Only Sith Deal in absolutes (I will not lie), Sith and principled men

My suspicion
Bernek
Evil
Revenger

However, a revenger citizen reveal from his lynch gives us a good place to search a smaller pile as per MM's suggestion (well, not directly, but the idea)

Revenger

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Originally posted by revenger:
I very rarely check pm,s. Mw sent me one to notify me I was a villager. Now seeing I am hiatus from the non t/a boards~ my wife explains to me that their is ppl voting for me in this game. I do apologize. Best way to get a hold of me right now is: text, email, phone, mtgo (wwhen its freaking back up again). I do occasionally hop on facebook. My main goal right now is getting gas moohlah for GP Las Vegas: so I can meet other motlers.

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I guess no one read my post.

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Originally posted by Bernek77:
OK the Junichi kills makes absolute no sense. Only thing that I can think of is Rev never answered his question of are you a citizen? Then he ends up dead. Rev has said repeatedly he can't lie. So my wondering is was Juni killed so Rev never had to answer his question.

So Rev are you a Cit?

Of course I am a villager. But with so much time and effort put into getting to GP Vegas this weekend, I haven"t paid attention to this. for the most part, I forget it's even going on.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bernek77:
[B]Juni's Demise is too strange for me. With better players out there his death just doesn't make any sense. He didn't say anything out of context to warrant a death. Well didn't say anything other than ask Revenger.

Voting: Revenger

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And I replied, see top of this post.

quote:

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Originally posted by Kyosukee:
however, i would like to hear back from revenger, in regards to the question asked of him.

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Again, see top of this post.

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Originally posted by Bernek77:
Jaz, in past games Rev has stated he can't lie. So the running joke in the game has been to Revenger from Junichi are you a bad guy. He always answers No I can't lie. It's just who I am. Now Rev has posted and your gonna tell me all he had to say he didn't look at the post's before he posted. I don't buy that.

Kyo yes I am a veteran. And I will push for a player if I believe him to be Mafia scum. Now let me ask you a question? Do you believe Rev didn't read any of the other posts and just posted what he said up there?

I firmly believe that he is avoiding the question to not get caught.

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I'm not avoiding anything. I am just to preoccupied with life in general and gp Vegas and other stuff. and Again, see top of post.

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Originally posted by Kwas:
Revenger?

VOTE REVENGER

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what to say to this? Anyone?

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Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
Ok, this is where I am at currently.

@ revenger:
I know you can't lie. I know you posted a FFB pick. I don't know if you know that the game has started or not. Your silence though is...odd. Low/Medium Suspicion ATM.

All that being said, I am still voting for SnapShot this round. If Evil-C responds before the voting deadline, it may change. But at this time and not wanting to miss a vote...

~MM

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Just to preoccupied with family and life. I've lost interest in the FFB. I forget this game is going on. Yes, I do not lie outright to anyone. But I have been known to bend the truth to my advantage. I could have swore I posted that somewhere on motl before.

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Originally posted by Kwas:
Surely hoping REVENGER posts this time.

I still feel a bit uneasy about his lack of presence.

Right now, I'm quite uncertain if it's revenger or Evil-C getting my vote. I feel the current push towards Evil-C is a bit harsh, and I think there might be some bad folks behind it, however his lack of answering questions and inquiries are pretty damning for him, but right now, I feel revenger is less active, than what I've seen from him earlier.

VOTE REVENGER (at least until further explaining by both parties)

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Due to my lack of participation, I don't blame you or anyone for voting for me. Hell, I prolly should vote for my self as well, though I am not going and thus will do a OMGUS vote.

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Originally posted by Evil-C:
Friends, fellow townsfolk, i sense great fear in you all as to my credibility as to whether or not i am part of the underground scum destroying this great town,
Im here today to set your fears aside and show that i am just a humble hardworking salesman.
i am a hardworking citizen like most of yourselves, and i have never had any dealings nor plan to have any dealings with those that wish to destroy the peace and serenity of this fair town.

My 2 fellow accused who also stand before you today, have not given me any real indication as to who is here to cause mischief and harm to us all, so i had indeed kept most of my feelings to myself in the hope that i may, see or hear something that may lead to the undoing of the mafia.

my vote will be for REVENGER

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See post directly above this one.

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Originally posted by Kyosukee:
Tentatively

Only Sith Deal in absolutes (I will not lie), Sith and principled men

My suspicion
Bernek
Evil
Revenger

However, a revenger citizen reveal from his lynch gives us a good place to search a smaller pile as per MM's suggestion (well, not directly, but the idea)

Revenger

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This is true from the sith perspective, unfort, it is not how I think. Now seeing there is lots of votes for me, this is futile on me posting, but nonetheless, I wanted to post something on here for MW. Just got caught up with other stuff.

Vote: Bernek77

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Originally posted by revenger:
what to say to this? Anyone?

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Originally posted by revenger:
Had to post 1 more thing: I might be considered a veteran, and I've learned from past games that silent players and/or ppl who forget not to vote tend to be villagers. Bernek, Should know this, right? I ask this to u Bernek: Why the big push/bandwagon on a silent player, me? Something for all of u to consider when I'm going to the gallows.

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Rev... you've been playing this game long enough to know what WIFOM is.. which is exactly what you're using right now. It doesn't sit very well with me. Plus, as you said, you can "bend the truth" to suit your purposes and you've yet to explicitly state that you are a cit. Saying you got the PM from MW about being a villager can be a way to "bend" it.

I don't lie either, but this is a GAME and not considered lying in a real sense.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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VOTE BERNEK77

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Originally posted by Kwas:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by revenger:
what to say to this? Anyone?

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Question still stands, thou: Are you a citizen?[/QUOTE]

yes. I'm a villager/citizen.

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Originally posted by Jazaray:
Rev... you've been playing this game long enough to know what WIFOM is.. which is exactly what you're using right now. It doesn't sit very well with me. Plus, as you said, you can "bend the truth" to suit your purposes and you've yet to explicitly state that you are a cit. Saying you got the PM from MW about being a villager can be a way to "bend" it.

I don't lie either, but this is a GAME and not considered lying in a real sense.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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I still don't throughly understand wifom, and if I am doing that, it wasn'T intentional.

but perhaps this will clarify to everyone what I am saying.

I am a villager/citizen

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Originally posted by Jazaray:
WIFOM is..

Thanks,
Jazaray

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I'm gonna google it right now and maybe I can understand it. It's a reference to a movie I think, Princess Bridge I think, which I have seen once.

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Originally posted by Evil-C:
if i am to die then watch those who have voted against me, you will find atleast 1 mafia in there if not more

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quote:

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Originally posted by Evil-C:

at this time i had not much better to go on apart from the fact that "veteran" players are being picked, that and i just feel that you are a mafia suspect to me.
this may not be enough to suffice some but that all i ahve at this point in time

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These are so WIFOM it is sickening.

Is regards to the first quote:
Anyone in this game can say this at any point before they feel they are gonna die.

These are the players I must choose from:

Evil-C
Bernek77
revenger

2 of these players are on my original "suspect list":

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Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
Ok, this is where I am at currently.

@ revenger:
I know you can't lie. I know you posted a FFB pick. I don't know if you know that the game has started or not. Your silence though is...odd. Low/Medium Suspicion ATM.

@Evil-C:
Haven't receieved an answer to my question/s yet. Could be you haven't seen them. Or could be you have no answer. Medium suspicion ATM.

@SolonJhee:
Editing is a big no-no. New to the game or not, you should have read these itterarion (sp?) of the rules. Super Low suspicion ATM.

@SnapShot: You were in my small pile which means nothing based on no one else really agreeing with my plan of attacking the smaller pile for a wolf. You also didn't vote. Chances are you are a villager, unaware the game has started. Low suspicion ATM.

All that being said, I am still voting for SnapShot this round. If Evil-C responds before the voting deadline, it may change. But at this time and not wanting to miss a vote...

~MM

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I think that Rev's downfall is he is too nice of a guy and he won't lie.

Also, Evil-C's answer to me...

quote:

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Originally posted by Evil-C:

at this time i had not much better to go on apart from the fact that "veteran" players are being picked, that and i just feel that you are a mafia suspect to me.
this may not be enough to suffice some but that all i ahve at this point in time

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...is meh at best. So although he may not be a wolf (hence why I didn't vote him last round-SnapShot was my vote FTR) but I think rev has less of a chance, by default my vote for the tiebreaker goes to Evil-C.

~MM

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My vote this round will be for Player X.

Voted Evil-C - 5
broiler1977
Jazaray
SolonJhee
hilikuS
MeddlingMage

Voted Revenger - 2
Kwas
Evil-C

Voted Bernek77 - 4
scipio624
revenger
WCFmo
Kyosukee

No Vote
SnapShot
Volcanon
Mardak5150
Bernek77

An unfortunate name for such a kind-hearted soul, Evil-C was beaten to death by his fellow citizens.

It took him too many posts to answer the are you a citizen post. Seems like it took much morale to finally say I am a cit.

Sorry Evil I know I'm not Mafia but you seem to be my tie breaker and I can't risk another split.

Voting: Evil-C

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Originally posted by MasterWolf:
Seething with anger over the Mafia's ability to manipulate the town's citizens, sad to see Evil-C get torn apart by his own brethren, Kwas never even saw the Thugs in the alley. 2 Quick Shots to the back of the head, and he won't be seeing anything ever again.

Votes are Due Sunday, June 23rd at 9pm EST (6pm MOTL time)

nderdog is replacing Snapshot.

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Kwas, really? I'm at work. More analyzing stuff later.

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My vote this round will be for Player X.

revenger, are you Mafia? Please give just a simple "Yes, I am Mafia" or "No, I am not Mafia."

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Originally posted by revenger:
yes. I'm a villager/citizen.

I am a villager/citizen

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I am not a mafia.

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Originally posted by nderdog:
Okay, still need to read through a bit more to get too deep in, but first things first. Since revenger says that he can't lie, but he can twist things, let me rephrase the key question in such a way that it can't be twisted.

revenger, are you Mafia? Please give just a simple "Yes, I am Mafia" or "No, I am not Mafia."

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I'm just curious how he could twist "I am a Cit"? Also, since he replied "I am not a mafia" which wasn't one of your options for his answer, does that mean something?

Frankly rev, by telling everyone you won't/can't lie in this game, you've pretty much screwed yourself if you ever ARE Mafia/WW. Unless you were lying about being able to lie...

Have you looked up WIFOM yet, since in what... the 3 or 4 years you've been playing mafia/ww you've never looked it up before, or paid attention when anyone explained it apparently? Did you understand the google explanation?

Thanks,
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Originally posted by Jazaray:
I'm just curious how he could twist "I am a Cit"? Also, since he replied "I am not a mafia" which wasn't one of your options for his answer, does that mean something?

Frankly rev, by telling everyone you won't/can't lie in this game, you've pretty much screwed yourself if you ever ARE Mafia/WW. Unless you were lying about being able to lie...

Have you looked up WIFOM yet, since in what... the 3 or 4 years you've been playing mafia/ww you've never looked it up before, or paid attention when anyone explained it apparently? Did you understand the google explanation?

Thanks,
Jazaray

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No, I am not Mafia.

Yes I did google it. and still don"t completely understand it. Does it mean a play on words? Doesit mean role reversal? Does it mean not trust them to tell the truth? Does it mean I am an idiot for not understanding it? (I say yes)

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Originally posted by Jazaray:
I'm just curious how he could twist "I am a Cit"? Also, since he replied "I am not a mafia" which wasn't one of your options for his answer, does that mean something?

Frankly rev, by telling everyone you won't/can't lie in this game, you've pretty much screwed yourself if you ever ARE Mafia/WW. Unless you were lying about being able to lie...

Have you looked up WIFOM yet, since in what... the 3 or 4 years you've been playing mafia/ww you've never looked it up before, or paid attention when anyone explained it apparently? Did you understand the google explanation?

Thanks,
Jazaray

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and yes, I looked it up b4, didn't understand it then neither.

I do have to correct myself, I have seen the Princess Bride about 3 times. Not just 1. I do not care for the movie.

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