posted December 14, 2003 02:18 PM            

Example:

Saddam has a beard.
OBL has a beard.
OBL is a member of al-Qaeda
Therefore, Saddam is a member of al-Qaeda

posted December 14, 2003 02:23 PM            

"Well, after the US put me in power, I decided that I'd milk it for what it was worth and then cut my ties with the CIA."

Nah, that wouldn't look too good. He either gets "tragically killed by a crazed inmate/soldier/Iraqi" or be drive him insane and then let him testify.

posted December 14, 2003 02:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Tha Gunslinga
Congratulations, you're an idiot.

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And did you make any effort to counter my points, rather than simply try to insult me?
No?
Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you your idiot.

posted December 14, 2003 03:09 PM            

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Originally posted by NightDog:
Jawhol Mein Furher

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Translation:

The U.S. captured my butt buddy, and now I cry.

edit: shoud have been my not by, thanks Wagamer
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posted December 14, 2003 03:14 PM            

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Originally posted by deathling:
Translation:

The U.S. captured my butt buddy, and now I cry.

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fixed

posted December 14, 2003 03:40 PM            

EDIT: Oh, you fixed a typo. Leaving this post here for anyone else who looks and thinks the same thing.

posted December 14, 2003 03:45 PM            

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Originally posted by GottaLoveElves:
But... you... didn't change anything?

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I was thinking the same thing, so I read it word by word. By = My, fyi.

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posted December 14, 2003 04:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Wildone5102:
have they done the DNA testing yet?

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Indeed. Apparently, anyway.

posted December 14, 2003 04:15 PM            

While I ultimately believe that the US should never have gone into Iraq in the first place, and that my approval for this venture was won by lies viz-a-viz the presence of WMD in Iraq, I cannot deny that the capture of Saddam is a good thing. Congratulations to the US forces, and especially to the Iraqi people. Hopefully the Baathists will be demoralized and will scatter upon this development.

As I said, that HAD been my intention. Instead, my liberal sensibilities are assaulted by such moronic tripe as this:

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Originally posted by Tchula:
Well we can all rest easy knowing the world is a safer place thanks to the Bush administration. I know all you socialists are sick to your stomach right now. Got Tums?

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For the thinking impaired: liberal does not equal socialist. Haven't we already had that discussion?

That aside why would a liberal (or even a socialist for that matter) be sick to their stomach at the capture of Saddam Hussein? Whadja think? People who wouldn't fellate Bush must be in bed with Saddam?

That dark, warm, wet membrane around your head is your colon. Please pull, really, really hard.

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Originally posted by deathling:
Tough day to be a liberal! I recommend liberals spend the day smoking opiates. Might help?

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Ladies and gentlemen, another galactically obtuse pronouncement from MOTL's very own village idiot: deathling.

"Tough day to be a liberal!" But apparently it's a great day to be a complete moron. Congratulations deathling, it's YOUR DAY! If you had a second braincell to rub against the first one, you might be able to discover fire next.

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Originally posted by deathling:
At least it is fun to listen to the different ways the liberals spin this thing.

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...says the airhead regurgitator of conservative spin. You spin so much, I'm surprised you haven't puked and fallen over by now.

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Originally posted by Rogue_leader87:
I'm sorry, but anyone who thinks that this is a bad thing can go choke on their own organs and die. I think it's awesome. It needed to be done, so lay off of Bush. You'd have been happy if that SOB had been captured too. Thanks.

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Hi Rogue_leader87! I think this is a *great* thing... and no, I won't lay off Bush. I certainly also will not lay off the vapid and highly vocal Bush fanboys who think this event somehow validates this war or mitigates his wrongdoings.

I'm sick and tired of people who should be out looking for the rest of their braincells trying to tell me what a great president Bush is as if the guy can do no wrong.

You love Bush? Goody for you. I think he's a deviant slime and half the country agrees with me. I'm as entitled to (voice) my opinion as you are so don't tell me what I can and cannot say.

What I think is truly despicable is how certain so-called conservatives would use this great event as a club to beat liberals, as if liberals are somehow unpatriotic and in love with evil tyrants. It does a great disservice to the American, British, and other soldiers who died so that this day could come to use it this way. Just as it did a great disservice to those who died in the WTC attacks to use their memories to justify a war that, in the end, has nothing whatsoever to do with them. Given that this ultimate denigration of the memory of dead Americans was perpetrated by our neoconservative leader, I guess it is not surprising that other neoconservatives would follow his example. Way to go.

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posted December 14, 2003 04:15 PM         

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Originally posted by Goaswerfraiejen:

Indeed. Apparently, anyway.

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It could be 50/50

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posted December 14, 2003 04:34 PM            

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Originally posted by PlasteredDragon:
Just as it did a great disservice to those who died in the WTC attacks to use their memories to justify a war that, in the end, has nothing whatsoever to do with them.

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I guess Saddam should have followed those UN guidelines the first time, or at least the second time, even the third time. Definately the fourth time.

Don't worry, though. Saddam will get a trial.

Oh and I support our Constitution and therefore support our President. I hope this doesn't make me a bad person in anyone's eyes.

posted December 14, 2003 04:47 PM            

As far as the UN guidelines go, I don't believe we've seen evidence of a lack of compliance yet. Maybe once WMD are found, I'll agree.

As for what you said about the WTC and Saddamn, klucks, I hate to tell you, but Saddam wasn't threatening the US. Unless you mean his very presence constituted a threat. in which case, the US should just invade the rest of the world, because we constitute an enormous threat.

posted December 14, 2003 04:54 PM            

And, aside from general nervousness that this won't change anything -- and I agree, it won't change much -- I don't see anyone, above, arguing to the contrary.

But then there is this, which shows us just how rapidly political differences can escalate into violence and eliminationism:

You are finished. Today Saddam, tomorrow the French, and then the Democrats. You have no where to go, but hide in a cellar like your lover Saddam. {Not taken from here, but draw an appropriate parallel - Z}

In spite of the fact that, just as always, nobody on the left is praising Saddam -- even the most skeptical of posters appears to be agreeing the capture is good news -- this mind continues to invent an imaginary enemy. The mind at work here is one which cannot -- or at least, does not choose to -- distinguish between Saddam and Democrats.

These are the people who will be working on the side of the far-far-right, in the coming year. What does this person want to happen? What is this person willing to do, himself, to make it happen? Winning an election doesn't sound like enough -- there has to be killing involved.

If there is a "negative" side to the capture of Saddam, it will only be in what it inspires fringe elements of the ultra-right to do. Anthrax? Cyanide? Worse?

Mock people like this Travis fellow if you what... but realize, they are more dangerous than they appear, because their world view -- in which they must hate "Democrats", or "liberals", or whoever their enemy is -- is entirely independent of what you actually say or do. You could dance on Saddam's dismembered corpse in your golf shoes, and they would still be enraged that you got all touchy-feely with him.

Forget the nightmare of another four years of GWB -- just imagine the rage will happen amongst these people if GWB loses the next election. What would they do, if their hero was defeated by the will of the people?

posted December 14, 2003 04:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Goaswerfraiejen:
As for what you said about the WTC and Saddamn, Laura, I hate to tell you, but Saddam wasn't threatening the US. Unless you mean his very presence constituted a threat. in which case, the US should just invade the rest of the world, because we constitute an enormous threat.

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Sarcastic statement (I can't seem to make a post without one these days. I blame finals.)

I guess I shouldn't really care too much though. I live in Wisconsin. It's almost as safe as France. No one would drop a bomb up here. I shouldn't be concerned at all.

posted December 14, 2003 05:21 PM            

I'd go for that. Makes everyone happy.

posted December 14, 2003 05:28 PM            

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Originally posted by PlasteredDragon:

"Tough day to be a liberal!" But apparently it's a great day to be a complete moron. Congratulations deathling, it's [b]YOUR DAY! If you had a second braincell to rub against the first one, you might be able to discover fire next.
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Ah, you are just upset because this basically makes Bush a lock in 2004. This is quite a blow to your lovely candidate Mr. Dean. Deep inside I think you know that.

Anyways I'm glad you agree this is a great event for the world.

The next step is to find the WMD (maybe Saddam can help us out there).

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posted December 14, 2003 05:28 PM            

Now, if they had caught him in, say, October, that would be bad.

What Bush should have had the troops do is corner him until then, and then pull him out about two weeks before the election.

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posted December 14, 2003 05:29 PM         

is anyone else worried how bush is going at things?

I'm worried that he is taking a lesson from 1984 and trying to create a state of perpetual war, and then he'll do something to make him president for a long time....

very unlikely, but intentional or not, thats kind of how things are shaping....

posted December 14, 2003 05:41 PM            

Hehe, Saddam could go do a robot techno dance, flip off everyone and then self-detonate a weapon of mass destruction weapon hidden deep within his beard? I would find it funny anyway.

Maybe the capture of Saddam will increase the morale of the soldiers. That means they become even more careless than they are now, whether they are being killed by each other or killing soldiers. Ironic, eh.

Nevermind, rant concludes now.

or now.

posted December 14, 2003 05:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Greven53:
Hehe, Saddam could go do a robot techno dance, flip off everyone and then self-detonate a weapon of mass destruction weapon hidden deep within his beard? I would find it funny anyway.

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posted December 14, 2003 05:52 PM            

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Originally posted by MagicMystic:
Ya gotta wonder how they actually know this is Sadaam. After all, he did have what, 20 guys who looked exactly like him in every way. And unless I'm mistaken, we never had any DNA or anything like that.

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Saddam H, used to go in for medical treatment at us hospitals. Thats where they got the dna samples

heres my rant for the day
The man was living in a whole... His two sons are dead, and he's obviously not calling the shots anymore (sure he killed many in his lifetime, but so has Bush now) (do I somehow feel sorry for the guy? NO. Does he deserve it? YES. BUT LOOK AT THE FACTS). What the heck does it matter that we've caught him? Were not yet finished in Iraq. In fact this will only allow the US gov't to deter the press from reporting additional articles on Iraq to simply hide the fact that we messed up big time here. We went in with no evidence and "liberated" a country and then made them pay us back to rebuild it. All the while we claimed that there were Weapons of Mass Destruction in holdings somewhere and that we had a right to invade them somehow (a sidenote we did back out of the ballistic treaty this year (the irony))

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.... The man who waged and lost two wars against the United States and its allies ....

End QUOTE:

First off, Saddam didnt WAGE two wars against the United States. Both times his country was invaded, and at least this time, he didnt invade anyone to provoke it.

The United States has a history of going to war and then ending that war with ecconomic recovery. See WWI and WWII. Bush and his "advisors" were simply putting the military machine to work, and it hasnt accomplished much except for devalue the dollar and put the defecit at an amazing level.

Even Goldman-Sacks was quoted saying that Bush was undoubtedly compromising the very legitimacy of our currency at its current state.

Honestly anyone who comes on here and says:

YEAH BUSH WINS 2004 ELECTION, has no idea that there are many more parts to being president other than military "victories", if you could even call this a victory.

Bush has destroyed relationships with countries that were for so long our allies, and will continue to do so with his ignorant ways.

Seriuosly its a two way street and theres pros and cons of being both republican and democrat right now (neither canidate is looking good right now) (dean vs bush...hmm)

I have voted Republican in my state and local elections, however this man seriously makes me wonder how stooooooopid is too stupid. Deathing?? any comments ?