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dwiz Member	posted June 03, 2013 06:18 PM quote: Originally posted by ryan2754: If I could get a box for $225, should I? And if so, should I hold on to it? I certainly wouldn't open it if you're paying that much.
ryan2754 Member	posted June 03, 2013 06:24 PM Local store is also doing $25 dollar drafts of MM with DGM as prize support and $35 dollar drafts with MM prize support. $225 is the cheapest I've seen around here, though. __________________ -Schmitty T-80th in Refs [298] on MOTL (with weitz and Avatar of Might) 2nd in Refs [298] in OH-IO (656 behind souladvocate) 2nd in Posts [8065] in OH-IO (only 20 behind Val!) “If Brad Stevens is the future of coaching in college basketball, the sport is in a good place.” - Rick Pitino
stu55 Member	posted June 03, 2013 08:21 PM quote: Originally posted by daner: As I pointed out in a previous post...my guys distributor will sell him boxes at around $200 a pop. Which is why he doesn't wanna buy them to resell. He said he'd get them for me if I wanted...but I'm passing as well. If a sports cards store is getting them at msrp from a distributor there is no chance they are selling at msrp. They WILL want to make some money. My guy has just known me forever...which is why he said he'd get them for me at his cost if I really want. you should do this
samuraisocks Member	posted June 04, 2013 02:12 PM Spoken to quite a few stores and they are telling me they are getting boxes for about $110 a pop. The cheapest I have seen stores selling for is $175. I could buy as many boxes as I want for about $230 a box. Not a good deal but if anyone really needs boxes or they want boxes in bulk I can get them for anyone interested. -Cheers-
Kveezy New Member	posted June 06, 2013 11:49 AM Is buying a box @210-220 before tax really worth it though? If I were to open to box, is there anyway I would regain the money that I paid for or would I just be better off buying singles of MM? I also know some people @ my LGS who pre-ordered right when Modern Master was announced and they're only paying 150-160 per box as the store is honoring there initial price.
jvs Member	posted June 06, 2013 12:20 PM Unless you are paying less than market value for your boxes, you are better off buying singles than cracking boxes for every box ever in the history of Magic. jvs
dwiz Member	posted June 06, 2013 12:27 PM quote: Originally posted by jvs: Unless you are paying less than market value for your boxes, you are better off buying singles than cracking boxes for every box ever in the history of Magic. jvs True for everything except Unhinged.
Kveezy New Member	posted June 06, 2013 12:30 PM quote: Originally posted by jvs: Unless you are paying less than market value for your boxes, you are better off buying singles than cracking boxes for every box ever in the history of Magic. jvs Thanks, I thought maybe Modern Master might be the exception, apparently not.
daner Member	posted June 06, 2013 03:12 PM quote: Originally posted by stu55: you should do this No thx....I'll save my money. It's really not worth my time. $210 a box....even after initial hype wears off and packs dry up...then what? I sit on boxes for 6 months and after shipping I make $25 on each? Not worth my time....and it's a space problem. I don't have the space as is.....why do you think every few months I drop off thousands of commons to you for free? Well.... 1. Your my friend 2.I hate clutter......
borisyelt7 Member	posted June 06, 2013 03:38 PM While it's likely not worth it to crack & sell, it actually is worth it to crack if your alternative is to buy the singles from a retailer. Check out this guy's work here - he puts the SCG retail value of a box around $360-$400 even AFTER scaling prices back due to the increased supply. He puts the eBay value around $250-$270. I believe this also ignores the value of common and uncommon foils, but includes the value of any Rare foils you would expect to get in an average box. So, if you're starting a modern collection from scratch and you aim to get playsets of key playable cards, then buying a box or two of MM and cracking might not be such a bad idea. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51qjIWe7sf4
dwiz Member	posted June 06, 2013 03:41 PM quote: Originally posted by borisyelt7: While it's likely not worth it to crack & sell, it actually is worth it to crack if your alternative is to buy the singles from a retailer. Check out this guy's work here - he puts the SCG retail value of a box around $360-$400 even AFTER scaling prices back due to the increased supply. He puts the eBay value around $250-$270. I believe this also ignores the value of common and uncommon foils, but includes the value of any Rare foils you would expect to get in an average box. So, if you're starting a modern collection from scratch and you aim to get playsets of key playable cards, then buying a box or two of MM and cracking might not be such a bad idea. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51qjIWe7sf4 SCG retail value means squat if you aren't SCG. I'm not going to give the guy a free click, but does he factor in ebay/paypal taking 20% and taxes taking another 15%?
MasterWolf Member	posted June 08, 2013 12:25 PM Second wave. Small, but it's there.
Volcanon Member	posted June 08, 2013 12:28 PM quote: Originally posted by dwiz: SCG retail value means squat if you aren't SCG. I'm not going to give the guy a free click, but does he factor in ebay/paypal taking 20% and taxes taking another 15%? You actually declare income you make from online sales?
Krieg Member	posted June 08, 2013 03:34 PM quote: Originally posted by MasterWolf: Second wave. Small, but it's there. Yeah, able to order 2 (two) more boxes from WOTC today. Nowhere near enough.
dwiz Member	posted June 08, 2013 07:00 PM quote: Originally posted by Volcanon: You actually declare income you make from online sales? It'd be nice not to have a choice whether or not to pay taxes....can't do much when 1099-Ks are filed for you
Demilio Member	posted June 09, 2013 08:11 AM Couldn't sleep last night so I opened my box that I paid $182 after tax for. Value wasn't what I had hoped for. My notables were: 1x Adarkvar Valkyrie 1x Arcbound Ravager 1x Bridge from Below 1x Cryptic Command 1x Chalice of the Void foil 2x Chalice of the Void 1x City of Brass 1x Cold-Eyed Selkie 1x Demigod of Revenge 1x Engineered Explosives 1x Engineered Explosives foil 1x Glen Elendra Archmage 1x Jhoira of the Ghitu 1x Keiga, the Tide Star 1x Knight of the Reliquary 1x Meloku the Clouded Mirror 1x Sarkhan Vol 1x Slaughter Pact 1x Tooth and Nail [Edited 1 times, lastly by Demilio on June 09, 2013]
baldr7 Member	posted June 09, 2013 11:11 AM quote: Originally posted by dwiz: It'd be nice not to have a choice whether or not to pay taxes....can't do much when 1099-Ks are filed for you Why not set up an LLC or something, since internet sales tax isn't a thing yet?
headumpire Member	posted June 09, 2013 12:24 PM quote: Originally posted by baldr7: Why not set up an LLC or something, since internet sales tax isn't a thing yet? Could you PM me to discuss this more? What do you mean? Wouldnt paypal still be over 20k and report you?
pugowar Member	posted June 09, 2013 12:59 PM We have an old fashion shop owner that gave all preorders at 150/box. Here are my rares. Angel's Grace Arcbound Ravager Auriok Salvagers Blood Moon Chalice of the Void Cold-Eyed Selkie Countryside Crusher Cryptic Command Dark Confidant Demigod of Revenge Doubling Season Dragonstorm Earwig Squad Glen Elendra Archmage Knight of the Reliquary Life from the Loam Progenitus Pyromancer's Swath Reveillark Rude Awakening Slaughter Pact Summoner's Pact Sword of Fire and Ice Vedalken Shackles Verdeloth the Ancient Foil Pact of Negation Uncommons- 2 Eternal Witness 1 Kitchen Finks 2 Lightning Helix 1 Manamorphose 1 Path to Exile 2 Spell Snare 1 Tidehollow Sculler 1 Foil Tidehollow Sculler Not bad at all for any price and GREAT for such a cheap price. Wish I was able to get more than 1 box. Anyone else noticing the increase in demand for non-MM modern cards? I thought the influx of new cards would drop values but I am not so sure. It's almost like everyone who pulled a Goyf/Clique/Bob said "Great now I need 3 more". [Edited 1 times, lastly by pugowar on June 09, 2013]
Zeckk Member	posted June 09, 2013 03:45 PM quote: Originally posted by pugowar: Anyone else noticing the increase in demand for non-MM modern cards? I thought the influx of new cards would drop values but I am not so sure. It's almost like everyone who pulled a Goyf/Clique/Bob said "Great now I need 3 more". And behold, the biggest reason why MM was created. MM is an appetizer.
headumpire Member	posted June 09, 2013 08:18 PM Good buy at $230? To sit and hold for a few months
dwiz Member	posted June 09, 2013 08:23 PM quote: Originally posted by headumpire: Good buy at $230? To sit and hold for a few months Probably. Just don't get tempted and open it, cause you won't open $230 in stuff. Sell it in 2 years for $330. I guess it's worth it if you aren't into the market.
Demilio Member	posted June 09, 2013 08:43 PM quote: Originally posted by dwiz: Probably. Just don't get tempted and open it, cause you won't open $230 in stuff. Sell it in 2 years for $330. I guess it's worth it if you aren't into the market. After opening my crappy first box I don't think I will lose to temptation on the 2nd one.
mtg-deal4u Member	posted June 10, 2013 11:43 AM We sold them in the store for $154.99 ahead of time and the week of release for $179.99 cash cc was $4 more. we sold 26 box's that way and was happy. I got a few more coming in next week and but now my wholesaler raised there price so I am going to charge $199.99 next week on those ones. Still a lot lower than Ebay etc. We try to help our players with good prices since they support us on their singles. Since I am part owner now it helps! Well do a draft with one on the box's and sell the others at $9.99 per pack. [Edited 1 times, lastly by mtg-deal4u on June 10, 2013]
psilence6k Member	posted June 12, 2013 06:14 AM This set reminds me a lot of Worldwake with people running the Jace lottery... except now it's the Goyf lottery lol. I sold my 3 boxes at a profit (made $85/box), didn't open them.

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