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Originally posted by chaos021:

There's been a ton of BfZ testing online and people are in love with bad cards. I honestly think this entire set should've been aborted. It's awful.

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Unfortunately, it doesn't look like they have done anything to go over the top with Awaken, Rally, Converge, or Ingest. They have some cool synergy cards but nothing on the level of, for example, Polukranos + Nykthos. Neither of those cards breaks any eternal formats, but they go bonkers in standard.

I was hoping some of the eldrazi processors or the late game converge cards would be more flavorful and more game-breaking. But nothing is. Nothing is even interesting.

Unless Oath really does some cool things with the mechanics, this block is definitely not living up to the hype.

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Originally posted by dfitzg88:
what bothers me most is that this set is a perfect opportunity to adjust the power level of standard and start some new traditions. they have less space to play around with each mechanic, and I was hoping for synergy decks to be more potent, and each mechanic to be sporting some sweet payoff cards.

Unfortunately, it doesn't look like they have done anything to go over the top with Awaken, Rally, Converge, or Ingest. They have some cool synergy cards but nothing on the level of, for example, Polukranos + Nykthos. Neither of those cards breaks any eternal formats, but they go bonkers in standard.

I was hoping some of the eldrazi processors or the late game converge cards would be more flavorful and more game-breaking. But nothing is. Nothing is even interesting.

Unless Oath really does some cool things with the mechanics, this block is definitely not living up to the hype.

Original Zendikar block had some really fun cards, and even the BAD synergy decks were fairly competitive. There were always new decks coming out of the woodwork. I remember playing Runeflare Trap/Howling Mine/Twincast combo at my first GP and going 5-3. Not a stellar record, but pretty good for a ridiculous standard synergy combo deck.

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The processor ability could have infinitely better. Like literally, there's 1 maybe 2 processor cards that are construct worthy. There really should have been an ability called processor x, and have it do call things like delve does.

That new sunburst ability has always been terrible and only that black card draw in the set even justifies that ability for constructed.

Awaken might be better than I think, but all the cards look like trash outside of that counterspell and wrath.

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Originally posted by aethertech:
Things that are appealing about Battle for Zendikar:
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Things that are appealing about Homelands:
At least it had Baron Sengir, Ihsan's Shade and the coolest flavor of all time.

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Don't forget AEther Storm. Birthset of the coolest-of-all magic artwork.

Might I add Legions was still the worst set ever to draft. Go Homelands!

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Originally posted by aethertech:
Things that are appealing about Battle for Zendikar:

Fetchable duals, crazy money cards, Eldrazi titans, 2 decent planeswalkers and another Ob Nixilis, Sylvan Scrying reprint....

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Originally posted by AEther Storm:
Don't forget AEther Storm. Birthset of the coolest-of-all magic artwork.

Might I add Legions was still the worst set ever to draft. Go Homelands!

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I'd rather draft Legions all day instead of the crap we're about to deal with. It looks that bad to me.

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Originally posted by Pail42:
Sets seems reasonable for limited. I haven't heard a complaint yet that explains why the limited will be bad.
Power level does feel down from Tarkir. Doesn't seem too far off from Theros though.
Seems fine. I would buy my normal amount of sealed product if it weren't for life getting in the way.

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I think the set looks good.
Then again I enjoyed Legions and Theros.

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Originally posted by Volcanon:
I think the set looks good.
Then again I enjoyed Legions and Theros.

Evolving Wilds seems like a sweet pick in landfall land.

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Originally posted by Pail42:
Sets seems reasonable for limited. I haven't heard a complaint yet that explains why the limited will be bad.
Power level does feel down from Tarkir. Doesn't seem too far off from Theros though.
Seems fine. I would buy my normal amount of sealed product if it weren't for life getting in the way.

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No synergy of any kind for anything (and don't start with the ally thing. It's super bad). Lack of decent (read: any) removal. All the landfall creatures are carbon copies. There are very few creatures that matter or have anything interesting going on. This is going to be Legions without decent/good creatures or equipment. I'm pretty sure they want limited matches to go to time based on how I'm looking at it. Keep in mind I'm talking about mostly the commons because that's pretty much what matters most for limited.

It's a far cry from Theros. In Theros, you had Voltron (bestow), which everyone got sick of. B/x control was viable. Red had some good pieces of removal and some creatures but was never strong enough to be the color unless everyone was passing you everything red. Blue was pretty solid all around but not exciting for most people, and white seemed to be the most powerful single color IMO. You could go fast, slow, big, small. However, you wanna skin a cat, you could do it in Theros block. I don't see how those options are viable in BfZ, except big. Big all day. You can go big for eons.

Now my question for you: what's "fine" about BfZ?

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Originally posted by oneofchaos:
Theros was pretty awful. I wasn't a good player the first time I drafted Legions.

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Originally posted by mtglover:
I actually like it when it comes to drafting cause of the lack of fast, undercosted creatures. I felt that creatures have recently been too powerful recently that lucks play a huge part of it. If you miss early land drops, it is pretty much game over.

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"Undercosted"? What's been "undercosted"?

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