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WeedIan
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http://www.wizards.com/magic/planeswalkerpoints

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/159b

Probably good for the game overall

 
MasterWolf
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I'll play FNMs again!
 
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posted September 06, 2011 11:19 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Ovinomancer Click Here to Email Ovinomancer Send a private message to Ovinomancer Click to send Ovinomancer an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Neat! I'm tired of listening to guys where i play complain about their rating if they lose a match...or not playing at all and leaving us short guys for a draft because they "want to protect their rating"
 
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I see this as a big upside for players, but not so much for TOs running large events. For example, players are likely to stay in the GP they just paid $30 for a lot longer if they don't have to worry about takning their rating. That means fewer side events firing off.

Of course, this could also boost PTQ attendance. If I'm reading this right, you could possibly Q for a PT just by playing in enough qualifiers. Even if you never win the whole thing, a string of T8 appearances could earn you an invite.

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hmm. anyone else having trouble logging in? My DCI number is coming up invalid.

Edit: nevermind. i was missing a digit lol

[Edited 1 times, lastly by dfitzg88 on September 06, 2011]

 
WeedIan
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The one guy i know who only plays FNMs is top 50 in the world for FNMs.

Likely because he plays 50 out of 52 weeks per year of fnms.

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Oh god the mothership forums are going to lose their **** over this

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quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
Oh god the mothership forums are going to lose their **** over this


They had **** to begin with?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Zakman86:
They had **** to begin with?

provided we're on the same page, good point.

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posted September 06, 2011 12:19 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for SageShadows Click Here to Email SageShadows Send a private message to SageShadows Click to send SageShadows an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Can anyone actually log on? I get stuck at the Terms and Agreement page.
 
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posted September 06, 2011 12:20 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for MagixDK Click Here to Email MagixDK Send a private message to MagixDK Click to send MagixDK an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
apparently im a level 41...

but what does that give me? couldnt figure that out.

am i still qualified for byes? how do i see this?


@sage: logging in took forever, i swapped browsers to get in. (worked in firefox)

[Edited 1 times, lastly by MagixDK on September 06, 2011]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by SageShadows:
Can anyone actually log on? I get stuck at the Terms and Agreement page.

It took a couple tries. My guess is server overload.

It's an interesting solution to the problem but a bit confusing. I'm curious why they'll stop awarding PT spots for placing high at a GP. Aside from the fact that they almost doubled the number of GPs essentially doubling the number of GP invites they give out I don't see why Top 8ing a GP only gets you points now.

For most people the only way they were going to get to a Pro Tour was to win a PTQ or have a good GP run and now you're only option is to win the PTQ.

Unless there is some kind of benefit that hasn't been announced or made clear for simply being a road warrior and grinding out points everywhere. Hit up an FNM on Friday, go to a PTQ, SCG Open, or GP on Saturday, find a mid-week draft or Legacy event and repeat.

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posted September 06, 2011 12:47 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for MagixDK Click Here to Email MagixDK Send a private message to MagixDK Click to send MagixDK an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
odds of one-shotting an event at getting to your first pro tour is harder.

sad i think. often a pro tour trip gets people deeper involved in magic

 
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Cursory inspection makes me think this is stupid. Ooh I'm level 32. I feel like a ****ing WoW character, and I hate WoW.

Edit coming after I read more.

edit: If it actually gets good players (who have been skipping them to "protect their ratings") off their asses to play in tournaments, then I can support it, even if it is ridiculous. Planeswalker points? Really? Lame

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WeedIan
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quote:
Originally posted by MagixDK:
odds of one-shotting an event at getting to your first pro tour is harder.

sad i think. often a pro tour trip gets people deeper involved in magic


But now you won't skip that PTQ if you are protecting your Nats rating.

I wonder how Nats rating will work, will they just take your ratings in Competitive from X date to X date and not include FNMs?

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MagixDK
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posted September 06, 2011 01:43 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for MagixDK Click Here to Email MagixDK Send a private message to MagixDK Click to send MagixDK an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
if your a wunderkind or something, you seem to have to grind infinite tournaments to qualify for anything.

winning isnt enough.

 
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wonder if there going to bring back some kind of rewards system
maybe an attendance award for going to X amount of tourneys every year or something
 
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posted September 06, 2011 01:46 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for MagixDK Click Here to Email MagixDK Send a private message to MagixDK Click to send MagixDK an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
for someone like me, who cant play two tournaments a week, due to work, family etc, advancing seems slow.

also i have a decent level, but nowhere can i see the relevance of that level.

does it matter if im level 1 or 41?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by MagixDK:
for someone like me, who cant play two tournaments a week, due to work, family etc, advancing seems slow.

also i have a decent level, but nowhere can i see the relevance of that level.

does it matter if im level 1 or 41?


It does not appear to matter. The things that seem to really matter are the yearly FNM/Competitve totals in terms of getting invites and everything.

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posted September 06, 2011 02:10 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for MagixDK Click Here to Email MagixDK Send a private message to MagixDK Click to send MagixDK an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
so if levels dont matter, why did they make em?

do they really think anyone will play more tounaments, just to brag that they are now level 45... (and that could be 500 tournaments to go from 44 to 45)

 
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quote:
Originally posted by MagixDK:

do they really think anyone will play more tounaments, just to brag that they are now level 45... (and that could be 500 tournaments to go from 44 to 45)

yes. Competitive nature and what not.

 
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posted September 06, 2011 03:22 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for stab107 Click Here to Email stab107 Send a private message to stab107 Click to send stab107 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
This whole system reminds me of the MMO grind. Not sure what else to say other than...Planeswalker Points? Seriously? Ugh.
 
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It kind of bothers me that the official publications use the word "is" before "Planeswalker Points." It seems like they should be using "are." For example, the FAQ asks "What is Planeswalker Points?" It just sounds weird! I understand that it's probably a legal deal whereby the program acts in the singular. It still feels wrong.

In other news, I'm excited to play events and not have to worry about losing rating points. This seems like an awesome move on the surface. Time will tell if this be true.

 
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It's interesting, but bugs me a bit. Rating was indicative of skill to some extent, and yes sitting out of events to protect your rating won't happen anymore, but TO's can schedule 1 on 1 events for their friends... who get participation points for those. Seems kind of skewed. Casual events shouldn't accrue ANY points at all imo. NM, i guess level doesn't matter, only FNM and Competative points.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Malice327:
It's interesting, but bugs me a bit. Rating was indicative of skill to some extent, and yes sitting out of events to protect your rating won't happen anymore, but TO's can schedule 1 on 1 events for their friends... who get participation points for those. Seems kind of skewed. Casual events shouldn't accrue ANY points at all imo. NM, i guess level doesn't matter, only FNM and Competative points.

You get 1 participation point for casual events. You get 6 points for 0-Xing an FNM.

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