Michael Cole sucks.

Watched Smackdown on Friday.

See that Barrett got Slater, Gabriel, and Jackson now.

CM punk has Husky, McGillicutty, and Otunga.

Foreshadowing anyone? 4on4 match that means something?
I can't put my finger on it, but have a feeling CM and Wade will be the last two left at Royal Rumble because of the posse they have.

I really wish Morrison would have beat the Miz in their falls anywhere match, that was fun to watch.

Does anyone else love some of the names of people's finishing moves?
Half the time, when I watch wrestling, I watch for some of the cooler looking moves, like Morrison's Starship Pain, Gabriel's 450 splash, and others.

Granted, it's staged and what not, but some of the moves still look pretty sweet.

I think the McGillicutter might be my favorite to watch, followed by some of the crazy DDTs people put on.

IE, Rey Mysterio's finishing move.

http://deadspin.com/5729733/dead-wrestler-of-the-week-ravishing-rick-rude

My biggest thing also is how John Cena seems to win every match that isnt interfered on. I mean, the guy CAN lose.

On top of that, every time Cena gets on a roll, it's always this sequence: Shoulder Charges x3-4, Suplex, 5-Knuckle Shuffle, AA, +/- STF. Randy Orton ends up doing the same thing too: Clotheslines x3-4, Scoop Slam, RKO. I'm missing a move in their but yeah. R-truth fits the bill on this as well. I mean, I understand everyone has their own move list and what not, but cmon. Switch up the order for a win.

If I were the other wrestler, I'd notice a pattern. I know it's fake and what not, but at least spice it up so it's not the sameold sameold everytime. And then Michael Cole calls it VINTAGE ____. Ugh.

I hate when matches get interfered on. Seriously.

Look at TNA, without all the run ins, backstage attacks that promotion would be flat of interest.

The nexus idea and having them interfere in matches is good, you can't have a gang of people just talk, or wrestle. you have to have credibility to justify the storyline these days.

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Look at TNA, without all the run ins, backstage attacks that promotion would be flat of interest.

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that is the best example of trolling i have ever seen.

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saw the diva championshiop match it was good, always liked the divas anyway.

M Henry/J morrison vs Del Rio/King Sheamus
Match was decent, glad they had Del Rio getting the winning submission pinfall

Also enjoyed the storyline continuing how edge hated the gm computer.

I had a gut feeling when they had both CM punk and Barrett fight it was gonna be disqualification. Both CORRE and Nexus represent 1/4 of the 40 man royal rumble particpation list and i don't see WWE bring that many new wrestlers.

One of the problems with WWE the roster is lack of talent and stability. I blame the writers they have as well. When you have injured talent, wrestlers not used to their potential or have stars suspended due to the wellnee policy. Its hard to maintain a stable roster all year.

The writers will be more hard pressed as their won't be a draft this year, which they were using to create new rivalies and keep the storylines fresh.

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I'm surprised so many of the WWE NXT Season 1 rookies are on the roster. Everyone but Skip Sheffield (who I believe got hurt) is on it.
2nd season it's McGillicutty, Harris, Riley, and Kaval.
Is it strictly because Season 1 was the mainly the best of the best when it came to talent? Or is there so many strictly because of the whole Nexus thing?

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Kaval had more talent than ANYONE on NXT Season 1, maybe even including Bryan "Daniel Bryan" Danielson. He asked for for his release because they had no plans for him.

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Kaval had more talent than ANYONE on NXT Season 1, maybe even including Bryan "Daniel Bryan" Danielson. He asked for for his release because they had no plans for him.

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Are there anymore non-scripted matches anymore? Like are there actually matches where the winner isn't chosen before hand anymore?

I figure there are, but maybe I'm mistaken.

I definitely think Wade deserved to be the winner of the 1st NXT.
I personally liked Gabriel because he actually had a finishing move (most of NXT did not)

As for the 2nd NXT, I thought Alex Riley was the best. He had a decent finishing move and his persona was unique with the varsity jacket and what not. I also like McGillicutty.

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One of the problems with WWE the roster is lack of talent and stability. I blame the writers they have as well. When you have injured talent, wrestlers not used to their potential or have stars suspended due to the wellnee policy. Its hard to maintain a stable roster all year.

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The problem isn't lack of talent, it's lack of depth of established stars. Look at the guys who have left (HBK, Jericho, Batista), or will be done within the next 5-10 years (Taker, Kane, HHH, Edge, Mysterio). That's almost every one of WWE's established main eventers. Fortunately for WWE they still have Cena and Orton already there, and Miz, Shaemus, Barrett, Zigglar, McIntyre and Morrison on it their way (DiBiassi should be on that list but WWE creative and Vince, which are also HUUUUUUGE problems, don't always use new and young talent the right way).

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The writers will be more hard pressed as their won't be a draft this year, which they were using to create new rivalies and keep the storylines fresh.

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1. star vs star
2. Changing some pay per views to be more exciting like TLC

Then you also have drawbacks

1. failed revivial of ECW
2. Lack of depth in tag team wrestling

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Now i also thought TNA would have been a good alternative

Now with Bischoff and their writers its like you seen evrything.

1. No more six sided ring-unique to TNA
2. The Immortals( can you say copycat of nexus/Corre or NWO)

Jim Cornette was good when he was with TNA

I am glad they are signing washed up ex WWE Talent, dont get me wrong they're trying to be WWE. Its a failure as long Bischoff and Hogan remain part of the company.

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Are there anymore non-scripted matches anymore? Like are there actually matches where the winner isn't chosen before hand anymore?

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thats called ufc/strikeforce/any hack with two nickels to rub together and some chain link fence.

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1. failed revivial of ECW
2. Lack of depth in tag team wrestling

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1. ecw was never going to be "revived" in the sense youre using. the original served its purpose and eventually ran its course as it should have. ecw was from day one going to be used as wwe's aaa farm club.

2. tag teams arent marketable. for every shawn, you have a marty. or worse, you have the dudebusters.

on paper, tna has everything needed to be a viable competitor. in practice, theyre expert marksman. that is, they can blow off their own foot with 100% accuracy. theres a reason wwe got rid of some of these guys:

jeff hardy: addict.
matt hardy: obnoxious troublemaker who thinks hes bigger/better than he actually is
mr. anderson: backstage agitator. not the safest worker.
rvd: burnout. character largely unchanged since 1997.
pope: see anderson.

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Lack of proper promoting has ruined WWE's tag team division more than the lack of depth. The tag team division in WWE has been relegated to 4th class citizen status with the women's division and the now defunct cruiserweight division. nWo knockoffs vs Super Cena is more important than good writing and proper promotion of once thriving and still popular divisions

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2. tag teams arent marketable. for every shawn, you have a marty. or worse, you have the dudebusters.

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TNA has always had good tag team roster like

Motor City Machine Guns
Beer Money
Generation (something)

Now you also have the Hardys except with the current storyline obviously they wont challenge Beer Money

As for the Dudleys they should have been broken up the first time they took time off from TNA.

The WWE tag team can't even be considered in existence its all been stars teaming with each other.

Interesting they had del Rio winning at all. Not surprised by the miz keeping title to keep that storyline going and having micheal cole his number one fan.

Interesting though that they had Nexus interfere in WWE championship match and not having Coore interfere in teh other championship match.

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Are you serious? Dudleys, Harlem Heat, Steiner Bros., The Outsiders, Beer Money, AA and Tulley(sp?) Blanchard, the Hart Dynasty, New Age Outlaws. Tag Teams are marketable IF it's done correctly with the right guys. While most tag teams are a vehicle used to get a guy or two from mid card to main event status, some are mainstays or long term teams even if one or more members are singles stars (ie Hall and Nash of The Outsiders).

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ill break this down into each respective team's peak timeframe.

dudleys: turn of the millenium. the dudleys were an ecw product. remember when anything ecw was seen as a license to print money? (too bad it didnt work for heyman. amirite, paul?)

harlem heat: mid 90s. harlem heat was *gasp* black. remember, were only 30 or so years out from "hey! that guy aint white or a close-enough-to-white-stereotype! BOOOOOOOOO!" plus, booker has "it". whatever that is.

steiners: early mid 90s. they were in the nwa which was based on in ring work as opposed to cartoonish gimmickry like "up north" was at the time. also, scott had "it".

brainbusters (arn and tully): late 80s. yes im aware that the above argument cancels out knocking arn and tully. but they were coming from down south. people knew them and wanted to see how they would do in the wwf. known commodities by and large get over. thats why the cornette law actually works. (google it on your own time)

hart dynasty: good lord i hope you mean hart FOUNDATION. in which case mid 80s. honestly, you kinda got me here. one of the things that will establish a worker or tag team is a good foil. the hart foundation might be a footnote if not the the british bulldogs. where would hogan be today if he didnt have piper, andre, or warrior? where would flair be if he didnt have dusty, whindam, sting, funk etc?

NAO: 1999*
outsiders: 1997*

i have different standards for hall/nash and NAO because they were part of a larger group. much like slater/gabriel are part of ex-us. (bad example i know) in the nWo and DX, you had a marketable head guy or gimmick or message or whatever to get the entire group over. without their umbrella stables, the outlaws would be just another tag team and hall/nash would have been razor and diesel forever.

now then. beer money. wheres their dvd? wheres their plethora of shirts? whats their catchphrase? dont get me wrong. i love beer money. i think their the best tag team to come along in maybe 10 years. but imo, their interchangable with almost anyone on the tna roster. take roode out, put kazarian in. how is beer money any different?

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TNA's tag teams suffer from TNA's crap booking and writing. I'm sure there's Beer Money merch on the website, I know there is MCMG merch. Beer Money and MCMG are great, marketable tag teams, but they work for a company that can't even promote the singles stars on their roster unless they came from WWE.

The Outsiders were around from 96-00/01 (peaking before the BW/BR split), and they were relevant and marketed between the fall of the original nWo and Wolf Pack, and the formation of nWo 2000 (Hart, Nash, Hall, S. Steiner, Jarrett).

Most tag teams are eventually broken up because one or both members have "it" and are only in a tag team until they're ready, but they can be marketed as a team IF the company/promoter does it right. All the teams I listed are examples of that. Today the only marketable teams are in TNA, but they suffer from TNA's crap management, booking and writing. In WWE, teams aren't promoted because Vince and creative have their heads up there ass' and care more about Super Cena vs the world than promoting a solid tag team. This wasn't always the case, but once they separated Miz and Morrison and fired Carlito they division fell apart because it was given the same treatment as the entire roster.

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
TNA's tag teams suffer from TNA's crap booking and writing. I'm sure there's Beer Money merch on the website, I know there is MCMG merch. Beer Money and MCMG are great, marketable tag teams, but they work for a company that can't even promote the singles stars on their roster unless they came from WWE.

im sure theres beer money merch too. blaming it all on tna "management" is too easy. remember amw? booked fairly well until the very end. triple x? also, booked fairly well. hell, the naturals got over! its all too easy to say "lol, tna" and just move on. there are a few things they actually do get right. by and large, tag team booking is one of those things. all im saying is that beer money alone did not put a single ass in a seat anywhere in the country.

The Outsiders were around from 96-00/01 (peaking before the BW/BR split), and they were relevant and marketed between the fall of the original nWo and Wolf Pack, and the formation of nWo 2000 (Hart, Nash, Hall, S. Steiner, Jarrett).

gotta admit, my memory is pretty fuzzy for most of wcw from 99-death. its all too russorific for me. i thought hall was living the last call gimmick hardcore around this timeframe.

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I HATE, HATE Michael Cole....however, he did say the Steelers were robbed and I gotta agree

But god, do I HATE Michael Cole

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I hate him more and more every week almost as much as I hate announcers getting involved in the action. And I hate that almost as much as I hate Vikki shrieking "Excuse me!" 5 billion times.

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Originally posted by stu55:
I HATE, HATE Michael Cole....however, he did say the Steelers were robbed and I gotta agree

But god, do I HATE Michael Cole

GDYC

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