ME: "You don't get to draw a card if play first"

Me: I counterspell your Dross Scorpion.

Other player: "no you cant, I ended MY TURN!"

WHAT??????!?!?!?!?!

I know they are the bad guys, but the article takes this fact and rubs it in my face. If they are trying to be a sort of "guide to X", it would be a lot more interesting if didn't include morality in the picture.

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Other play: Dross Scorpion, GO!

Me: I counterspell your Dross Scorpion.

Other player: "no you cant, I ended MY TURN!"

WHAT??????!?!?!?!?!

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You: "I'm playing a Shatter that costs UU."
Guy: That's Counterspel!!
You: If you can add "can't be countered" to a card, I can add "destroy target artifact" to mine.

Problem solved.

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Originally posted by joz:
Other play: Dross Scorpion, GO!

Me: I counterspell your Dross Scorpion.

Other player: "no you cant, I ended MY TURN!"

WHAT??????!?!?!?!?!

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Originally posted by Volcanon:
Anybody else see the lengthy treatment they gave "white Phyrexia" and thought, "good lord, this is ridiculously biased"?

I know they are the bad guys, but the article takes this fact and rubs it in my face. If they are trying to be a sort of "guide to X", it would be a lot more interesting if didn't include morality in the picture.

You: "I'm playing a Shatter that costs UU."
Guy: That's Counterspel!!
You: If you can add "can't be countered" to a card, I can add "destroy target artifact" to mine.

Problem solved.

Though if this is casual or EDH, I'm sick of people who don't pay attention and want to retroactively counter spells that I announced minutes ago.

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He shouted "Go" as soon as the card hit the table; and I was looking at my hand trying to figure out if I wanted to use Counterspell or Dissipate on it.

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He shouted "Go" as soon as the card hit the table; and I was looking at my hand trying to figure out if I wanted to use Counterspell or Dissipate on it.

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Originally posted by Thanos:
http://www.trollandtoad.com/p90676.html

Has it really come to this?

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Yes, yes it has.

and its an UNCOMMON LAND from tempest....I know FOW is an uncommon...but its a GOOD uncommon.

But an UNCOMMON land .... comon..WHAT THE HELL?

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and its an UNCOMMON LAND from tempest....I know FOW is an uncommon...but its a GOOD uncommon.

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Yeah we all know how terrible Wasteland is...

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Yeah we all know how terrible Wasteland is...

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Thats the whole problem, I had a stock of them, YEARS ago.

T_T

oh well, win some...lose most of them.

Anyone got any fun ideas for a 4+ multiplayer deck that isn't a combo douchebagery or control deck (or just straight agro, but a rogue deck that is fun (maybe a Group-Hug-To-Death?)

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http://www.trollandtoad.com/p90676.html

Has it really come to this?

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Too bad I didn't see it coming. I could use trading Wastes for goyf.

Funny story: I gave away a wasteland in the Secret Santa of the Brazilian MtG site. lol.

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At this rate, the cost to play legacy will almost be as expensive as playing vintage, and is hard to foresee how legacy can continue like this in the future.

My money is on WoTC eventually announcing the long speculated "Super Extended" format.

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Thats the whole problem, I had a stock of them, YEARS ago.

T_T

oh well, win some...lose most of them.

Anyone got any fun ideas for a 4+ multiplayer deck that isn't a combo douchebagery or control deck (or just straight agro, but a rogue deck that is fun (maybe a Group-Hug-To-Death?)

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RG Beasts.

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The million dollar question is: How long will this last?

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Originally posted by Thanos:
http://www.trollandtoad.com/p90676.html

Has it really come to this?

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Originally posted by junichi:
The million dollar question is: How long will this last?

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Well by my count, it's been lasting for over 15 years.

Every single year prices rise and people go "wow this is crazy, it can't go any higher, can it?".

Wasteland, FoWs and Duals are pretty much the ultra staples of Legacy so...they're not coming down any time soon I wouldn't think. I doubt if you bought 200 duals today you'd have lost money in 2-3 years. In fact I almost invested 8000$ in some mutual fund the other day with a 3-4% yearly return ( after 5 years if you're lucky enough )... Duals, Fows and Wastelands have a way better return than that...

In the last 5 years, Wastelands are at like 400%, FoWs at 100% and duals at like 50% growth...

Liq, Coinmagic, Legendary ferret and WCFmo, Please send lat minute List to Yaku for V5CB if you still haven't, thank you.

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Originally posted by Thanos:
http://www.trollandtoad.com/p90676.html

Has it really come to this?

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I'm so glad I just picked up 4 more, along with a bunch of other legacy staples now, before anything goes up beyond my price range..lol

Now to just reacquire a set of goyfs..lol

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Originally posted by caquaa:
it can last. Have you seen the cost of standard? Especially if you consider rotations... yuck!

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I am well aware of the cost of standard, and that is part of the reason why I sold all my standard stuff not long ago to fund my vintage wants. The rotation loss every year is indeed annoying, but it is not hard to mitigate that loss with careful planning.

About half a year ago, a dealer offered to buy my standard deck for $700, and at that moment, I realized I could've easily spend those money on vintage instead, and get back to the format I used to play before I quit eons ago.

Now, looking back at standard after half a year, I can't say standard is the most ridiculous cost format anymore. Yeah, you still have an $80 card in the format, but everything else is relatively cheap.

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Originally posted by -PoX-:
Well by my count, it's been lasting for over 15 years.

Every single year prices rise and people go "wow this is crazy, it can't go any higher, can it?".

Wasteland, FoWs and Duals are pretty much the ultra staples of Legacy so...they're not coming down any time soon I wouldn't think. I doubt if you bought 200 duals today you'd have lost money in 2-3 years. In fact I almost invested 8000$ in some mutual fund the other day with a 3-4% yearly return ( after 5 years if you're lucky enough )... Duals, Fows and Wastelands have a way better return than that...

In the last 5 years, Wastelands are at like 400%, FoWs at 100% and duals at like 50% growth...

Been rising every year ever since they got printed...

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I don't think you understand what I was talking about. I am more concerned about the growth of the format, than the cards being able to keep value.

True story. The biggest LGS in Vancouver started to run full proxy legacy tournament every week just to keep interest in the format. Why? Because people who jumped onto the legacy boat awhile ago has the staples already, and they don't need to buy from the store to put a deck together, while people who wanted to join in can't afford to buy from the store due to the high "get in" fees. Does this remind you of a format that used to be popular but eventually died due to a high "get in" cost?

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Does this remind you of a format that used to be popular but eventually died due to a high "get in" cost?

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