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Originally posted by Magicthegathering.com:

Dragon's Maze Booster Packs All Contain Nonbasic Lands

That's better! The fifteenth card in Dragon's Maze packs isn't basic land; it's nonbasic land. All ten guildgates will be showing up (with the Dragon's Maze expansion symbol), as will all ten shocklands from Return to Ravnica and Gatecrash (with their Return to Ravnica or Gatecrash symbols). They'll show up at rates about like their original rarity. There's also a mythic rare land from Dragon's Maze that will show up there sometimes!

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Do you think prices will fall even more, or reach an equilibrium somewhere under it's current price during/after the last set's release?

It'll also mean Dragon's Maze will sell like hot cakes.

3 Mythic packs again!

Seems shocks are going the way of Pain Lands/M10 Lands.

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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
and I was right about Shocks never hitting anything above 10 again in the near future...

Seems shocks are going the way of Pain Lands/M10 Lands.

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Originally posted by Zeckk:
True, but no one really took into account the possibility of 2 reprints within the block . $7 seems likely going forward all the way through rotation.

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True, I tend to go off gut feelings for my speculations, never know exactly why, but usually turn out right, even if the why is way off :P

Thinking 5-7 for shocks, DGM will be the most drafted/opened set in recent history, maybe ever as the EV value will be insane.

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Originally posted by TimeBeing:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
True, I tend to go off gut feelings for my speculations, never know exactly why, but usually turn out right, even if the why is way off :P

Thinking 5-7 for shocks, DGM will be the most drafted/opened set in recent history, maybe ever as the EV value will be insane.

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Not the most drafted at all.. Dragon maze draft is one pack of each of the set. And there are two draft able sets coming after it, before the next block. Not expecting there to be much dragon maze out there.

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The set gimmick will change how some places handle it though, I expect DGM to be one of, if not the most opened small set ever...

@Dimh Far as I can tell, I expect their to be foils of the shocks in DGM, and I expect the price to tank for RtR block versions, and the price for Old Ravnica to go up.

I'm expecting 5-7 shocks and 10-20 foils for the near future...(next 2-4 years)

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Originally posted by mrieff:
I would have found it much more appropiate if they had announced this right at RtR. People who got their shocklands then may feel quite cheated right now.

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Originally posted by Zeckk:
You can't be serious. Shocks are the backbone of the current standard land base. It's perfectly appropriate to announce the DGM shocks when they did, as it helps them sell more packs. Or are you arguing that you only bought shocks so you could sit on them for speculation? Either way, your statement seems ignorant.

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Yes, it helps to sell more packs of DGM. But what about the guy who bought playsets during RtR, and is now confronted with the fact he could pick them up much cheaper some months down the road? I am not one of those guys, nor a hoarder of shocks or whatever other card.
But never has a card been reprinted like litterally some months later, and I can imagine people are feeling ****ed off. And I've been called many things, but ignorant has never been one of them

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Originally posted by stab107:
If someone is "****ed off" about a reprint like the Shock lands then they have a very narrow scope of vision. When building a new deck, generally the single most expensive portion of that deck is the mana base. Making shocks more readily available fosters the growth and health of the game by making it more accessible. As a player, I find it difficult to see this in a negative light.

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I have absolutely no problem with shocks being reprinted, I only said I would be annoyed if I paid full value at RtR to find out a (value-decreasing) reprint was due only months later.

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Originally posted by mrieff:
I have absolutely no problem with shocks being reprinted, I only said I would be annoyed if I paid full value at RtR to find out a (value-decreasing) reprint was due only months later.

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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
Also DMG just takes shocks from 7-10 to 5-7, you lose a whole 2-3 bucks, seen much much worse loses on cards.

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Originally posted by JayC:
In some ways, that is a big deal. Some have paid $10-12 for their shocks (in previous months) so it's as much as a $7 dollar loss per card because of an unprecedented move by Wizards.

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Thing is those who paid 10-12 lost money even before DGM, so they were already doing it wrong, DGM just made it much worse true, but to say DGM caused it is just wrong.

You'd also think people would be selling them all now while they are still in the 7-10 range, and then just buy them up latter, you lose less, and in the long term come out ahead.