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Discuss!

Oh yea, I bought a set of foil Deadbridge Chant and foil Progenitor Mimic to test my speculation.

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Is Deadbriddge chant the chase card? (besides Ral Zarek)

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quote:
Originally posted by revenger:
Is Deadbriddge chant the chase card? (besides Ral Zarek)


Nope. No one really wants it for constructed AFAIK. I am just picking foil ones up for EDH demand, and if it somehow becomes playable in constructed, that's even better!

$7 for a foil EDH playable mythic is a risk I am willing to take.

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quote:
Originally posted by junichi:
Nope. No one really wants it for constructed AFAIK. I am just picking foil ones up for EDH demand, and if it somehow becomes playable in constructed, that's even better!

$7 for a foil EDH playable mythic is a risk I am willing to take.


I would do that too

I still believe that Voice is the best card in the set. And since the rest of the set is so meh, it has a good chance of staying at $20 for a while. If Voice was printed in say RTR, the price would more likely be around $10.

 
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Originally posted by gaeacradle:
If Voice was printed in say RTR, the price would more likely be around $10.

Is the speculation that a much higher number of RtR packs will be cracked due to this set being weaker overall; thus leading to fewer voice's on the market?

 
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I'll be hitting 2 prerelease events tomorrow. Still haven't decided which guild to try and get. Leaning toward Orzhov and Gruul since they fit my playstyle best, but wouldn't mind Boros.

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I'm thinking Golgari or Selesnya. I like the idea of Scavange/Evolve or Populate/Evolve.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by stab107:
I'm thinking Golgari or Selesnya. I like the idea of Scavange/Evolve or Populate/Evolve.

Scavenge/evolve seems inSANE.

 
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I still think orzhov got shafted. White/black always gets shafted. Ever since apocalypse.

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So I actually signed up for a pre-release, and ended up with Azorius because it and Izzet were the only guilds still "open". Laaame.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by junichi:
Nope. No one really wants it for constructed AFAIK. I am just picking foil ones up for EDH demand, and if it somehow becomes playable in constructed, that's even better!

$7 for a foil EDH playable mythic is a risk I am willing to take.


Depends entirely if we get another acceptable reanimator spell to replace unburial rites. Grisly Salvage is still around for another year, and that orzhov permanent reanimate spell looks intriguing.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Volcanon:
So I actually signed up for a pre-release, and ended up with Azorius because it and Izzet were the only guilds still "open". Laaame.

Yeah, I think Azorius got a pretty big downgrade with DGM. Izzet might be ok tho since it is assumed to be a slower format.

 
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Took Simic, got Golgari as my allied guild, the exact combo I was hoping for. Opened a whole bunch of crap, my best "bomb" was Deadbridge Goliath.

Went 4-1, made top 16(130 people) and got paired against the 1 seed. Beat him game one due to land screw. Games 2 and 3 I got to see why he was the 1 seed. He went Izzet and got paired with Boros. Proceeded to pull Mercurial Chemister, Assemble the Legion, Master of Cruelties, Aetherling, Tajic, and Sire of Insanity. He also had 2 Warleader's Helix, 2 Angelic Edict, and 2 Teleportal.

All in all it was a fun night. Pontiff of Blight is crazy by the way.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by KGtheLegend on April 27, 2013]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by KGtheLegend:
Took Simic, got Golgari as my allied guild, the exact combo I was hoping for. Opened a whole bunch of crap, my best "bomb" was Deadbridge Goliath.

Went 4-1, made top 16(130 people) and got paired against the 1 seed. Beat him game one due to land screw. Games 2 and 3 I got to see why he was the 1 seed. He went Izzet and got paired with Boros. Proceeded to pull Mercurial Chemister, Assemble the Legion, Master of Cruelties, Aetherling, Tajic, and Sire of Insanity. He also had 2 Warleader's Helix, 2 Angelic Edict, and 2 Teleportal.

All in all it was a fun night. Pontiff of Blight is crazy by the way.


Running izzet in about an hour, hoping to pull Boros. White-blue seems to have some pretty good stuff (white gatekeeper, deputy of acquittals) in DGM. As long as I don't get dimir ill be happy though; simic and gruul have some nasty stuff in DGM too

 
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quote:
Originally posted by KGtheLegend:
Took Simic, got Golgari as my allied guild, the exact combo I was hoping for. Opened a whole bunch of crap, my best "bomb" was Deadbridge Goliath.

Went 4-1, made top 16(130 people) and got paired against the 1 seed. Beat him game one due to land screw. Games 2 and 3 I got to see why he was the 1 seed. He went Izzet and got paired with Boros. Proceeded to pull Mercurial Chemister, Assemble the Legion, Master of Cruelties, Aetherling, Tajic, and Sire of Insanity. He also had 2 Warleader's Helix, 2 Angelic Edict, and 2 Teleportal.

All in all it was a fun night. Pontiff of Blight is crazy by the way.


I was at the same prerelease I think. Went 4-1, lost to pack rats. Top 16, play same guy again with t2 pack rats 3 games in a row. Get my 4 prize packs, leave. Now everybody is telling me that it is impossible to get pack rats in the guild pack.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by LemonMeringue on April 27, 2013]

 
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Well, just got home from the hospital a few hours ago... and I'm leaving soon to go to the PR. Hee hee. Wish me and Orzhov luck!

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quote:
Originally posted by LemonMeringue:
Now everybody is telling me that it is impossible to get pack rats in the guild pack.

I have been hearing that too. I would investigate

 
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Izzet with gruul. Went 2-1-1. Opened Exava, Legions Initiative, Voice of Resurgence, Blood Scrivener, Notion Thief, mizzium mortars.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by LemonMeringue:
I was at the same prerelease I think. Went 4-1, lost to pack rats. Top 16, play same guy again with t2 pack rats 3 games in a row. Get my 4 prize packs, leave. Now everybody is telling me that it is impossible to get pack rats in the guild pack.

I opened a Precinct Captain in my Selesnya guild pack, so it is possible to open a Pack Rat out of the Golgari and Rakdos guild packs.

Went with Selesnya, got Boros as my 2nd guild. Opened Boros Reckoner in my Boros guild pack, and Voice of Resurgence in a DM pack. Win or lose, this has been a successful day.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
I opened a Precinct Captain in my Selesnya guild pack, so it is possible to open a Pack Rat out of the Golgari and Rakdos guild packs.

Went with Selesnya, got Boros as my 2nd guild. Opened Boros Reckoner in my Boros guild pack, and Voice of Resurgence in a DM pack. Win or lose, this has been a successful day.


from what ive been hearing, there are only 8 variations of each guild pack. there are never pack rats in them.

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Rares and mythics which cannot be opened:
Angelic Skirmisher
Ash Zealot
Archon of the Triumvirate
Carnival Hellsteed
Chromatic Lantern
Consuming Aberration
Corpsejack Menace
Death's Presence
Fathom Mage
Five-Alarm Fire
Foundry Champion
Glaring Spotlight
Grove of the Guardian
Hypersonic Dragon
Illusionist's Bracers
Ogre Slumlord
Ooze Flux
Pack Rat
Pithing Needle
Realmwright
Rest in Peace
Rubblehulk
Search the City
Thespian's Stage
Treasury Thrull
Volatile Rig
And mythics that cannot be opened:
RTR:
Angel of Serenity
Armada Wurm
Epic Experiment
Jace, Architect of Thought
Necropolis Regent
Rakdos's Return
Sphinx's Revelation
Utvara Hellkite
Vraska the Unseen
Worldspine Wurm
GTC:
Aurelia's Fury
Deathpact Angel
Domri Rade
Duskmantle Seer
Enter the Infinite
Giant Adephage
Gideon, Champion of Justice
Hellkite Tyrant
Lord of the Void
Master Biomancer
Shocks are not included because they can be opened in DGM packs.
This list is definitive. 26 rares + 10 shocks unavailable = 36; 106 rares, 7 guild packs with rares from each set = 106.
Mythics: 20 mythics unavailable + 10 mythics available (legends) = 30 mythics.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by revenger:
I still think orzhov got shafted. White/black always gets shafted. Ever since apocalypse.


Orzhov and Gruul were tied up for the strongest in my 2 local prereleases.

 
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My friend pulled Sphinx's Revelation next to me so Im not really trusting that list.
 
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I think the lists from RTR and GTC guildpacks for pre-releases aren't the same as the ones being used now. Multiple reports of people pulling two rares in packs and packs having different contents than what is on the known list.
 

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