What I meant to ask was wasn't Swagger WWE Champion after cashing in his MitB? If so, how in the world did Cena reclaim the title?

Or am I confusing two titles?

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Originally posted by ryan2754:
Wow, I really messed it up. It was late last night and yeah.

What I meant to ask was wasn't Swagger WWE Champion after cashing in his MitB? If so, how in the world did Cena reclaim the title?

Or am I confusing two titles?

EDIT: Mea culpa. Definitely was confusing World Heavyweight Champion with WWE Champion. So confusing.

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The best way to remember is Big Gold Belt= Smackdown, Belt that looks like it was designed by a 6 year old= Raw.

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WWE Title: Cena vs Batista (stipulation pending)
World Title: Swagger vs Big Show (anouncment coming Friday, or shortly thereafter)
Randy Orton vs Edge

The Orton-Edge match, and Batista's final match might be enough to convince me to buy this PPV. WWE also seems to be setting up the WWE Title match for the Fatle 4-Way PPV to be Cena vs Sheamus vs Edge vs Orton.

And I wish my locale had the channel for Smackdown.

EDIT: Anyone watching NXT? Who do you think gets kicked off?

I think it's gonna be Tarver.
I think Gabriel and Barrett are the best rookies.

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Originally posted by stu55:
god damn you michael cole

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Originally posted by ryan2754:
EDIT: Anyone watching NXT? Who do you think gets kicked off?

I think it's gonna be Tarver.
I think Gabriel and Barrett are the best rookies.

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Don't watch it, but from what I gather from PW Torch is that Wade Barrett and Daniel Bryan are the best on the show. I also think David Otunga gets a job regardless, because there's no way Vince passes up on the main stream press coverage Jennifer Hudson's man will get.

Any guesses on quickly Drew McIntyre gets "re-hired"? I'm thinking he wins a "Win and you're re-hired" stipulation match against Matt Hardy at Over the Limit.

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1) Michael Tarver, Daniel Bryan, an Skip Sheffield were eliminated from NXT. Bryan then cut a promo saying that he's going to start using his real name (Brian Danielson) again. Whether he's still with WWE and will be on a show now as Brian Danielson is yet to be seen.

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Originally posted by ikris:
I had NXT set to DVR simply for Brian Danielson. After he was eliminated, no more DVR for that crap.

Been getting a little bored with storylines for ROH as of late. Cornette's presence seems to have pushed them further towards entertainment and away from wrestling. That scares me.

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Why did the WWE Universe like Daniel Bryan so much? What did he have going for him? He didn't seem to have much charisma. He did have good wrestling techniques, but he's just not as strong, cut, or "high-risk (high-flying/dramatic)" as the other wrestlers. He just doesn't seem to have the "IT" factor to me - he just seems average. Then again, maybe that was what he had going for him.

Tarver was an idiot with the whole thing.
Sheffield had potential, but just didn't have very good mic skills. I loved his nickname though (Cornfed Meathead).
Otunga has the body and the mic skills and charisma, just lacks moves in the ring. And fighting with his pro doesn't help.
Barrett definitely can become another big fighter in the WWE. I know I am picking at straws when I do this, but he is sort of a hybrid guy to me. He seems to have his own niche. He's not big enough like Marc Henry or the Big Show (I mean he's big), not massively strong looking like Cena, Batista, and Orton even, but also he lacks the finesse of the smaller players. Interesting to see how that plays out for him. Seems to be getting the swagger that his pro has as well.
Darren Young has a good record going for him, but not getting much respect from the pros. Good wrestler, but not spectacular in any regards. Sort of like in the Daniel Bryan column, but found him to be a little bit above average.
Heath Slater has the swagger, has the talent, the mic skills, just don't know if he's right for the WWE. He's got a nickname, he's got the ability, but he reminds me of every other average jo schmo in the WWE that gets a random match here or there.
Justin Gabriel I think has some talent. A little lacking in the mic skills, but he has charisma. Definitely my favorite so far. The thing is, Evan Bourne is already filling the niche that Gabriel has (high flying risky attack), as is one of the members of the Hart Dynasty, which I think is working against him.

I think Darren Young gets eliminated.

I think Gabriel is really good, but I think he needs to work on his mic skills.

Yeah, Bryan DEFINITELY showed his mic skills and charisma tonight, with his speech. Too bad he's already eliminated.
The thing is, I think it's bull**** they got eliminated for saying they themselves should be. It shows taking responsibility - sure you don't want to be the one to go, but at least they aren't making excuses.

He may have been technical, but he just doesn't seem that strong. Just don't think he had the all around package.

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Originally posted by ryan2754:
Yeah, Bryan DEFINITELY showed his mic skills and charisma tonight, with his speech. Too bad he's already eliminated.
The thing is, I think it's bull**** they got eliminated for saying they themselves should be. It shows taking responsibility - sure you don't want to be the one to go, but at least they aren't making excuses.

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He was eliminated, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have a job. WWE has a ready made rivalry between Danielson and The Miz, and they'd be stupid not to capitalize on it.

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He may have been technical, but he just doesn't seem that strong. Just don't think he had the all around package.

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Who cares if he doesn't look strong. Looks mean nothing if you have no talent (ie, Chris Masters). He's got the all around package, but he had a few minuits on an hour long show bogged down with talking, PPV promos, and "challenges" to prove himself. He did so in the ring, but WWE creative (or Vince or both) decided to hold him down on the mic. I hope that was done to get the rivlary with The Miz going, but more than likely it was done because WWE creative doesn't know wtf they're doing half the time (Little People's Court anyone?).

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Orton's done pounding the mat before going for the RKO. He injured his right arm doing that during his match with Edge tonight at the PPV (which resulted in a disapointing double count out ending at 12:00).

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Good. I mean, it was original and all, but it got slightly annoying, and looked childish.

Is the RKO the exact same move as the Stone Cold Stunner? Because it sure as hell looks like it.

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Originally posted by ryan2754:

Is the RKO the exact same move as the Stone Cold Stunner? Because it sure as hell looks like it.

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Diamond cutter.

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Orton's done pounding the mat before going for the RKO. He injured his right arm doing that during his match with Edge tonight at the PPV (which resulted in a disapointing double count out ending at 12:00).

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He was actually injured before that. It just made it worse.

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Orton's done pounding the mat before going for the RKO. He injured his right arm doing that during his match with Edge tonight at the PPV (which resulted in a disapointing double count out ending at 12:00).

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Even worse, he injured it the night before apparently, seperating his shoulder.

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WWE also seems to be setting up the WWE Title match for the Fatal 4-Way PPV to be Cena vs Sheamus vs Edge vs Orton

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Originally posted by MagicMystic:
LOL at WWE being predictable after THAT ending. Best swerve since Hogan being the third member.

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Originally posted by DerangedHermit:
Just shut up and enjoy the ride.

Danielson spitting in Cena's face and kicking him as well as him choking the living crap out of Justin Roberts was insane. Also, the initial shot of Michael Tarver made him look like a terrorist.

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I was actually confused as hell.
I thought Tarver was initially gonna battle with Barrett, and did not see them absolutely destroying everything in sight. I was sitting there just like, "WTF JUST HAPPENED?"

And what happened to Orton NOT pounding the mat anymore? He did it with his shoulder.

Oh, and I hate when fights get broken up by third parties. Really chaps my ass.

Cena always is the one to get jumped/outnumbered. Kind of feel bad for him.

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Originally posted by DerangedHermit:
Just shut up and enjoy the ride.

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What ride?

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Danielson spitting in Cena's face and kicking him as well as him choking the living crap out of Justin Roberts was insane.

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No it wasn't. Rookies and younger/newer wrestlers attacking the top guy happens all the time, and 1 out of 8 rookies spitting in the face of the top guy isn't a surprise or insane, nor is a smaller wrestler choking out a guy who's job revolves around sitting next to the anounce table.