9 AM Orientation
10 AM Colonoscopy
11 AM Laparoscopic Cholecystectomy, where they let me hold the camera

1 AM Clinic, where I proceded to see post-op and pre-op evals for Tension Pneumothorax, External Hemorrhoids, Pancreatic Cancer, Hiatal Hernia x2, Sebaceous Cyst removal, MRSA drainage x2.

Crazy day, but FINALLY to be out of the classroom!

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Welp, had my first day in my surgery rotation today.

9 AM Orientation
10 AM Colonoscopy
11 AM Laparoscopic Cholecystectomy, where they let me hold the camera

1 AM Clinic, where I proceded to see post-op and pre-op evals for Tension Pneumothorax, External Hemorrhoids, Pancreatic Cancer, Hiatal Hernia x2, Sebaceous Cyst removal, MRSA drainage x2.

Crazy day, but FINALLY to be out of the classroom!

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As someone who didn't do anything beyond a basic Anatomy and Comparative Physiology class (dissection of cats was the most complicated part), I'm impressed, in awe, and just a bit jealous of your part in a Lap. procedure.

I'm familiar with all of these procedures as far as knowing the name and what they are (not that I've ever witnessed one close-up or performed one) except the Cholecystectomy, which I had to Google. I guess I've just always heard "... removed his gall bladder."

I can't remember the last time I asked you about this subject, but do you have any thoughts on a specialty?

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I have a few left, send me an email with the email you want the invite going to.

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Thanks for the offer, but a friend sent me an invite a couple days ago, so no need now!

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As someone who didn't do anything beyond a basic Anatomy and Comparative Physiology class (dissection of cats was the most complicated part), I'm impressed, in awe, and just a bit jealous of your part in a Lap. procedure.

I'm familiar with all of these procedures as far as knowing the name and what they are (not that I've ever witnessed one close-up or performed one) except the Cholecystectomy, which I had to Google. I guess I've just always heard "... removed his gall bladder."

I can't remember the last time I asked you about this subject, but do you have any thoughts on a specialty?

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Pretty sure I couldn't stomach digging into somebody, or seeing it. Even those detective shows are sometimes too graphic for me.

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Pretty sure I couldn't stomach digging into somebody, or seeing it. Even those detective shows are sometimes too graphic for me.

Most we ever got to do in high school was a sheep's eyeball. And that was kinda cool I guess.

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I did a cow's eye in 4th grade. Not sure if all animals have it or what but the point (aside from learning) was the teacher wanted to show us how cool blue one of the parts on the inside is. Did you get to see blue?

Dismemebering things is legitimately a hobby of mine, and anything medical fascinates me. I can't wait to start taking random college classes for all that stuff.

Too.

Soon.

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Also, mortician soon. Woot.

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FFUUUUUUUUUU!!!

That's the profession I wanted to do

Q: Susie takes 10 minutes to saw a board into two pieces. Assuming she works at the same pace, how long will it take her to cut a board into three pieces?

A) 10 minutes
B) 15 minutes
C) 20 minutes
D) 30 minutes

The student circled "C" and was marked wrong, with the teacher offering this explanation:

2 pieces = 10 minutes
3 pieces = 15 minutes
4 pieces = 20 minutes

Some people don't see why that math doesn't work, some people facepalm and clearly see why the answer *should* be 20 minutes (two cuts, each taking 10 minutes), and some people have pointed out that if it takes Susie 10 minutes to cut a 2" X 2" board lengthwize into two 2" X 1" pieces, it should only take her 5 minutes to cut one of the 2" X 1" pieces into two 1" X 1" pieces, thus taking a total of 15 minutes.

It reminds me of two old puzzles:

1)

A guy who has four chains with 1, 2, 3, and 4 links. It costs $.50 to open a link and $.75 to close one. What is the minimum cost to make a single chain with 10 links?

Some people says $5 (open all four chains, close all four chains), some say $3.75 (line them up and open one link between 1 and 2, 2 and 3, 3 and 4, and then close those three links after opening them) and some say $2.50 (the correct answer - I'll let you think about that one).

2)

A frog is at the bottom of a 10 foot well and each day he can climb 3 feet, but during the night, he slowly slips down 2 feet. How many days does he take to get out?

Lots of people answer 10 days; +3 - 2 = +1, so 1 * 10 = 10. 10 days to escape.

It actually takes the frog 8 days.

I assume the *original* intent of the problem was to pose a word problem to a student making them use algebra.

Q: 2/10 = 3/X. Solve for X.

A: X = 15.

I don't know which is a scarier thought: the teacher made up his own word problem or he blindly used an incorrect text that was reviewed and no one saw a problem before it made it to print.

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Assuming the only requirement to being a chain of 10 links is that they are connected couldnt you just open 1 link and close it around all 3 other chains?
Total cost 1.25?

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No, the idea is one chain of 10 links in a row, not that they are all connected in *some* way.

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Use the one-link to connect two of the chains using 1.25 and then open the end of that to connect the last chain.

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Today we were planning on doing a 3v3 draft with M12, marking the first M12 draft for our group (we're all friends). And it'll probably be a light day as many people are out of town, so if I don't go there is a chance the draft may not happen.

BUT

GF REALLY wants to see me, hint hint wink wink.

What do I do? Obviously happy to go play with her instead of cards, but possibly preventing my friends from playing Magic also makes it seem very selfish.

Not really.
The others may be upset but come on...play cards game w/ other dudes or play with GF.

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Super-awkward question I need answered in a jiffy...

Today we were planning on doing a 3v3 draft with M12, marking the first M12 draft for our group (we're all friends). And it'll probably be a light day as many people are out of town, so if I don't go there is a chance the draft may not happen.

BUT

GF REALLY wants to see me, hint hint wink wink.

What do I do? Obviously happy to go play with her instead of cards, but possibly preventing my friends from playing Magic also makes it seem very selfish.

HELP!

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The guys in your group will also understand the importance of spending time with your significant other and the fact that drafting vs. alone time with your gf are two very different things.

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If you have any girls in your group, they'll understand the importance of spending time with your significant other.

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And since they aren't playing magic without you, you can invite them to meet your girlfriend. Time to start a new playgroup!

Yeah, today we had a Herniorraphy (hernia repair). I held the clips/hemostats, cut the sutures, all the while as the doc was quizzing me on my anatomy (boo).

A couple of things that have surprised me in the past two days:

1. The MINIMAL amount of blood. Literally, the hernia repair only lost 10 ml of blood. And the Lap Chole was only 50 ml of blood. Not even worth a transfusion!
2. I still slightly cringe inside when they start the incision. I think it's a human response. I still haven't beenm able to not do it. I understand it doesn't hurt, but damn it looks brutal (especially when the doc took out 4 sebaceous cysts in some girl's head yesterday in the clinic [with novacaine injections none-the-less). Crazy stuff.

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yaku,
I have no idea what I want to do yet. This is my first clinical rotation/clerkship so I have no clue yet. I've thought about just about everything, so we'll see.

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Well, you have some time to think about it and the rotations should give you some broad experience and expose you to what you do and don't like. I knew a pre-med who initially wanted to do Geriatric medicine and changed his mind, since his main motivation was really clinical research (on diseases that afflict the elderly such as Alzheimer's), not actually, you know - dealing with old people.

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1. The MINIMAL amount of blood. Literally, the hernia repair only lost 10 ml of blood. And the Lap Chole was only 50 ml of blood. Not even worth a transfusion!
2. I still slightly cringe inside when they start the incision. I think it's a human response.

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#1 is pretty amazing. I think the Red Cross takes more blood for testing samples when I do donations than that. I'm currently going through the Star Trek: Deep Space 9 series and while some of the stuff that Dr. Bashir does is simply based on the dreams and imaginations of writers and consultants, I also sometimes think that we aren't three centuries into the future removed from some of the things they're using in medicine. A medical tricorder, a hypospray, and superfast DNA analysis by a computer might all be seen within our lifetimes.

#2 - my lab partner was squeamish about the initial incisions, but my teacher made it quite clear that everyone had to participate and lack of participation would ultimately just mean you do poorly on the practical exam. To borrow a line from a famous doctor about being too moved by your patients - "The bad news is you never get over it. The good news is... you never get over it."

Hopefully it'll mean you'll have a better than average bedside manner, being more sensitive to the patient and their well being.

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And while we're on brag posts, i'm totally having a slumber party with some girls tonight.

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Oh yeah, well tonight I'm...

... NOT going to be talking with any girls, unless there happens to be some playing computer games online. I've only been to two slumber parties, one where there were only boys and one where I was the only boy. Once I got to college, sleeping in the same building with a bunch of other people was called a dorm (or a really good party when you need to sleep at your friend's apartment/house).

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Playing Shandalar with 3x Black Lotus, 4x Ancestral Recall , 2x Time Walk and many Moxens/Demonic Tutors.

I love beating sorcerer's that copies cards

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