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Mr.C
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Are russian cards this insanely expensive, or is this guy sniffing something really strong?

http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/089879.html

 
Havoc Demon
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.C:
Are russian cards this insanely expensive, or is this guy sniffing something really strong?

http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/089879.html


The glue must be potent over there, since he expects payment first.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.C:
Are russian cards this insanely expensive, or is this guy sniffing something really strong?

http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/089879.html


He is smoking something, other Russian sellers sell for far less then this dude does...

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hilikuS
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quote:
Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
He is smoking something, other Russian sellers sell for far less then this dude does...


Usually the something smokes you.



[Edited 1 times, lastly by hilikuS on January 06, 2012]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.C:
Are russian cards this insanely expensive, or is this guy sniffing something really strong?

http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/089879.html


Hes new and from Italy. He has no idea how motl works.

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posted January 06, 2012 02:27 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Thanos Click Here to Email Thanos Send a private message to Thanos Click to send Thanos an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Any reason why no more Dark Ascension cards have been spoiled yet?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Thanos:
Any reason why no more Dark Ascension cards have been spoiled yet?

Spoilers starting next week i believe. They mentioned it at the end of one of this week's articles, don't remember which one.

 
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Sharuum + Sculpting Steel/Phyrexian Metamorph + Disciple of the Vault
Mindcrank + Bloodchief Ascension + Damage
Power Artifact + a Monolith
Power Artifact + Filigree Sages + Gilded Lotus
Voltaic Construct + March of the Machines + a Monolith/Gilded Lotus
Academy Ruins + Mindslaver + 10 mana.... heh
Thopter Assembly + Time Sieve
Thopter Foundry + Sword of the Meek (powers time sieve)

Alright, not all combos. But good enough. Synod artifcer can be used in there as an untapper if make him an artifact with Mycosynth Lattice and hit with Voltaic Construct... Convoluted comos are good too.
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quote:
Originally posted by hilikuS:
Usually the something smokes you.

But he's from Italy, not Soviet Russia...

 
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quote:
Originally posted by JackSpade:
Spoilers starting next week i believe. They mentioned it at the end of one of this week's articles, don't remember which one.

Thank you.

 
Speed Demon
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posted January 06, 2012 03:49 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Speed Demon Click Here to Email Speed Demon Send a private message to Speed Demon Click to send Speed Demon an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Am I out of line for refusing to trade down even trades involving my $10-15 cards for their $1-5 cards?
 
caquaa
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quote:
Originally posted by Speed Demon:
Am I out of line for refusing to trade down even trades involving my $10-15 cards for their $1-5 cards?

sounds like decent cards for trash, but theres usually more to the story then that. I had someone offering me $8-10 cards for snapcasters and turned it down. It just feels better to have the more valuable cards if they are liquid.

 
Volcanon
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posted January 06, 2012 04:19 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Volcanon Click Here to Email Volcanon Send a private message to Volcanon Click to send Volcanon an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Can I send a ref check for Magic Online trades?
 
Speed Demon
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quote:
Originally posted by caquaa:
sounds like decent cards for trash, but theres usually more to the story then that. I had someone offering me $8-10 cards for snapcasters and turned it down. It just feels better to have the more valuable cards if they are liquid.

I mean. The cards are playable and all. But for example something like this:

quote:

4 Blood Moon (4.50)
2 Past in Flames ($4.00)
1 Proclamation of Rebirth ($1.00)
2 Cloudstone Curio ($1.50)
1 Fulminator Mage ($2.00)
Total: $32

Your
1 Chrome Mox (Mirrodin) ($10.50)
1 Arid Mesa ($8.00)
1 Scalding Tarn ($10.50)
1 Doran, the Siege Tower ($2.50)
Total: $31.50


When I say, That looks terrible for me. Is that insulting?

Also had someone basically bitch out / ignore trades ever from me because I basically refused trading down $15 cards for $5 (or less) cards (with no premium).

The guy thinks he insulted me and compared me to Dan Bock.. (uh.. thanks?).

I'm all for doing even trades. But it really infuriates me when people think I'm the ******* when I say no to someone giving me a bunch of $1-5 cards for $15.

So frustrating.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Speed Demon on January 06, 2012]

 
caquaa
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Trade doesn't look that good to me. I think the blood moons being the main bulk of that trade really turns me off. Either way, its kinda how you handle yourself. I'm usually fairly polite because todays bad trade offer still might be a good one tomorrow.
 
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posted January 06, 2012 04:52 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Speed Demon Click Here to Email Speed Demon Send a private message to Speed Demon Click to send Speed Demon an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by caquaa:
Trade doesn't look that good to me. I think the blood moons being the main bulk of that trade really turns me off. Either way, its kinda how you handle yourself. I'm usually fairly polite because todays bad trade offer still might be a good one tomorrow.

Yeah, you're right. I should learn to work on my people skills besides saying "lol no" and "sounds terrible".


Ugh, Help me out folks. I just got delivered some cards and the big money cards ($5-20) were nowhere close to NM status. I'm talking significant whitening on each to at least be downgraded to EX+ to EX-. Not poor, but not NM either.

Since this guy sent first, what should I do? I already sent him a PM of the situation..

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Speed Demon on January 06, 2012]

 
totalkaoz
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I purchased a played card from a member here after it appeared fine in scans. When the card showed up, there was a bend/crease on one side, running halfway into the card, which did not show up in the scans (probably due to lighting). Is it my fault for assuming the card would not have bends/creases or should I ask for compensation for it?
 
Mr.C
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quote:
Originally posted by totalkaoz:
I purchased a played card from a member here after it appeared fine in scans. When the card showed up, there was a bend/crease on one side, running halfway into the card, which did not show up in the scans (probably due to lighting). Is it my fault for assuming the card would not have bends/creases or should I ask for compensation for it?

Depends on whether he was upfront about the bend/crease.

 
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Hmm.. well, it wouldn't hurt to ask for compensation either way. I don't really know how it'd go in a BTA though if it comes to that. Scans are great and all, but there can obviously be damage that doesn't show up in scans, so just saying that "I gave you a scan so you can judge the condition for yourself" can still be misleading.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by Bagbokk on January 06, 2012]
 
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There was no mention of a crease/bend. I assumed there wasn't because the scans did not show the damage.
 
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Yikes, I'm dumb. I was confusing these with bounce lands.

http://sales.starcitygames.com/carddisplay.php?product=172246

Originally posted by NiceFaceLOL:
The bouncelands were all promos too plus the FNM savage lands.
the rav block bounce lands? I don't recall ever seeing promos of those. Perhaps you're thinking of something else?

At least it should be easy to get promo basics ;p

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Speed Demon:
Am I out of line for refusing to trade down even trades involving my $10-15 cards for their $1-5 cards?

Try having those same 1-5$ cards offered for 30-50$ cards....or worse yet, guy offers nothing over 20, and TONS of 0.50-4$ cards and wants multiple 30$+ Cards...

Never even offering a premium, always even values using some site as a guide...

Guess everyone is hoping to find someone dumb enough to do it *shrugs*...

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Well part of it might be people used to dealing w/ stores a bunch too. If you offer $30 buylist of stuff you get $30 of stuff for sale back. Doesn't matter what you trade in or trade... value for value. People get used to that and expect it to translate when the prices aren't adjusted for such a thing. I've had a ton of bad offers on my sales lists when I run them and I just ignore or let them know I'll pass on their offer.

I was supposed to put up another sales list days ago and I've been super busy or not feeling like putting a list up from scratch. It takes me a couple hours and its hard to look at excel/MOTL/Ebay for that long of a period sometimes.

 
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Originally posted by Volcanon:
Can I send a ref check for Magic Online trades?

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If I get a scan and there even seems to be some whitening on the edges at all, I always ask if there are any bends, creases and if its still playable in a sleev, just as a precaution.

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quote:
Originally posted by caquaa:
Well part of it might be people used to dealing w/ stores a bunch too. If you offer $30 buylist of stuff you get $30 of stuff for sale back. Doesn't matter what you trade in or trade... value for value. People get used to that and expect it to translate when the prices aren't adjusted for such a thing. I've had a ton of bad offers on my sales lists when I run them and I just ignore or let them know I'll pass on their offer.

I was supposed to put up another sales list days ago and I've been super busy or not feeling like putting a list up from scratch. It takes me a couple hours and its hard to look at excel/MOTL/Ebay for that long of a period sometimes.


Problem with this is, it's not 30 for 30, its more like 60 for 30....45 for 30 at best.

As store do not buy or trade at full value, so by that Logic, they should be used to trade up and down, as that is basically what stores do to make profit.

Just in the case of trading on here, its more a justification for trading a large liquid card for smaller cards that are less liquid.

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