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caquaa
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posted August 22, 2010 05:46 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for caquaa Click Here to Email caquaa Send a private message to caquaa Click to send caquaa an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View caquaa's Trade Auction or SaleView caquaa's Trade Auction or Sale
quote:
Originally posted by wayne:
I wish MTGO had draft tournaments that lasted more than 3 rounds frequently.

that no one gets to join because they fill days in advance? Yah, tho seem fun.... except I haven't got to play in one. Wish there was some way they could do more/less then 64. I know the math just works and they can't just double it and such so not sure what other solution there would be.

 
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What's better in the cube, lotus cobra or primeval titan? Both seems meh, I think the cobra might better. I have a titan and debating whether to trade it for a cobra or not. If anyone has played with either, please let me know, thanks
 
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quote:
Originally posted by fluffycow:
What's better in the cube, lotus cobra or primeval titan? Both seems meh, I think the cobra might better. I have a titan and debating whether to trade it for a cobra or not. If anyone has played with either, please let me know, thanks

That's entirely up to you, the people you play with and what your cube looks like.

Which means the answer is obviously: keep the titan.

 
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I have 10 fetches in my cube, and still not sure if I'd want cobra in or not. Having 2-3 fetches in your deck is okay, but cobra is really only good as a 4 of with 10 fetches in your deck I'd think. I'm not sure titans are good enough, hah. Cube is brokez, but it does depend on your setup too. Powered vs non makes a dif I'd assume.


Anyone know what sort of trend MTGO pack prices follow, if any? Bots are currently buying M11 packs for 4 tix, last I was on they were buying for 3.3 tix. Why the sudden demand?
I won a pair of 8-4 tonight, was pleasant surprise to turn them over for more then I thought I would.
My first draft
https://sites.google.com/site/caquaasmtgdrafts/08222010
so many "bad" picks, but a pair of mind controls seems to do the trick...


[Edited 1 times, lastly by caquaa on August 22, 2010]

 
wayne
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quote:
Originally posted by caquaa:
that no one gets to join because they fill days in advance? Yah, tho seem fun.... except I haven't got to play in one. Wish there was some way they could do more/less then 64. I know the math just works and they can't just double it and such so not sure what other solution there would be.


Have more of them? Although that might see almost every flock to them and neglect the other PEs/DEs.

 
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So I've been playing at the side events at U.S. Nationals all weekend long. I'm not a real tournament player, but I couldn't pass up a chance to play Magic for 4 days straight only 20 minutes from home. Here's some of the memorable stuff.

Day 1 - I play in two grinders, not really expecting to get anywhere. To give you a clue as to how confident I was about winning, if I did somehow win, I'd have to dash home to my internet connection and netdeck something I can build for the standard portion of Nationals since I have no standard deck built. I end up with draft pools that each have one bomb rare and nothing else notable. I lose in the second round of each event. Not spectacular by any means, but a definite improvement over my performance at GP Minneapolis where I lost twice in grinders in the first round.

Day 2 - I play the Magic Cruise qualifier, a "Standard Sealed event". You get 8 packs, one each of the 8 sets currently in standard to make your deck. It makes for some silliness. The cards I registered before passing included Joraga Warcaller and no other Elves. It also included Knight Exemplar and 4 other knights. Black Knight, White Knight, Dragonsoul Knight, and Outrider of Jhess.
LOWLIGHT
- My rares include both Iona and Linvala, but I have only 2 other playable white spells in the entire pool. - I ended up having to play a Bur concoction. Black for creatures, splash red for removal, splash blue for flyers/counters. It looked OK and ran fine, but I still went 1-2 and drop.
Then I did an 8-man single elim. draft losing in round 1.
I played in FNM and went 2-2. LOWLIGHT - Lost in round 4 when, up 1-0 in game 2, I sent my green army crashing into the red zone only to run into Safe Passage. Next turn, I play my Overwhelming Stampede and send again, this time for lethal. And he has a second Safe Passage! - A White Knight and Roc Egg stall my ground game long enough for his air force to arrive, and that was it.

Day 3 - I start with another Standard Sealed, this time with X-Boxes as the top prizes. I build a BGR deck with decent removal and a fair amount of beef. It goes 2-2. HIGHLIGHT We get well into game 3 round 3, and we each have 7 lands. His only creature flies, mine doesn't, and he's ahead in life, so he decides to all-in race. I topdeck land number 8, play Yavimaya Wurm and follow with a kicked Goblin Bushwhacker. An attack with everything takes him from 14 to 1. He has to push his reset button, Destructive Force. My deck responds by drawing me land. He gets a creature, I Dark Temper it. He gets a creature, my deck gives me Malfegor. He attacks, and my deck gives me the Swamp I need to cast Malfegor, discarding my one card in hand to make him sacrifice his creature. Faced with elimination, he topdecks Terminate! and Malfegor is gone. I go to the well once more and find THE answer. Magma Phoenix hits the board. He reads it and realizes he can't even remove it without dying, and gives me the handshake.
My first draft starts by opening an Ancient Hellkite and nothing else P1P1. Red remains open, but nothing else is open except blue. So I end up going RU with some burn and counters and several flyers. I also end up with two Leyline of Anticipation that were floating around in Pack 3, so I decide to play them. Both games I open with a decent hand including a Leyline, so I end up playing the whole match essentially as Draw-Go with a handful of combat tricks. It didn't help, as my opponents deck was so much better that even with the Leyline totally messing with his combat math he took the match 2-0. But it was the most fun I have ever had while losing 2-0.
My last draft took an odd right turn. P1P1 Royal Assassin. P1P2 Overwhelming Stampede as black is dry. Green remained really open, and black stayed closed, so I ended up mono-green. Two Elves, two Visionaries, three Companions for ramp and early beats, and seven CMC 5+ beatsticks to finish. A few tricks, and three Naturalizes for the sideboard. My opponent was the last to arrive back at the playtable after building his deck, and ended up leaving after losing 2-0 before any other match had finished game 1. Round 2 I powered through my opponent game 1 again. Game 2 he got a pair of Pacifisms on my beatsticks, and a Water Servant was too strong for my elves. My deck was 17 forest 23 spells, but had been giving me a lot of mana. So I swapped in my Acidic Slime for a Spined Wurm, and straight up added the three Naturalizes, making 17 land and 26 spells. This seemed to be working well as I was curving well, and I had the fun of Naturalizing his Sword of Vengeance, his first Pacifism on my Yavimaya Wurm and then his second Pacifism on that same Wurm. LOWLIGHT - But then my deck betrayed me. With 9 land and 16 spells remaining, my deck gave me 4 consecutive land while he built his defenses. With me staring down lethal air power next turn, that's when my deck decided to grant me Overwhelming Stampede. Two turns sooner, or if I had got a couple more creatures along the way, it would have won. But it was too little, and definitely too late.

Day 4 - Two more drafts. Went 1-1 in the first one, nothing memorable. Went 0-1 in the second one, and ended the weekend on a WOW moment. I drafted Wg. Eight white fliers and some removal, splashed green for 2 Giant Growths, Hornet Sting, and 2 Spined Wurm. My opponent is UR. I won Game 1 on the strength of my air force. I board in Celestial Purge and Naturalize since I saw Ice Cage. Game 2 he gets Prodigal Pyromancer and Chandra's Spitfire to render my airforce ineffective, and three Servants (Fire, Earth, Water) to chew me up on the ground. Game three starts really well for me. I get Squadron Hawk and fetch my other one, putting it out on turn 3. He gets Spitfire. I draw Purge, missing land drop #4. With 2 Cloud Crusader and 2 Seige Mastodon in hand, I Purge the Spitfire and keep up the pressure in the air. I get Plains #4, send the Hawks and cast Crusader. Crusader meets Ice Cage, and I get no land, so I send the Hawks and make the second Crusader. He gets Land #5 and makes Berserkers of Blood Ridge. My deck likes me, and gives me a Forest to cast the Spined Wurm I drew last turn. Send the airforce. I trade the Wurm for the Berserkers, he plays land #6 and Fire Servant. I get no help, but make a Mastodon to block the servant and send the airforce once more. HIGHLIGHT - I lost the game next turn. Doesn't really seem like a highlight, but it was the way I lost that was the highlight. He played land #7, then played Lava Axe and Reverberate on the Axe. With the Fire Servant doubling the damage from each spell, I took 20 to the face and was done. It was a fitting end to my weekend.

TL;DR - I went to U.S. Nationals for the side events, posted mediocre finishes in all my events, and nonetheless had a great time playing.

 
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Wall if text but I enjoyed reading even if you had bad results. Sounds like you had fun.
 
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We played our first Two-Headed Giant tournament this weekend, and things went really well. We announced a couple weeks before that we would be doing random teams to prevent people (read Nderwife and I, and a couple other of the top players) from getting together and making complementary decks and ensuring everyone had a chance at doing well. We had 16 people show up (though I was sweating it at 2 minutes before the tourney until one last player showed up to make sure we all got to play) which is one of the better turnouts we have had, which is great for a Sunday. Turns out I got paired with another of the better players and we had decks that worked well together, me with Stallapalooza for board control, him with white Knights for aggro, and surprisingly, no overlap on what we ran so no problems with having too many of any card. Apart from a really close game against Nderwife and her partner who made enough play mistakes to cost them the draw if not the win, as we ran out of time, and won on the very last turn before it became a draw, we had some good games but always managed to finish strong after getting a bit roughed up by aggro.

I'm thinking about building another Vampires deck for next time. I really need something that can hold up well on it's own, since I really never know who I'll get teamed up with from one tourney to the other.

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Planning to buy a box, wondering what set I should get.

M11 has lots of goodies, and a lot of crap.
Zendikar has fetchlands.
WW has Jace, and crap.

If I'm looking to get the most trade value from a box, what should I buy?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by simpleenigma:

* I will video record myself opening your envelope in case an issue arises. You are more than welcome to record yourself opening my envelopes.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Thanos:

lol, yeah. I guess I was wary of getting burned on my first trade too... that seems a little extreme though.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by airwalk:
Planning to buy a box, wondering what set I should get.

You should get M11. It's the newest set and people want the cards from there the most of the sets you mentioned.

 
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Five for five for opening a Titan in pack 3 that I did not play.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by wayne:
Five for five for opening a Titan in pack 3 that I did not play.

So did you pick the Titans?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by wayne:
Five for five for opening a Titan in pack 3 that I did not play.

in all the numerous drafts I've done on mtgo I've opened only a frost titan and the only time I've played it, it was promptly mind controlled.

I did get a P3P2 Primeval titan tho

 
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quote:
Originally posted by caquaa:

I did get a P3P2 Primeval titan tho

I guess that's the guy who opened the foil Baneslayer in your draft : D

 
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quote:
Originally posted by gaeacradle:
So did you pick the Titans?


Yes for the Primeval Titans

 
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quote:
Originally posted by -PoX-:
I guess that's the guy who opened the foil Baneslayer in your draft : D


A Primeval Titan is worth almost double a foil Baneslayer in MTGO.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by wayne:

A Primeval Titan is worth almost double a foil Baneslayer in MTGO.

Well I don't play MTGO :,(

 
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Am I reading this wrong?

quote:
New seller with ZERO refs:

Refs >10 -Pay first
refs <10 - can argue sending first


So, if you have lots of refs and are an experienced trader, you get the privilege of sending payment first to a guy with no refs? And if you're relatively new, only then will he consider sending first?

 
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To all the Economists out there.
Will Alara cards drop down considerably this October? main cards I'm asking about are: Rafiq $4, dauntless escort $3, maelstrom pulse $10, bloodbraid elf $3?? do you see some of these hitting the $1 mark?
 
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I find that cards that rotate lose about 30 to 50% of their value if they're good cards. 50 to 80% if they're just crap. At least within the first couple weeks to couple months. Anything with value in Extended/Legacy begins to rise after that.

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quote:
Originally posted by yakusoku:
Am I reading this wrong?

So, if you have lots of refs and are an experienced trader, you get the privilege of sending payment first to a guy with no refs? And if you're relatively new, only then will he consider sending first?


No. In fact, I encourage you to go read my response

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Kinda depressing not to go 3-0 when you think you have a good deck, Magic is so random at times.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by wayne:
Kinda depressing not to go 3-0 when you think you have a good deck, Magic is so random at times.

what happened?

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