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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Edit: Can I cast Myr Superion using Convoke?

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Myr Superion doesn't say you HAVE to use mana from creatures in order to cast it - it says any mana you use has to come from creatures. Using zero mana to cast it fulfills the requirement.

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Originally posted by revenger:
Whats with the new Garruk? Whats his trip?

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Are you asking about the storyline reasons for his appearance or does your comment have some other meaning?

This is the latest progression of the curse put on him by Liliana, using the chain veil.

http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Garruk_Wildspeaker

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Originally posted by iccarus:
Are you asking about the storyline reasons for his appearance or does your comment have some other meaning?

This is the latest progression of the curse put on him by Liliana, using the chain veil.

http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Garruk_Wildspeaker

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Storywise. He's flipped out. He's went to the dark side.

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Originally posted by Pail42:
Covoke reduces the mana cost of the spell, so if you give it Covoke and tap two creatures the cost becomes zero.

Myr Superion doesn't say you HAVE to use mana from creatures in order to cast it - it says any mana you use has to come from creatures. Using zero mana to cast it fulfills the requirement.

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The reminder text says otherwise - like, almost completely the opposite. "Each creature you tap while costing this spell pays for 1 or one mana of that creature's color".

So i think you are right but for the wrong reason.

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Originally posted by Sovarius:
So i think you are right but for the wrong reason.

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Indeed. If you didn't pay mana that came from something other than a creature you can play Myr Superion. Convoke pays for the spell without paying mana.

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Originally posted by Pail42:

Indeed. If you didn't pay mana that came from something other than a creature you can play Myr Superion. Convoke pays for the spell without paying mana.

Here is the official convoke text:
"702.50a Convoke is a static ability that functions while the spell with convoke is on the stack. “Convoke” means “For each colored mana in this spell’s total cost, you may tap an untapped creature of that color you control rather than pay that mana. For each generic mana in this spell’s total cost, you may tap an untapped creature you control rather than pay that mana.” The convoke ability isn’t an additional or alternative cost and applies only after the total cost of the spell with convoke is determined."

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Originally posted by Sovarius:
The reminder text says otherwise - like, almost completely the opposite. "Each creature you tap while costing this spell pays for 1 or one mana of that creature's color".

So i think you are right but for the wrong reason.

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That reminder text reads kind of weird, like, Portal weird. The old Convoke reminder text says, "Each creature you tap while playing this spell reduces its cost by (1) or by one of that that creature's color." That's curious because I could see situations where it would make a difference, for instance, Trinisphere. Trinisphere applies after all other cost adders/reducers take effect, then checks to make sure it's at least 3. Under the old wording, you would always have to pay at least 3, even if you otherwise reduced it to 0. Under the new wording though, it reads like you're actually paying the mana cost, such that you could sneak it in under a 3-sphere.

Convoke's function was changed from a cost reducer to what it is now for the M14 rules update - article has a decent explanation:
[URL=http://archive.wizards.com/Magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/255c&page=3]http://archive.wizards.com/Magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/255c&page=3[/ URL]

I guess we should have all expected convoke to show up again soon since they decided to do a major overhaul on the rules last year.

"I don't remember exactly how the conversation started, but one day a few months ago R&D ended up talking about how weird it was that you could "overtap" when casting a spell using convoke. That was weird, past-me thought, so I started thinking about ways to change that. As a cost-reduction ability, it couldn't really be contained. You can make a spell cost a billion mana less if you want to. I sought the advice of Rules Manager Emeritus Mark Gottlieb. Together, we came up with a new paradigm for convoke: what if instead of reducing the cost, tapping creatures was just another way of paying mana?

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Originally posted by revenger:
They killed Elspeth! BASTARDS!

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That's old news, relatively speaking. But i am not really sure doubleyew tee eff is actually happening with that - as a planeswalker there are really very few ways to die. Also, as a planeswalker, how is "hell", or whatever ErebosLand is called, NOT on a plane? If it's a really fanciful mystical magical place on the plane of Theros, can't she 'walk? If it's a seperate plane, then shouldn't she be able to 'walk like any other plane? Why is Ajani so mad bro? Can't he just 'walk there?

I read the books and snippets of stories that have unfortunately come to replace the books, i can't figure out why this is special. Teferi was once 'destroyed' by Nicol Bolas but reconstituted soon after. Jeska survived being struck by the Mirari sword. Nicol Bolas was attacked with an emulation of Night's mask and decayed to nothing, but reconstituted himself as well.

Most of the planeswalkers that have died were sacrifices from what i know. Venser, Freyalise, Windgrace, and at least one other in Time Spiral's events i think. If i remember correctly, most planeswalkers don't even know how to actually end another planeswalkers existence.

Is this just a new thing for planeswalkers post-mending?

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It also sounds like that doesn't explain why she can't planeswalk away, or Ajani there, or why Xenagos needs to be a God of Theros, instead of someone with arbitrarily large amounts of power and presumably the ability to make himself larger and nyx-sparkly.

It seems very unlikely still that Xenagos is permadeath'ed so there could be a return to Theros someday.

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Originally posted by Sovarius:
It seems very unlikely still that Xenagos is permadeath'ed so there could be a return to Theros someday.

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That would really make me sad to learn the power of Godsend isn't what I think it is.

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Originally posted by revenger:
well, M15 is at least returning to mediocrity with recent cards such as Stain the Mind and Garruk, Apex Predator.

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
What's wrong with Garruk?

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
What's wrong with Garruk?

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Originally posted by Sovarius:
..If i remember correctly, most planeswalkers don't even know how to actually end another planeswalkers existence.

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Urza could teach you a few things, planting bombs in the machines operated by a few planeswalkers that entered Phyrexia. Forgotten their names and to lazy to look up.

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Originally posted by AEther Storm:
Urza could teach you a few things, planting bombs in the machines operated by a few planeswalkers that entered Phyrexia. Forgotten their names and to lazy to look up.

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Like Freyalise and company?

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Originally posted by oneofchaos:
I guess back to nature says WOTC doesn't like Theros block, or more like #@(@# you for playing with enchantments. Sigh.

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I see it as a trying to balance out the type 2 scene.

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