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Originally posted by hilikuS:
I think maybe he means for EDH, and I agree with him if that's the case.

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Nothing wrong with another Fierce Empath. Only downside is that it doesn't get key creatures like Avenger or Terastodon.

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Originally posted by Havoc Demon:
Nothing wrong with another Fierce Empath. Only downside is that it doesn't get key creatures like Avenger or Terastodon.

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Well it can't do everything!

I'm really digging Ranger's Path too. With the apparent reprinting of Rav duals next block, that gets you 2 dual lands. I'm probably going to add it to my Kresh deck too, might even swap out Explosive Vegetation for it. I've always been a fan of Wood Elves because it can grab me a dual, and this is very similar.

Really diggin' the Rod of Nin too. Probably gonna put the Nine Inch Nails logo over the picture.

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Originally posted by thror:
Your next draw could have been any of those anyway.

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Originally posted by caquaa:
yep, thats why mystical tutor got banned in legacy; it was taking too much time to search and shuffle when the card was clearly on top of the deck already.

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lol. true.

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FNM Tormod's Crypt, sweet.

Sucks that clone is back, means image is almost certainly out.

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Sublime Archangel is super good!

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Originally posted by Heresy19:
Why is everyone in the other forums amazed by the new angel? I don't think it's THAT good :/

Is there something I'm missing?

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Originally posted by Heresy19:
Why is everyone in the other forums amazed by the new angel? I don't think it's THAT good :/

Is there something I'm missing?

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Because exalted triggers each time is what I'm thinking?
If you have Sublime and say 4-5 other creatures (tokens, whatever) and 1 creature attacks it gets pretty big.

Maybe, idk....

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Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
Because exalted triggers each time is what I'm thinking?
If you have Sublime and say 4-5 other creatures (tokens, whatever) and 1 creature attacks it gets pretty big.

Maybe, idk....

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Yes. Exalted stacks. That's why the angel will be nasty in aggro decks. IMO, it's an auto 4 of in BW Tokens and WX Humans.

(Off to magical christmas land for BW Tokens)

If all my tokens become Sublime Angels, they're still tokens right? So Intangible Virtue gives em Vigilance.

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Originally posted by hilikuS:
Does Exalted stack? So if I have a creature with Exalted, it has Exalted, Exalted when the angel is OTB? That would be pretty interesting.

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Yup.

Sublime Angel is Here. Linked because card text mentions a creature having multiple exalted.

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The best play would be angel turn 4 and then deranged hermit turn 5. If for some reason you have a bunch of non attacking creatures like grim lavamancer, birds of paradise, defenders, (ETC) then it could be good. Or for some reason you have a deck with a bunch of 1/1 tokens, Intangible virtue is better if you are going this rout. You will notice that it is better to attack with multiple creatures then one big one, unless it's Emrakul or Progenitus.

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Originally posted by phastings:
what a flavorless, low value nothing set. WOTC R+D is just cruising with reprints and flashy garbage mythics. They dont give a rip about keeping things interesting for the long time mtg players, they just want to draw in casual players and sell more product. Im guessing the R+D has been reduced to a couple over weight computer jockeys, who spend half their day playing WOW and reading paperback fantasy-romance novels. This set doesnt even look fun to draft.

I bet we get a sorcery speed counter spell to go along with all the other wannabe diamonds in my rough.

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Maybe it's time you quit then.

This is a core set. It's mostly there to support standard, not limited. Yes, we will have to play limited with it for a few events, but unless you magically know the other 100 cards in the set, nothing says it's going to be terrible.

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I quit giving money to WOTC(Hasbro) years ago, I only make a little money in the secondary market as a hobby, and draft/EDH/Legacy with interesting people. I am well aware this is what people have come to expect from core sets, but maybe you are too new or cant remember when sets really had ingenuity. The number of cards that get pulled from packs, never see play, and get bulked for lack of playability, has steadily increased over the years. It seems clear WOTC continues to dumb down the game mechanics, error on side of under powered/unplayable cards, to avoid banning or over favor a particular strategy. Dont get me wrong, balance in the meta is important, but instead of putting lots of work into making a powerful AND balanced game, they tone everything down,and fragment the sets/blocks so nothing gets dominant. Maybe this is what happens with there arent enough competitors to push innovation

So really w/e, I am not hugely affected, I just check the spoilers to see if anything is grossly undervalued. I can continue to draft out of print sets. I feel for all the new comers who get complacent with these unsatisfying morsels.

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What the **** are you talking about? Seriously. Core sets were entirely reprints all the way up until M10, at which point brand-new cards were even considered for the core set. You essentially have no idea what you are talking about. For christ's sake, people didn't even DRAFT core sets until M10. Are you next going to tell us that you were constantly drafting core sets back in the day?

As for your idiotic "power level" comments - Snapcaster, Griselbrand, and Delver are arguably the top of the food chain for legacy right now. All happen to be standard legal. 75% of the stock Maverick decklist has been printed in the last 3 years. Yeah, chaff sucks, but as long as the draft format is fun it's not a problem.