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skizzikmonger Member	posted August 28, 2015 04:06 PM Spoiler
aethertech Member	posted August 28, 2015 04:17 PM OBLIVION SOWER. ALL THE OBLIVION SOWER.
shenwn Member	posted August 28, 2015 08:40 PM thanks
skizzikmonger Member	posted August 29, 2015 06:15 AM I'm already building a commander deck with Omnath as the commander. That card is sick.
skizzikmonger Member	posted August 29, 2015 08:23 PM All 10 fetches & shocks full frame [Edited 1 times, lastly by skizzikmonger on August 30, 2015]
aethertech Member	posted August 29, 2015 08:33 PM New Ulamog, is literally, a Double-Barreled Legacy Weapon.
revenger Member	posted August 29, 2015 09:17 PM quote: Originally posted by skizzikmonger: All 10 fetches & shocks full frame Available in the second set of the block Um. How can they do that in a single set? __________________ 30th in refs on Motl! #1 Ref's for Arizona! I offer 3rd party trading services. Email if interested. Your 2008, 2010 & 2012 Siskel & Ebert award winner! Your Motl runner-up in My Cousin Vinny & Rolling Stone Award!
chaos021 Member	posted August 29, 2015 09:39 PM quote: Originally posted by revenger: Um. How can they do that in a single set? As "treasures" or whatever they called it when they gave away Vintage crap in Zendikar boxes (the original Zendikar I mean). quote: Originally posted by aethertech: New Ulamog, is literally, a Double-Barreled Legacy Weapon. It's complete bull** IMO. __________________ "Message to women worldwide:** Girls....we're stupid. We don't like games. We don't know games. We can't read minds. Say it like you mean or STFU." -rockondon Sale Thread [Edited 1 times, lastly by chaos021 on August 29, 2015]
skizzikmonger Member	posted August 29, 2015 10:19 PM quote: Originally posted by revenger: Um. How can they do that in a single set? They're not part of the set, they're in addition to it. They will be legal in limited & whatever constructed formats the originals are legal in. If none of the lands are printed in the set, they won't be legal in standard.
flam flawless Member	posted August 29, 2015 10:26 PM quote: Originally posted by skizzikmonger: They're not part of the set, they're in addition to it. They will be legal in limited & whatever constructed formats the originals are legal in. If none of the lands are printed in the set, they won't be legal in standard. So will they be available in both foil and non foil versions or only non or only foil?
stab107 Member	posted August 29, 2015 10:28 PM Only foils. As far as I can tell, they appear in the foil slot at a frequency slightly higher than mythics do.
Volcanon Member	posted August 30, 2015 02:37 AM New Ulamog: Because the original Rise of the Eldrazi did not ruin EDH enough.
mnDiff Member	posted August 30, 2015 04:33 AM quote: Originally posted by stab107: As far as I can tell, they appear in the foil slot at a frequency slightly higher than mythics do. that's not what I heard ... heard that there will be 1 per 6 booster boxes .......... but I dont have no 100% source for this ... it can be that you're correct and that I am not ...
Child of Gaea Member	posted August 30, 2015 06:22 AM I saw a breakdown of Wizards numbers and cant find the link now but it said the rate would be 1 in 540 packs. It made sense from what I read. Just believe me I guess lol... [Edited 1 times, lastly by Child of Gaea on August 30, 2015]
James_Hetfield2 Member	posted August 30, 2015 06:31 AM Slightly higher than foil mythics so one or two per case.
iccarus Member	posted August 30, 2015 06:37 AM quote: Originally posted by Volcanon: New Ulamog: Because the original Rise of the Eldrazi did not ruin EDH enough. His ability is still far easier to swallow than annhilator. I'd rather mill 20 than sac a bunch of permanents. I'm glad they are apparently leaving that ability out this time around. I might even swap out this guy for old Ulamog in the one deck I run Eldrazi in, simply because his cast trigger is better and I don't have to feel as bad when I swing with him. Also, just noticed that new Ulamog does not have the "shuffle into library" clause. Too bad whip is rotating. __________________ Wisconsin - smells like dairy air! I collect Granite Gargoyles. Send them my way. [Edited 2 times, lastly by iccarus on August 30, 2015]
Pail42 Member	posted August 30, 2015 06:40 AM I really like this experiment. Hopefully it works well and they can use it to take some pressure of lands in modern/legacy. The new duals are also cool. They seem very good for two color decks.
James_Hetfield2 Member	posted August 30, 2015 07:48 AM For those who didn't see the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOuJSELlss8 Tad painful to watch as Wheaton is obviously a very casual magic player.
crusader_ff3 Member	posted August 30, 2015 02:24 PM I seriously think that because fetchlands exist, basic lands are better than the new duals. Totally disappointed they didn't just reprint the zendikar fetches. Putting these treasures in random boxes, gigantic BS money scheme. Wizards is selling this set solely on full art basics. That's what everyone is excited about, which is hilarious to me. I'm not judging people for liking the basics, they're cool looking. Just find it humorous that wizards is making so much money off of this. Genius on their part.
stab107 Member	posted August 30, 2015 03:22 PM quote: Originally posted by Child of Gaea: I saw a breakdown of Wizards numbers and cant find the link now but it said the rate would be 1 in 540 packs. It made sense from what I read. Just believe me I guess lol... Would love to see the source, because from what I can figure out they will be slightly more frequent than foil mythics simply based on the fact that there are 25 and not 15. They will probably be printed on a separate sheet as well. I can't see it being 1:540 if existing foil mythic rate is about 1:216. 1:6 cannot be right as that is greater frequency than existing foils at 1:8. There is no way these things are more common than common foils unless they somehow decided to print one sheet for each rarity and jam them all in there. That would be pretty insane, actually, and foil sets of BFZ would then be the thing to chase.
revenger Member	posted August 30, 2015 05:43 PM quote: Originally posted by crusader_ff3: I seriously think that because fetchlands exist, basic lands are better than the new duals. Totally disappointed they didn't just reprint the zendikar fetches.. I totally agree with this. The shocklands are totally better than these new dual lands. Hell, I wouldn't have minded a reprint of the checklands than these. They will be played nonetheless, but wow. What a waste. __________________ 30th in refs on Motl! #1 Ref's for Arizona! I offer 3rd party trading services. Email if interested. Your 2008, 2010 & 2012 Siskel & Ebert award winner! Your Motl runner-up in My Cousin Vinny & Rolling Stone Award!
mm1983 Member	posted August 30, 2015 05:54 PM 1 in 540 booster packs or 15 booster boxes could be most likely. I believe foil Khans fetches were about 1 out of 360 packs or 10 booster boxes.
iccarus Member	posted August 30, 2015 07:58 PM If I still played standard, I would actually be very sad that these are replacing the scry lands. I mean, you can fetch them up, but they just seem kind of "meh." I'd probably feel better about them if they just checked for a single basic, instead of two. __________________ Wisconsin - smells like dairy air! I collect Granite Gargoyles. Send them my way.
Pail42 Member	posted August 30, 2015 09:00 PM quote: Originally posted by iccarus: If I still played standard, I would actually be very sad that these are replacing the scry lands. I mean, you can fetch them up, but they just seem kind of "meh." I'd probably feel better about them if they just checked for a single basic, instead of two. They would be far better than the already-good check lands if they only required one basic. Modern/Legacy wise these might see a bit of play simply because they have the land types, they aren't super exciting there outside of two color decks that lean heavily one way. BFZ has a very obvious go-big theme. Expect lots of cheap removal and ramp that allows games to go long. When you're making your eighth land drop by playing a fetch, cracking it to get one of these new duals, getting two landfall triggers and still playing your 8 drop ASAP you might not miss the temples too terribly.
aethertech Member	posted August 30, 2015 09:28 PM quote: Originally posted by iccarus: His ability is still far easier to swallow than annhilator. I'd rather mill 20 than sac a bunch of permanents. I'm glad they are apparently leaving that ability out this time around. I might even swap out this guy for old Ulamog in the one deck I run Eldrazi in, simply because his cast trigger is better and I don't have to feel as bad when I swing with him. Also, just noticed that new Ulamog does not have the "shuffle into library" clause. Too bad whip is rotating. It isn't just mill, its exile.

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