Revenger when called out in previous games has stood by he is a cit. this game it took him several posts to say I am a cit!

You, you are not playing the same game you have in the past. Your claiming dr without any reason to. And you have been nk'd very early in the past few games.

I have very clearly pushed for you two.

Wcfmo seems to be wagon jumping as well.

Do I know for a fact that all 3 of you are Mafia, No but I am pretty sure one of you are and you know it's hard for some people to take what I say as something Kyo. I know when I am revealed as a Cit it's only gonna be a matter of time!

Voting: Kyo

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Originally posted by Mardak5150:
So apparently my post reposted (or as I will refer to it from now on "reghosted") when I opened the page on my phone. So...don't disregard it, but don't put too much effort into figuring out why...

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He's also completely ignored MM's question of whom you saved each round and why, while calling out Bernek for not answering his questions.

I'm wondering about a completely different spin on things.. What if, instead of the mafia being veteran players.. what if they're not so veteran? They killed Liq, Juni, Kwas and Broiler. Unless you knew Liq from before, they'd all be "newer" players. With the majority of the remaining players being veterans. Perhaps the mafia is players that were after Liq's time, killing off those players that (they think) haven't been around as long as they have?

@Kyo, I actually started typing that post out before scipio even posted, but of course you only have my word on that. And.. I'm not sure where you get that I'm trying to keep anyone alive? Could you please clarify? I've also learned, over the course of many games, that if I stick my neck out anywhere, it gets lopped off, no matter what my role. So, I generally save my more.. argumentative-type posts for later in the game.

Thanks,
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To answer MM's question, I have been saving myself round after round. There was no language about once and only once could I 'visit' myself to save, just "you can save each person just once". I would think it's pretty obvious the doctor would deem to save himself in the early rounds.

I don't agree with the logic that a doc reveal 'loses' us a beneficial role. At this round, with 10 people left (9 after a lynch), the mafia will have to choose to kill me, or to avoid me altogether. As hili mentioned, we're in a double bluff.

This is, of course, unless the townspeople decide to lynch me.

The way that the previous round went, I knew I'd be being accused this round, so this was, to me, inevitable.

However, if you lynch me, you get a pretty clear indication of what I am, thanks to the lynch reveal rule that we run this game under (the doctor), and thus, we can look to see how the other people interacting with me.

The Doctor can save a player only once per game, including him or herself.

MasterWolf would have corrected you, if you did that. That means, to me 1 of 2 thing
1 you are mafia and have slipped up.
Or
2 you are a cit, making a play to save the real doctor.

Either way, I am on my phone at work and was planning a lengthy post later tonight.

~MM

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Originally posted by Volcanon:
If you compare Revenger to previous games, he's been acting oddly. So clearly he's a wolfmafia.

Vote Revenger

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There is more to life than just this game. If you read my previous posts, especially the beginning ones, it'll say that I was preoccupied with other things I was doing. That imo doesn't make you a mafia.

I would like to hear from Jaz, and MeddlingMage, as I see this as Wifom. Is this it? If not, please clarify that for me as I still don't know for sure what is or is not.

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Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
Quoted from the rules

The Doctor can save a player only once per game, including him or herself.

MasterWolf would have corrected you, if you did that. That means, to me 1 of 2 thing
1 you are mafia and have slipped up.
Or
2 you are a cit, making a play to save the real doctor.

Either way, I am on my phone at work and was planning a lengthy post later tonight.

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The Doctor may make a house call each round. If the Doctor happens to be visiting the same citizen targeted by the Mafia, s/he can do emergency surgery and save their life. The Doctor is on the citizens side and has the same winning conditions.If a citizen is targeted by the Mafia, and has been chosen by the Doctor, they will survive. The Doctor can save a player only once per game, including him or herself.

I have been house calling myself. I have not yet had to save myself, and until I do, I am not violating the rule that I can save myself once per game.

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Originally posted by revenger:

I would like to hear from Jaz, and MeddlingMage, as I see this as Wifom. Is this it? If not, please clarify that for me as I still don't know for sure what is or is not.

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No, it's not.

MM, Kyo is correct. It only counts as a save if you actually "save" them, not just "visit" them. Uhm... you really should already know this...

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Originally posted by Jazaray:
No, it's not.

MM, Kyo is correct. It only counts as a save if you actually "save" them, not just "visit" them. Uhm... you really should already know this...

Thanks,
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Then I'll prolly never freaking figure that wifom thing out. Whateva.

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My vote this round will be for Player X.

Math is very much not my strong suit, does anyone know how many more rounds we have before we just plain out lose?

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10 People up

This round: We vote kill someone this round 9

(assuming) mafia kills someone, 8

Next Round : We vote kill someone 7,

Mafia kills someone 6, mafia = half, we lose.

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Originally posted by revenger:
Then I'll prolly never freaking figure that wifom thing out. Whateva.

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Originally posted by Kyosukee:
3 Mafia Up

10 People up

This round: We vote kill someone this round 9

(assuming) mafia kills someone, 8

Next Round : We vote kill someone 7,

Mafia kills someone 6, mafia = half, we lose.

So we have this round and another round.

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So what your saying is you claim DR. Either they kill someone else or waste it on you. and get you next round and that buys us a round is what I am gathering?

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Originally posted by SolonJhee:
Sorry I haven't posted much. GP Vegas was crazy. Too bad I 1-2 dropped.

I'm trying to figure out what advantage it gets you by admitting you are the doctor (assuming you are telling the truth). Not seeing much.

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Originally posted by hilikuS:
I think you might be tunneling him a bit as well. I mean, you're pretty certain he's mafia, and when he claims Doctor, you don't even slow down. You're saying that the only way he can be certain of your role is because he's mafia, but couldn't he say the same obvious stuff about you? Nobody can argue against your gut feeling, but at the same time you seem to be ignoring the fact that if Kyo is actually the doctor, you're trying to bandwagon against the Doctor. You can be certain in your mind, but consider that there is a good percentage chance that you've guessed wrong.

I guess my problem with your argument is that you were suspicious of Kyo, and you have been working him hard. Then when he comes out with a role, you push even harder, dismissing his claim as false immediately. I'm not going to tell you you're wrong, but consider that if he did have a role, and was suspicious because he's playing differently for having a role, it could actually be Doctor.

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Originally posted by Kyosukee:
I think Hili hit the nail pretty hard on the head as to why we should vote bernek.

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Deflection if I have ever seen it.....Sticking with my vote!

Voting: Kyo

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Originally posted by Kyosukee:
I think Hili hit the nail pretty hard on the head as to why we should vote bernek.

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Problem is, I don't think that means Bernek is mafia, just that he's tunneling.

Kyo, if you are the Doctor, then Bernek's position may seem extra crazy. He's obviously making a push, but I'm not convinced it's a mafia play, and that he's legitimately convinced you are lying and you are mafia. I would like to stress that he thinks you are BOTH, because you can be a citizen liar, a citizen doctor, or a mafia liar.

Regardless, I don't think I will be voting for Bernek in this round.

I know Kyo you are into Bernek because of his play, but I'm afraid that neither of you are mafia, and the real mafia are just hanging out. The two of you have dominated the conversation for the past few days with your back and forth. In my experience that usually means both are citizens. From a mafia standpoint, why make waves at all? The two players making a lot of waves are drawing tons of attention. One of them is probable to get voted off, with the other not too far behind. I'm not going to tell you guys that neither Bernek or Kyo is mafia, but I'm very much wary that neither are, and if one gets voted off, that doesn't automatically make the other a bad guy.