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that ooze is straight up ridiculous...
 
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I really hope trinket mage isn't the best non-planeswalker card in scars....

[Edited 1 times, lastly by thror on September 16, 2010]
 
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quote:
Originally posted by thror:
I really hope trinket mage isn't the best non-planeswalker card in scars....

Um, Elspeth Tirel is really looking hot...(the card, not the artwork). Wouldn't mind picking her up...

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quote:
Originally posted by revenger:
Um, Elspeth Tirel is really looking hot...(the card, not the artwork). Wouldn't mind picking her up...

~Revenger


Hence the "non-planeswalker" qualifier.

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You know that trinket mage kind of sucks.

Here is what you can get
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?action=advanced&type=+[%22Artifact%22]&cmc=+=[1]|=[0]&format=+[%22Standard%22]

ooo basilisk collar!
The best card you could possibly get is maybe everflowing chalice or brittle effigy. Those are the "Best". Voltaic Key could be a sleeper, but so far it isn't a bomb.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by gcowhsu:
You know that trinket mage kind of sucks.

Here is what you can get
&cmc=+=[1]|=[0]&format=+[%22Standard%22]]http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/D efault.aspx?action=advanced&type=+[%22Artifact%22]&cmc=+=[1]|=[0]&format=+[%22Standard%22]

ooo basilisk collar!
The best card you could possibly get is maybe everflowing chalice or brittle effigy. Those are the "Best". Voltaic Key could be a sleeper, but so far it isn't a bomb.


What are you talking about? There are plenty of decent stuff to tutor for with trinket mage.
Chimeric Mass to beat your opponent down.
Memnite to trigger the Vengevines.
New Spellbomb to chump and draw extra card.

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quote:
Originally posted by junichi:
What are you talking about? There are plenty of decent stuff to tutor for with trinket mage.
Chimeric Mass to beat your opponent down.
Memnite to trigger the Vengevines.
New Spellbomb to chump and draw extra card.


-You can get real creatures that have the same mana cost as p/t, and lots of them have abilities. In addition they have creatures that have a p/t greater than the mana cost.
-Trinket mage and the 1/1 is an okay play to get vengevine back and it's in color for most vengevine decks. It may be the only reasonable play out of trinket mage.
-So you are going to play a card to get another card to play and activate to draw a card. Seems like a lot of effort just to draw a card. You can get the same effect with wall of omens. You could run the 1/1 spellbomb in UW control and no one would say anything, but Trinket Mage has no business being in that deck.

Extended looks slightly better with Pithing Needle, Executioner's capsule, and relic of progenitus

But you know what if a myr deck dominates the format because of trinket mage I'll say grats to you. My prediction is better than Eye of Ugin.


[Edited 3 times, lastly by gcowhsu on September 16, 2010]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by gcowhsu:
My prediction is better than Eye of Ugin.

Hey now, let's not go saying things we might regret later . What was it that guy said about Eye, 40 and 4 foils for a Lotus? lmao. Obviously in this format Trinket Mage will be good but I'm not convinced he will be as good as he was in Mirrodin. After all, he doesn't have a broken-as-hell card like Skullclamp to fetch up...yet.

Basilisk Collar is pretty hot. Maybe a UR build with sparkmages, TMs and Collars. But I'm not really a Standard guy so that could totally suck /shrug.

As for daner's post #300 in the previous thread:

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Man...I hope not in EDH. Both of those guys are mana intensive enough let alone adding a double B cc spell into your deck. Who would be your general?

I run a 5 color Reaper King artifact oriented deck with quite a few double mana symbol costs and I never have any problems casting them. 10 duals, 10 shocks, fetches, green forest fetch spells and a krosan verge are an excellent place to start in terms of mana base. You could even argue adding crucible would be valuable just for the ability to re-fetch and fix even more effectively. Not to mention that since you are playing 5 colors Bringers and Fist of Suns can make life so much easier.

As for the general, Karona would be pretty fun . I already have a 5 color deck but if I were to build another that would be my first choice. Horde of Notions would be the runner up but Karona creates waaaay more chaos!

[Edited 1 times, lastly by stab107 on September 16, 2010]

 
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Trinket Mage will get you Removal, Mana, a Dude (large or small) or a nice piece of equipment, in standard, And thats without knowing what the rest of the spell bombs do, for 3 on a 2/2 body. Sounds like a pretty good tutor to me.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by gcowhsu:
-You can get real creatures that have the same mana cost as p/t, and lots of them have abilities. In addition they have creatures that have a p/t greater than the mana cost.


I guess a beatstick that is searchable, anti sorcery speed removals, versatile in CC, and can attack your opponent on the same turn you play DoJ is not good enough for you.

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quote:
Originally posted by thror:
I really hope trinket mage isn't the best non-planeswalker card in scars....

A new Powder Keg is pretty high on the charts I would say. Sadly, this is another guaranteed $8 of loss since I already own four Kegs (and their price should drop from about 4ish).

 
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yea, new keg is strictly better than old keg. Oh well not much of a loss, old keg wasnt worth anything anyway.

but anyway, Powder Keg back in Standard!!??? wow things are about to get interesting. I may have to pick up a deck and play some good old type two.

 
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The new keg looks sick, i guess thats the answer to planeswalker they come up with after O-ring?
 
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I am pretty partial to the moriok artifact creature that nights whispers.... seems decent in limited
 
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New cycle of rare ally colored lands (RG for example):

Copperline Gorge
Land
Copperline enters the battlefield tapped unless
you control two or fewer lands.
T: Add R or G to your mana pool

[Edited 1 times, lastly by skizzikmonger on September 16, 2010]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
New cycle of rare ally colored lands (RG for example):

Copperline Gorge
Land
Copperline enters the battlefield tapped unless
you control two or fewer lands.
T: Add R or G to your mana pool


They look pretty terrible... : O

 
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Dual lands are good. Actual wording:

Enters the Battlefield tapped unless you control two or fewer OTHER lands (can etb untapped on turn3)

 
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
New cycle of rare ally colored lands (RG for example):

Copperline Gorge
Land
Copperline enters the battlefield tapped unless
you control two or fewer lands.
T: Add R or G to your mana pool


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Hand of the Praetors 3b

Creature-Zombie

Infest

All other creatures with Infest get +1/+1

When ever you cast a creature spell with infest, target player gets a poison counter

3/2


Seems pritty good but depends on how may Infest guy thay plan on puting in the set/block Maby go Bua with Proliferate but i could be wrong

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Is drafting poison the way to go?

I know it's early, but so far it seems like poison is a draft deck and myr dudes is a draft deck. Other thoughts?

 
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I sure hope infest is a good enough ability, I like those praetors.

EDIT: the art sufggest it should have had flying, oh well.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Myy on September 17, 2010]

 
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Hand of the Praetors and this guy could be fun.

GB Infect anybody?

[Edited 1 times, lastly by skizzikmonger on September 17, 2010]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Hand of the Praetors and this guy could be fun.

GB Infect anybody?


I wonder if there's a fling like effect that makes the creature deal the damage....

 
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anyone like Venser's journal? i think it might be good addition to a type 2 acc. mill deck? bit expensive but when holding a lot of cards from draw it might be a good staller?
 

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