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CubFan81
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quote:
Originally posted by pugowar:
Ugh the M-lands are back. I guess it had to happen but geesh...

Which is just fine. They're well designed, and work well with any Shocklands that may be in Return to Ravnica.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by CubFan81:
Which is just fine. They're well designed, and work well with any Shocklands that may be in Return to Ravnica.

i kinda wanted the man lands but hey, the above is quite true and fine with me. I'm glad they didnt make new inferior lands.

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quote:
Originally posted by pugowar:
Ugh the M-lands are back. I guess it had to happen but geesh...

o was hopeing they would bring back the painlands

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quote:
Originally posted by counter_spell:
o was hopeing they would bring back the painlands

That's not happening. The reason they rotated out the painlands is because players really dislike paying life for mana for their spells. The Shards of Alara lands that entered the battlefield were highly popular compared to Caves of Koilos being reprinted.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by CubFan81:
Which is just fine. They're well designed, and work well with any Shocklands that may be in Return to Ravnica.

Expecting all 10 "M" lands and 10 "shock"-duals in the coming standard?

 
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and a functional reprint of Lord of Atlantis (your merfolk).

12 Lord Legacy Merfolk
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[Edited 2 times, lastly by WeedIan on June 26, 2012]

 
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Originally posted by WeedIan:

12 Lord Legacy Merfolk

What the H? merfolk already have a ton of playable lords AND they're blue.

I sure hope elves don't get another elvish archdruid, and we get a GG elf lord that's awesome.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by choco man:
Expecting all 10 "M" lands and 10 "shock"-duals in the coming standard?

In essence, yes. Their clues are as subtle as a hammer to the head. Farseek, Gem of Becoming, and Liliana 3.0 at the top. And in all likelihood they will stagger them among the 3 sets so it would only be a 4.5 month period with all 10 checklands and shocklands. They could do something else for M14 and it would all rotate in October 2014.

They've already said Return to Ravnica is a gold block. People like casting their spells so the mana fixing has to be up to par to make it worth playing anything.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Myy:
What the H? merfolk already have a ton of playable lords AND they're blue.

I sure hope elves don't get another elvish archdruid, and we get a GG elf lord that's awesome.

Elves is arguably a stronger legacy deck than merfolk. The new lord is simply dropping the curve a bit for legacy merfolk, which means you almost never need to go to 3 on vial. Gonna have to run some matches on cockatrice to see if the extra 2-drop makes a difference.

 
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So this Trading Post looks kinda cool. 4 mana probably leaves it out of competetive magic, but it looks like 4 options... very different options for that matter, make it look like a lot of fun.
 
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At least the price of Akroma's Memorial should drop a little bit

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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
At least the price of Akroma's Memorial should drop a little bit

and now you can get foil korean ones!

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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
At least the price of Akroma's Memorial should drop a little bit

As a Mythic... not 100% sure about that.

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Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
As a Mythic... not 100% sure about that.

More supply, same amount of demand, unless it shows up in a tier 1 standard deck.

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Love this Don't Wake Daddy Dragon here. Seems kinda bad, but I like it anyway. Even if you can't attack with it you can still sac it to the Bolas dude for 3 cards and 3 life. Not bad for one red.
 
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Could MBC make a comeback?
 
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Could MBC make a comeback?

Unless Phyrexian Arena and Cabal Coffers are also reprinted, I doubt it.

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Certainly a lot of plants for some sort of "swamps matters" deck in the RTR block, but I doubt it's going to be mono-color, and right now there are simply too many decks that don't care about a 4-mana conditional sweeper.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by thror:
and now you can get foil korean ones!

Yah, my first thought was "Awe.... my foil one is worth less now", then the light bulb went on and I considered the Korean option. Problem is, it'll be outside of my comfort zone for price.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Zeckk:
Elves is arguably a stronger legacy deck than merfolk. The new lord is simply dropping the curve a bit for legacy merfolk, which means you almost never need to go to 3 on vial. Gonna have to run some matches on cockatrice to see if the extra 2-drop makes a difference.

The extra Islandwalk probably does make a significant difference to the deck's performance. Whether that's enough for the current metagame is another question entirely. I haven't played competitively in a few months, so I'll refrain from commenting on that score.

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Salvation LOL

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Fungal Sprouting's quote is attributed to Ghave, Guru of Spores.

Anyone else thing that commander legends will be in the Return to Ravnica?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by keywacat:
Fungal Sprouting's quote is attributed to Ghave, Guru of Spores.

Anyone else thing that commander legends will be in the Return to Ravnica?

Nope....just general core flavor is all

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question - does the new merfolk lord make folk viable in modern? folk already have 4 lords in the format. 2cc does make it better then any ohters in cost but is islandwalk that much of a good thing in modern?
 
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