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Originally posted by Brightcab:
I see a combo. 10 mana + Genesis Wave.

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Harabaz Druid+Crab Umbra+Allies+Genesis Wave

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Why not just play it in Elves!?

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Originally posted by OGB:
Why not just play it in Elves!?

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Molten Psyche
Sorcery
Each player shuffles the cards from his or her hand into his or her library, then draws that many cards.

What made Wheel of Fortune good was that you could empty out your hand and play Wheel. If your opponent is playing a slower deck than you, that's even better.

So, you might have a situation like this:

You: Land, creature1
Opponent: Land, go
You: Attack with creature1, land, creature2, creature3
Opponent: Land, go
You: Land, attack with creature1, 2, and 3, burn1, burn2
Opponent: Land, spell
You: Land, Wheel of Fortune. Your opponent has 6 cards (assuming the spell wasn't a draw spell) and you have 0 cards while Wheel in on the stack. He gets to draw one net card, while you draw 7.

This is an extreme example, but it's this kind of thing that really made Wheel shine. It also works similarly in combo decks where you play a bunch of mana producers then Wheel and draw a new 7.

You don't even discard the cards with Molten psyche, so you can draw them right back and you can't take advantage of discarding cards to your graveyard that you want, like creatures with Dredge or spells with flashback.

Creature - Ooze
As long as Necrotic Ooze is on the battlefield, it has all activated abilities of all creature cards in all graveyards.

This card is limited in it's abilities because it is still called Necrotic ooze. Look at Molten tail Masticore, the card that goes great with Ooze.

It says Molten Tail Masiticore deals 4 damage to any target and regenerate Molten Tail Masiticore.

Does this mean that MTM would do nothing with the ooze because it is not called MTM? It should get the abilities like from Royal Assassin because it just says destroy target tapped creature and not Royal Assassin destroys target creature.

Same with Sphinx of Magosi. You would draw a card, but not put a +1/+1 counter on Necrotic Ooze because it is not called Sphinx of Magosi.

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Originally posted by yakusoku:
Molten Psyche is not even close to being Wheel of Fortune.

What made Wheel of Fortune good was that you could empty out your hand and play Wheel. If your opponent is playing a slower deck than you, that's even better.

So, you might have a situation like this:

You: Land, creature1
Opponent: Land, go
You: Attack with creature1, land, creature2, creature3
Opponent: Land, go
You: Land, attack with creature1, 2, and 3, burn1, burn2
Opponent: Land, spell
You: Land, Wheel of Fortune. Your opponent has 6 cards (assuming the spell wasn't a draw spell) and you have 0 cards while Wheel in on the stack. He gets to draw one net card, while you draw 7.

This is an extreme example, but it's this kind of thing that really made Wheel shine. It also works similarly in combo decks where you play a bunch of mana producers then Wheel and draw a new 7.

You don't even discard the cards with Molten psyche, so you can draw them right back and you can't take advantage of discarding cards to your graveyard that you want, like creatures with Dredge or spells with flashback.

Wheel of Fortune is card advantage in the right situation; Molten Psyche is always card DISadvantage. You do get to do player burn, but player only burn tends to be pretty unplayable. You could potentially get 5-7 damage off with this, but there have been other spells that deal damage equal to the number of cards in a player's hand that just haven't worked well enough to be more than a cute rogue strategy that catches a player off guard game one.

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Originally posted by gcowhsu:

This card is limited in it's abilities because it is still called Necrotic ooze. Look at Molten tail Masticore, the card that goes great with Ooze.

It says Molten Tail Masiticore deals 4 damage to any target and regenerate Molten Tail Masiticore.

Is this an issue or is there a rule that says when a card refers to itself it can be replaced with this?

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It's not as limited as you think. Any activated abilities referencing the card itself really mean *this permanent*. So, if you had a Drudge Skeletons in your graveyard, your Necrotic Ooze has an ability that you can pay B to regenerate it, despite the fact that Drudge Skeletons says "B: regenerate Drudge Skeletons".

However, it won't get any triggered or static abilities of creatures, so if you have a Sphinx of Jwar Isle and a Razormane Masticore in your graveyard, your Necrotic Ooze will not have Flying, Shroud, or First Strike and you will not be able to deal 3 damage to a creature or look at the top card of your library. You also won't have to discard a card to keep it on the battlefield.

If you have a Sphinx of Magosi in your graveyard, you would draw a card AND put a +1/+1 counter on Necrotic Ooze when you use its activated ability.

http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/article.aspx?x=mtg/tcg/scarsofmirrodin/spoiler[/QUOT E]

Not very impressed.

3 cards worth $40 then a bunch of nothing.

I think that's my overall view of the set as a whole.

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Originally posted by daner:

Not very impressed.

3 cards worth $40 then a bunch of nothing.

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OK srsly, why are there flying eels in this set?

The art in this set rools! Anyone do card altering? I need to get a Plated Seastrider with Pink Floyd hammers. PM me if you can draw on stuff.

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Originally posted by DerangedHermit:
So basically Rise?

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So that means we can get non-mythic staple rares for similarly low prices? I'm okay with that. I got a playset of Celestial Colonnades and Raging Ravines for U/W control and Jund really cheap because everyone was buying boxes for Jace and selling everything else.

I'd like to get a playset of Leonin Arbiters for the same price as WWK man-lands.

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Originally posted by daner:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by thror:
Full spoiler up and running:

http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/article.aspx?x=mtg/tcg/scarsofmirrodin/spoiler[/QUOT E]

Not very impressed.

3 cards worth $40 then a bunch of nothing.

Oh well, it's better than core set drafting.

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So all you care about is the price of cards not enjoying playing?

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Originally posted by yakusoku:

Jazarary is awesome (well, we all knew that already) and now I can see the full spoiler.

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Awww Yaku, you made me blush. I'm glad I could help!

Thanks,
Jazaray

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Originally posted by yakusoku:
I'd like to get a playset of Leonin Arbiters for the same price as WWK man-lands.

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Originally posted by gaeacradle:
Don't forget the new lands too! They're pre-selling between $3-4, which is awesome.

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Yeah, I actually preordered some from SCG for $3.50 each. I think they are comparable, if not better than, the M10/M11 lands, which used to be like $6 each. Granted, there will be more Scars opened than M10 or M11, but I still think they'll be pretty good!

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
So all you care about is the price of cards not enjoying playing?

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Well, the set doesn't look all that impressive to draft either. It's def better than a core set, it just looks like Rise 2.0 to me. It's going to run out of fun in 2 weeks time.

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Originally posted by Valor007:
Did a couple sims tonight of sealed with some friends and proxied decks.
So far i'll say tempo infect seems nasty and ezuri's brigade is an absolute monster.
Also, for my money, best unc. is the 3-3 black for 4 that gives 3 -1/-1 counters, absolute house.

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My assessment is that U/W aggro seems good if you get it. Same with R/W aggro and U/R aggro. Also, funny FurnaceCelebration.dec seems fun if you get it. Considering 2 damage kills most creatures, load up on a bunch of spellbombs.