posted December 15, 2003 05:17 PM            

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Originally posted by roberto8k:
Bush has explicitly stated that he wants Saddam to face an Iraqi court, which I think is as good an idea as any.

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Has he? Okay, then.

The outcome still won't be any different. Who'll speak up in his defence? Many of those who might have done so are dead, most of the others are hunted. I don't think it can quite be a fair and equitable trial.

But of course, we all know what is wanted in the end. A trial just makes it seem mroe legal.

posted December 15, 2003 05:19 PM         

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Originally posted by Goaswerfraiejen:
But of course, we all know what is wanted in the end. A trial just makes it seem mroe legal.

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no, I dont know.
what is wanted in the end?

posted December 15, 2003 05:25 PM            

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Originally posted by NightDog:
no, I dont know.
what is wanted in the end?

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Hussein's head on the butcher's block.

posted December 15, 2003 05:27 PM            

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Originally posted by NightDog:
no, I dont know.
what is wanted in the end?

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Yes, indeed, that's the good question: now, WHAT?

Try him and sentence him to death and you're just like he his: killing people who don't think like you. Besides, you make him a martyr of the Jihad, which is far from being a good idea.

Torture him?(like scrotching his skin and playing to duct-tape him and unduct-tape him?), honestly disgusting ...

Keep him in jail forever? yeah, only "democratic" solution but it sounds a bit sweet for what he did, isn't it?

I feel like being in front of a soufflé who just blew down ...

posted December 15, 2003 05:31 PM            

The ends never justify the means. I've heard people say off and on that they aren't satisfied with the officially alleged reasons the war started but believe it was OK because of the good that it accomplished, and for that I say horse****.

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posted December 15, 2003 05:56 PM         

He has been granted a $6M 5-year contract with Mars to market their product.

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posted December 15, 2003 06:00 PM            

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Originally posted by HanSolo6385:
This just in: "Saddam Hussein the new spokesman for Mars bars."

He has been granted a $6M 5-year contract with Mars to market their product.

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Somehow, when Bush told us to buy more stuff after 9/11/2001, I don't think that's what he was talking about.

posted December 15, 2003 06:59 PM         

Saddam: BOB! Why are you eating my yogurt?

BoB: I am not eating your yogurt. In fact, your yogurt is eating me.

Saddam: oh bob, you're so silly.

posted December 15, 2003 10:02 PM            

On second thouht, I don't care about his fate. But I do think that he makes a better facist than he will a prison inmate.

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posted December 16, 2003 03:10 AM            

Dean will lose on his own merits, or lack thereof.

Saddam had nothing to do with the attacks on the World Trade Center.

Iraq can try Saddam for things that the USA cannot, so it makes more sense to prosecute him there.

Both the hard left and hard right look as rediculous as usual.

There's next to nothing to discuss about the capture itself, but you can bet we'll get plenty of discussion material from the handling of this in the future.

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posted December 16, 2003 05:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Charles Ensign:
Dean will lose on his own merits, or lack thereof.

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I would really like to know why it is a foregone conclusion that Dean will lose?

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posted December 16, 2003 06:39 AM            

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Originally posted by PlasteredDragon:
I would really like to know why it is a foregone conclusion that Dean will lose?

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This is what I'd expect to hear:

posted December 16, 2003 07:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Zoelef!:
This is what I'd expect to hear:

a = 1;
while (a > 0)
{
cout << "Dean is McGovern." << endl;
a++;
}

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While I would expect that kind of canned response from wagamer or deathling, I know CharlesEnsign will have a well thought out opinion based on reason. I may disagree with that opinion (after all we disagree on Libertarianism) but at least I'll hear an intelligent opinion that I can give serious consideration to. I have a great deal of respect for him.

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posted December 16, 2003 07:41 AM            

kill 1 person get prison/or death
kill 20 get insane asylum
kill 200,00+ get political asylum

posted December 16, 2003 08:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Erl00:

Try him and sentence him to death and you're just like he his: killing people who don't think like you.

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No...we're killing someone who has killed thousands. That's called justice. If he hadn't killed a lot of people, then maybe someone could say we just are killing him because he doesn't think like us, but this is plain and simple capital punishment. Besides, it's the Iraqis who will decide, so it's not like it's the US killing the PoS, it's the people who he treated like something to scrape off of his shoe.

posted December 16, 2003 08:30 AM         

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posted December 16, 2003 08:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Valmtg:

Saddam will be tried for crimes against humanity and be put to death. It'll be the biggest Pay-Per-View ever. He'll die in his own country but he will not be remembered as being a great and victorious leader.

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We could do it at a star studded USO show staring Big --- Al and Winnona Rider!

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posted December 16, 2003 09:01 AM            

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Originally posted by potm:
hey by the way.. speaking of Bush right? Remember that picture with the turkey and the troops around it on thxgiving? I don't know if it's old news (I assume it is anyway), but you people knew the turkey was a fake propaganda-turkey right?

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Fake propaganda turkey? I like that phrase.

Dude, it's called a centerpiece. No one tried to claim that Bush was serving it to anyone, and I hardly think that him holding it in a photo constitutes propaganda. Just seems like more people seizing any possible opportunity to criticize Bush.

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posted December 16, 2003 09:15 AM            

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Originally posted by potm:
hey by the way.. speaking of Bush right? Remember that picture with the turkey and the troops around it on thxgiving? I don't know if it's old news (I assume it is anyway), but you people knew the turkey was a fake propaganda-turkey right?

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posted December 16, 2003 09:32 AM         

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Originally posted by Wagamer:
He's a politician, propaganda is his job.
So what's the big deal?

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The guy is flat-out lying and pretending, I don't know about you but I wouldn't want my president to be like that.

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posted December 16, 2003 09:33 AM            

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Originally posted by PlasteredDragon:
I would really like to know why it is a foregone conclusion that Dean will lose?

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Dean has gained traction in the polls because his stance against the war. Saddam's capture is a huge boost from those who agreed with the war. Dean can be made to appear that he would have preferred Saddam still be in power. This will not fly with middle America. Ergo, Dean looses. Agree or disagree with the war, that's what it boils down to in a nutshell. Iraq = going well = Bush landslide.