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Topic: Post For Magic Stuff #79
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Sovarius
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posted March 13, 2013 02:51 PM
        
There for the experience.But i am still there to win, too. I just don't approve of myself netdecking or borrowing decks. I don't mind losing for it, deck creation is part of playing magic for me. What i really mean for advice is the sideboard, because i don't understand the meta. Or i guess large tournaments in general. But not my poor deck choice.
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ryan2754
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posted March 13, 2013 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by Sovarius:
But i am still there to win, too. I just don't approve of myself netdecking or borrowing decks. I don't mind losing for it, deck creation is part of playing magic for me.
Amen.
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Pail42
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posted March 13, 2013 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by Sovarius:
What i really mean for advice is the sideboard, because i don't understand the meta. Or i guess large tournaments in general. But not my poor deck choice.
A good way to start learning the meta is to look up top deck lists from recent tournaments.
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dwiz
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posted March 13, 2013 06:34 PM
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Originally posted by Pail42:
A good way to start learning the meta is to look up top deck lists from recent tournaments.
I don't think 15 sideboard slots is enough to save you if you're playing Folk, but start with 3 or 4 torpor orb. You may not know the meta, but after game one you'll know when to throw these in.
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Sovarius
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posted March 13, 2013 07:31 PM
I've been checking out decklists enough to name drop the ones that consistently top-8, but i don't have a good knowledge of the key cards that hate on other decks.Torpor effective against a lot of decks?
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Zeckk
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posted March 13, 2013 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by Sovarius:
I've been checking out decklists enough to name drop the ones that consistently top-8, but i don't have a good knowledge of the key cards that hate on other decks.Torpor effective against a lot of decks?
Hoses twin, pod, and the aether vial value decks. Another good hoser is rest in peace, which hoses eggs, gifts, and some other fringe decks. Within UW (assuming you are playing UW folk, as that's the only list approaching competitive), you also have ethersworn canonist, thalia, and leyline of sanctity.
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iccarus
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posted March 13, 2013 07:37 PM
I really hope the Shadowmoor/Eventide filter lands show up in Modern Masters or M14. Some of them are just getting stupid expensive. Do they even see that much play in Modern?__________________
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Zeckk
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posted March 13, 2013 07:43 PM
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Originally posted by iccarus:
I really hope the Shadowmoor/Eventide filter lands show up in Modern Masters or M14. Some of them are just getting stupid expensive. Do they even see that much play in Modern?
Only cascade bluffs, mystic gate, and twilight mire see significant play. And by significant I mean 1 deck in each archetype uses 1 or 2 in the decklist. The demand for filterlands is much higher for EDH than constructed play.
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mattw
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posted March 13, 2013 09:48 PM
I wish I played during that block and had a bunch of those lands laying around.I personally think they are garbage. Tapping 2 lands for 2 mana.... seems like that could be done fairly easy enough with basics. I would just put in a couple more mana rocks rather than spend 10-15 bucks on a land that doesn't increase the amount of mana I can produce. With all that being said of course, I do own a Horde of Notions deck that has a $2000 mana base.
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caquaa
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posted March 13, 2013 10:37 PM
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Originally posted by mattw:
I personally think they are garbage. Tapping 2 lands for 2 mana.... seems like that could be done fairly easy enough with basics.
are you actually that bad? Or is this some savage troll?
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marlo213
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posted March 14, 2013 07:07 AM
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Originally posted by iccarus:
I really hope the Shadowmoor/Eventide filter lands show up in Modern Masters or M14. Some of them are just getting stupid expensive. Do they even see that much play in Modern?
They were expensive when they were T2 as well. I really wanted a set right after rotation but they were all like $6 (at least the enemy ones) and I just laughed and told myself to pick them up when they are at painland prices in a few years...still waiting
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Sovarius
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posted March 14, 2013 08:43 AM
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Originally posted by Zeckk:
Hoses twin, pod, and the aether vial value decks. Another good hoser is rest in peace, which hoses eggs, gifts, and some other fringe decks. Within UW (assuming you are playing UW folk, as that's the only list approaching competitive), you also have ethersworn canonist, thalia, and leyline of sanctity.
Rest in peace is planned for board. Not familiar with what Gifts deck does with graveyard? I am playing UW. Canonist seems to slow me down as well, what can i use that against? I'm thinking burn? Thalia is not a bad choice either.
Sanctity is good against
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stu55
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posted March 14, 2013 08:58 AM
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Originally posted by Sovarius:
I've been checking out decklists enough to name drop the ones that consistently top-8, but i don't have a good knowledge of the key cards that hate on other decks.Torpor effective against a lot of decks?
What are you playing?
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MAB_Rapper
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posted March 14, 2013 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by Sovarius:
Rest in peace is planned for board. Not familiar with what Gifts deck does with graveyard?
Gifts puts two cards to their hand and two to the Graeyard. Generally, they set up their whole combo using Gifts. Without a Graveyard to set it up, the deck can't win. __________________
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coasterdude84
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posted March 14, 2013 09:15 AM
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Originally posted by Sovarius:
Rest in peace is planned for board. Not familiar with what Gifts deck does with graveyard?I am playing UW. Canonist seems to slow me down as well, what can i use that against? I'm thinking burn? Thalia is not a bad choice either.
Sanctity is good against
If you're playing UW, you should have a least a set of Paths anyway to deal with the problem creatures, but if Canonist isn't actually killing you, I wouldn't worry about it. If you're creature heavy, Thalia is always a good choice. If Affinity is strong in your meta, perhaps Hurkyl's Recall? Timely Reinforcements is a pretty good board card, particularly against burn or aggro decks. I'll admit, I seriously underestimated how good it is.
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Sovarius
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posted March 14, 2013 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by stu55:
What are you playing?
UW Merfolk Last iteration was:
4x Merrow Reejerey
4x Lord of Atlantis
4x Master of the Pearl Trident
3x Coralhelm Commander
3x Phantasmal Image
4x Silvergill Adept
1x Sygg, River Cutthroat 4x Aether Vial
3x Path to Exile
4x Remand
2x Echoing Truth
4x Spreading Seas 4x Island
4x Misty Rainforest
4x Wanderwine Hub
4x Hallowed Fountain
4x Mutavault Definitely going to work Gitaxian Probes and Vapor Snags in there. If i do i would like to take out Paths.
Also really like Sejiri Merfolk. Agressive in their own way, and the added lifelink plays into the control aspect.
Love Sygg but unsure on him.
Cursecatchers will likely go back in. Cards i've considered for the board have been:
Rest in peace
Stony Silence
Pithing Needle
Torpor Orb
Grafdiggers Cage
Timely Reinforcements
Hurkyll's Recall
Spell pierce
Tempest of Light/Paraselene And because of this thread:
Leyline of Sanctity
Thalia
Ethersworn Canonist Coasterdude: Don't even remotely know the meta, just guessing based on results. I started playing modern two weeks ago tops just for this tournament (which is 200 miles away).
edit: These sideboard options are also coming from checking out other merfolk board choices. Was thinking Kira is good, too.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Sovarius on March 14, 2013]
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marlo213
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posted March 14, 2013 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by Sovarius:
UW MerfolkLast iteration was:
4x Merrow Reejerey
4x Lord of Atlantis
4x Master of the Pearl Trident
3x Coralhelm Commander
3x Phantasmal Image
4x Silvergill Adept
1x Sygg, River Cutthroat 4x Aether Vial
3x Path to Exile
4x Remand
2x Echoing Truth
4x Spreading Seas 4x Island
4x Misty Rainforest
4x Wanderwine Hub
4x Hallowed Fountain
4x Mutavault Definitely going to work Gitaxian Probes and Vapor Snags in there. If i do i would like to take out Paths.
Also really like Sejiri Merfolk. Agressive in their own way, and the added lifelink plays into the control aspect.
Love Sygg but unsure on him.
Cursecatchers will likely go back in. Cards i've considered for the board have been:
Rest in peace
Stony Silence
Pithing Needle
Torpor Orb
Grafdiggers Cage
Timely Reinforcements
Hurkyll's Recall
Spell pierce
Tempest of Light/Paraselene And because of this thread:
Leyline of Sanctity
Thalia
Ethersworn Canonist Coasterdude: Don't even remotely know the meta, just guessing based on results. I started playing modern two weeks ago tops just for this tournament (which is 200 miles away).
edit: These sideboard options are also coming from checking out other merfolk board choices. Was thinking Kira is good, too.
I would cut the fetches all together so you don't give the opponent with deathrite shamans fuel. But seriously, merfolk is too weak without the free counters, maybe add in disrupting shoal to the board?
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Tiff
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posted March 14, 2013 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by Sovarius:
UW MerfolkLast iteration was:
4x Merrow Reejerey
4x Lord of Atlantis
4x Master of the Pearl Trident
3x Coralhelm Commander
3x Phantasmal Image
4x Silvergill Adept
1x Sygg, River Cutthroat 4x Aether Vial
3x Path to Exile
4x Remand
2x Echoing Truth
4x Spreading Seas 4x Island
4x Misty Rainforest
4x Wanderwine Hub
4x Hallowed Fountain
4x Mutavault Definitely going to work Gitaxian Probes and Vapor Snags in there. If i do i would like to take out Paths.
Also really like Sejiri Merfolk. Agressive in their own way, and the added lifelink plays into the control aspect.
Love Sygg but unsure on him.
Cursecatchers will likely go back in. Cards i've considered for the board have been:
Rest in peace
Stony Silence
Pithing Needle
Torpor Orb
Grafdiggers Cage
Timely Reinforcements
Hurkyll's Recall
Spell pierce
Tempest of Light/Paraselene And because of this thread:
Leyline of Sanctity
Thalia
Ethersworn Canonist
You will want at least two caverns in there. I would put cursecatchers back in and don't take out the paths. Also maybe some spellskites in the board to help fight twin and pod. Stony silence and torpor orb are also very good board choice that help against a few decks.
If your not big on canonist maybe try meddling mage? Not sure how good it would be as I haven't tested it but it could buy a turn or two.
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Sovarius
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posted March 14, 2013 09:47 AM
What do skites do against pod and twin? Also told Skite is good against infect.Thanks for the discussion, all.
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Lord Crovax
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posted March 14, 2013 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by Sovarius:
What do skites do against pod and twin? Also told Skite is good against infect.Thanks for the discussion, all.
Skite redirects the Twin itself, vs Pod not sure tho
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Tiff
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posted March 14, 2013 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by Sovarius:
What do skites do against pod and twin? Also told Skite is good against infect.Thanks for the discussion, all.
Against pod u can redirect the untap abilities of exarch and conscripts.
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wayne
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posted March 14, 2013 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by Sovarius:
What do skites do against pod and twin? Also told Skite is good against infect.Thanks for the discussion, all.
Spellskite can suck away some of Infect's pump spells.
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caquaa
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posted March 14, 2013 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by Tiff:
Against pod u can redirect the untap abilities of exarch and conscripts.
you can't change the untap ability of exarch to skite, its target permanent you control and its set by mode. Spellskite is good against:
Boggle
infect
r/g haste (tons of 3 power dudes, its a solid wall)
UWR geist (makes bolt less interesting)
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Sovarius
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posted March 14, 2013 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by marlo213:
I would cut the fetches all together so you don't give the opponent with deathrite shamans fuel. But seriously, merfolk is too weak without the free counters, maybe add in disrupting shoal to the board?
i will have to cut fetches for caverns, probably. but the opponent is fine exiling his own fetches, since jund plays like 8(?).
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revenger
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posted March 14, 2013 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by mattw:
I wish I played during that block and had a bunch of those lands laying around.I personally think they are garbage. Tapping 2 lands for 2 mana.... seems like that could be done fairly easy enough with basics. I would just put in a couple more mana rocks rather than spend 10-15 bucks on a land that doesn't increase the amount of mana I can produce. With all that being said of course, I do own a Horde of Notions deck that has a $2000 mana base.
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