I was offered a form for them to auto-sig my packages to save me time having to come up to the counter 2 or 3 times a week to pick stuff up. At first, it seemed like a great idea. Now I'm starting to wonder, though. It seems that now I could get a package, have it auto-sig'd, then they put it in the wrong box and I'm hosed. Has anyone else looked into this process or know more about it?

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Not to throw a big wrench into the works here, but something at the post office made me think about this.

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Originally posted by Bagbokk:
This should only be an issue because it's not directly addressed in the rules and the rules still state essentially that the recipient has to actually "receive" the stuff. Conceptually this should be a pretty easy case since it's the recipient's choice to auto-sig his packages, and it should be no different than if he actually signed for it, but left the package at the post office and someone else picked it up. By using auto-sig you're basically delegating your responsibility of signing packages to the post office and therefore whatever mistake they might make should be the same as if you had made it. Choose convenience at your own risk. The sender can't make or not make that choice for the recipient.

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Originally posted by Vegas10:
Completly agree it's the reciever's choice to aut-sig or not, and that makes it his respnsibility if he choses that course not the senders.

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going to agree. auto-sig means you've signed for it by proxy, and now whatever happens to it after that is your problem.

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First, thanks for the updated rules Leshrac. I honestly never thought anything good would come of that whole Ryusei/Hoosk situation a while back and that it would all get swept under the rug. I'm glad I was wrong.

Just for clarification now, since I'm going to get back into the whole swing of things for selling:

For domestic (USA) sales of under $200, I will no longer have to have my buyers agree that proof of delivery via delivery confirmation absolves me of any liabilities, since that is now specifically the rule, yes? In other words, I can now just agree on a $50 deal with someone, ship the cards with delivery confirmation, and as long as they show up in USPS's system as delivered I'm covered, right?

And for domestic (USA) sales of $200 or more, the same applies, except instead of delivery confirmation I will need to have signature confirmation, correct? No matter who signs for it? Just making sure I'm understanding everything correctly.

As always, I know it is my responsibility to make sure my end is successfully delivered and insurance is always wise, but I just want to clarify that the only risk I will now be facing is the risk of USPS shipping and not fraud on the receiving party's end.

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Also a question on clarification...

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Originally posted by junichi -CA-00 BTA:
As I have said, the tracking shows that the package was delivered in Chico, CA, and that is good enough evidence to show that CA-00 has fulfilled his duty.

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Just wanted to verify that showing that something was received in the same city/state is acceptable proof of delivery according to the rule that states:

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Originally posted by Leshrac:
For any deal where the combined value of the contents sent by one party is less than $200, proof (via USPS delivery confirmation or some equivalent) that a package sent by the sending party was delivered to the receiving party will create a rebuttable presumption that the sender fulfilled his or her part of the trade.

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I wasn't sure that that was the standard agreement and just wanted to make sure I had it correct.

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Originally posted by pugowar:
Bumping!

Also a question on clarification...
Just wanted to verify that showing that something was received in the same city/state is acceptable proof of delivery according to the rule that states:
I wasn't sure that that was the standard agreement and just wanted to make sure I had it correct.

Thanks!
Tim

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That is correct as long as the contents from the party is less than $200. Anything over that amount will require signature confirmation.

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Just throwing in my $0.02:

I had been mailed some important items via UPS and UPS should normally have me sign for items as I live in an apartment complex and who knows who wanders around from time to time. Usually, because I'm one of the working stiffs, the packages are left at the apartment complex office that I then have to try and run from work to the office before it closes to retrieve packages. I also get a UPS sticky note on my door indicating it was dropped off and now I got to run and hope they didn't close exactly on time. Lately, stuff has been just left on my doormat or off to the side of my apartment door. UPS's indicator says "Front Door" for where its final destination was... not left at the office where it ought to have been for the other half of my packages that I have to try and run to the office for... even IF my package wasn't stolen, the weather could have blown it away or had water damage to it rendering my items useless. Don't EVER place 100% trust in any company that is assigned to deliver items!

So, if you have stuff that really is expensive, please require a signature and use insurance!!

Edit - silly typos!

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Originally posted by theqissilent:
The only thing I have issue with is this should say $0.01 to $199.99 and the $200 or more. I just don't like that $200 can be construed either way

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Less than $200 means below $200. If the value of the lot is at $200 spot on, then it requires signature confirmation.

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is this just a reminder or does this mean we might see a rules change of some kind?

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Was this ever posted anywhere official?

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Was looking for this

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Holy nedroc'ed batman!

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