and when I saw Ryback, I got a chill.

FWIW, I thought the Kofi/Ziggler match was very good.

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Wwe going to make ryback champion at hell in the cell.

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quote:
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Wwe going to make ryback champion at hell in the cell.

Doubt it. I doubt they give Cena the belt if he takes on Punk, which he will if he's anything close to 100%. I'm not saying Ryback won't eventually win the title, I just don't think they have him win it now. If they do have Punk drop the title at HiaC, the winner will drop it to Punk at one of the next two PPV's, because WWE is setting up Punk vs Rock for the title at the Royal Rumble and a Rock/Cena rematch at WM.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Doubt it. I doubt they give Cena the belt if he takes on Punk, which he will if he's anything close to 100%. I'm not saying Ryback won't eventually win the title, I just don't think they have him win it now. If they do have Punk drop the title at HiaC, the winner will drop it to Punk at one of the next two PPV's, because WWE is setting up Punk vs Rock for the title at the Royal Rumble and a Rock/Cena rematch at WM.

Whatever happens, ziggler will cash in his MITB contract here and win.

 
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I'm sort of hoping that Punk keeps the title reign going to get him higher on the all-time streak list.

I also think Ryback should have at least one loss before he takes the title? I mean, fans have barely seen anything out of him beyond the gimmick itself. I can see them doing it anyway but I really hope they do not.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by speechjew:
Whatever happens, ziggler will cash in his MITB contract here and win.

If he does, he'll just drop it to Punk at one of the two PPV's for the same reason Cena or Ryback would drop it. I think Punk is still champ after HiaC, and won't drop the title until WM when RR winner Ryback beats him.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
I think Punk is still champ after HiaC, and won't drop the title until WM when RR winner Ryback beats him.

Ryback taking the Rumble would be a much smoother transition. I'd like to see it go that way as well.

 
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I expect Punk to drop the belt now after what he did at the end of RAW. May even face a suspension.
 

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