posted June 10, 2014 02:59 PM            

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Originally posted by qqjackie:
Sure people can “default” blame me.

Is it better to have a culture of blame without sufficient evidence, and is that the healthiest thing for a trading website? Does that mean they are correct? Does it diminish or deflect the actions of others?

You can point to me all you want, and call me names. But I think it speaks to a different issue when moderators club all the rippers into a single thread. When they remove themselves from reason, and allow other repeat rippers to have blame deflected from them.

You can state that these individuals and myself are from Canada, and that there is the possibility that we are connected. You can do that and not be mistaken. But it is something else to assume we are the same individual, which is what you and other moderators have done. You have made room for error, and now you are attempting to justify it.

It is a failure to be honest, and a failure to keep (other) people accountable.

These forums are in need of an update, and if you would adopt a system where e-mails were not revealed (like most websites), it would eliminate a lot of problems you see here today. We all know new rippers will emerge, they will continue to emerge, but the question is how are you going to address the problem.

Pointing to me - the supposed first hacker - is not the solution.

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posted June 10, 2014 03:25 PM            

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Originally posted by qqjackie:
This isn’t a defence on what I have done.

No attempt has been made to deny previous actions, but I am pointing out assumptions being made on emerging cases.

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posted June 10, 2014 03:36 PM            

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Originally posted by qqjackie:
This isn’t a defence on what I have done.

No attempt has been made to deny previous actions, but I am pointing out assumptions being made on emerging cases.

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posted June 10, 2014 03:42 PM            

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Originally posted by sdarmst107:
so you openly acknowledge you have committed mail fraud?

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He's openly admitted it several times to my recollection. In fact, I still have the emails we traded back and forth when, for some reason, he grew a conscience and sent me back several people's cards.

Does it matter?

Thanks,
Jazaray

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posted June 10, 2014 03:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Jazaray:
He's openly admitted it several times to my recollection. In fact, I still have the emails we traded back and forth when, for some reason, he grew a conscience and sent me back several people's cards.

Does it matter?

Thanks,
Jazaray

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Let me make a suggestion: Just as you put my name on all the pages, I would suggest doing something similar with “known scam method.” It would draw attention, and perhaps, people would look out for some of the indicators.

posted June 10, 2014 04:03 PM            

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Originally posted by qqjackie:

Let me make a suggestion: Just as you put my name on all the pages, I would suggest doing something similar with “known scam method.” It would draw attention, and perhaps, people would look out for some of the indicators.

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Let me make a suggestion to you.

posted June 10, 2014 04:06 PM            

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Originally posted by paragondave:
Let me make a suggestion to you.

.45, right temple, your's.

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That's NOT nice! Be considerate Dave!!...
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What if he's a lefty?

Thanks,
Jazaray

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posted June 10, 2014 04:06 PM            

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Originally posted by qqjackie:

Let me make a suggestion: Just as you put my name on all the pages, I would suggest doing something similar with “known scam method.” It would draw attention, and perhaps, people would look out for some of the indicators.

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Why would we do that for when the biggest culprit of it all is you? Enjoy your infamy.

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posted June 10, 2014 04:16 PM            

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Originally posted by qqjackie:

Let me make a suggestion: Just as you put my name on all the pages, I would suggest doing something similar with “known scam method.” It would draw attention, and perhaps, people would look out for some of the indicators.

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here is a suggestion, leave this site and never return, your address is posted all over this site, and you're very unliked. I'd rather us Canadians (especially in the Ottawa area, such as myself) not have it any harder to make trades due to your idiotic mistakes.

posted June 10, 2014 04:42 PM            

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Originally posted by paragondave:
Let me make a suggestion to you.

.45, right temple, your's.

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posted June 10, 2014 06:37 PM         

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posted June 11, 2014 12:28 AM            

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Originally posted by qqjackie:
You can state that these individuals and myself are from Canada, and that there is the possibility that we are connected. You can do that and not be mistaken.

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So wait you're admitting that you collaborate with other rippers? That sounds...unsettling. Well I for one actually appreciate all this because it will allow me to modify my claim against the culprit with the Quebec PD.

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posted June 12, 2014 10:56 AM            

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Originally posted by dwchang:
So wait you're admitting that you collaborate with other rippers? That sounds...unsettling. Well I for one actually appreciate all this because it will allow me to modify my claim against the culprit with the Quebec PD.

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posted June 12, 2014 11:33 AM            

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Originally posted by chaos021:
Maybe it's me, but the point qqjackie makes about the forum needing an update in the way it operates seems appropriate. Simple things like being able to sticky a closed, info thread that can only be updated by mods with the type of info qqjackie suggests (markers for being scammed) seems like an amazingly easy idea to deploy. I mean it's cool that we have a huge link at the top of the site that tells us all about John Whatever, but he's not the only one. A link with more information for newer traders would be far more useful (assuming some of you still know how to read or find info, which is questionable).

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It’s not just you.

The members here are in denial, and John Strickland could be far more a problem than they understand. We can see that Jazaray remained silent in the face of reason; this is an emotional woman, with little to no power. There is an immaturity about the magic community, and she is no different.

There is a bigger issue than being ****ed off at John. While the experienced members are fine, the new traders are vulnerable. The emerging ripper will engage in predatory behavior, and the new users will be targeted. Even if a user is wise enough to spot an old account, and to request to have that person send first, what is stopping them from playing along? They could pretend to send first. There could be numerous victims before the account is shutdown.

But instead of addressing the problem, it is easier for them to point to John Strickland. Even though these address are five hours away, there is no connection to be made other than sharing a state. But it is so easy. Is that the best Jazaray and the moderator team can do?

This is not a secure trading forum, these forums have been the same for the last decade. There will always be rippers, there will always be people looking take advantage. There is no shortage of confirmed rippers, and new users will be snuffed out here. But instead of keeping people accountable, deflecting blame as an easy way out, and making appropriate motions to help protect the most vulnerable people here, they demonstrate how powerless they are.

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posted June 12, 2014 09:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Child of Gaea:
What these guys must do is not hacking old accounts. Its simply using the information the site readily gives you. I thought about how to do it for about 5 minutes and then felt stupid for not thinking of it in 5 seconds. Even though this would have affected me, if you have banning power, ban all accounts over one year inactive and it would be 99.9% done.

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posted June 13, 2014 04:56 PM            

Seriously, how many times do I have to tell people? I CAN'T DO ANYTHING. I can ban, I can fix emails, I can warn, I can post announcements, I can open and close threads. That's ALL.

I try my best to keep the different Canadian rippers separate. Yes, it was my fault that I didn't notice the address was from Quebec and not Ontario. Whoops. I'm human, just like anyone else I make mistakes. I caught on that Peter MacNamara wasn't you though, and he even lives in Ontario. No props for that?

Me and the other Moderating staff, we do what we can to try and make this a safer place for everyone, but we can only do so much. This IS the best we can do. I'm sorry if it's not enough.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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A soft warm embrace,
And a whole lot of bedroom pizzazz.

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posted June 13, 2014 06:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Jazaray:
Me and the other Moderating staff, we do what we can to try and make this a safer place for everyone, but we can only do so much. This IS the best we can do. I'm sorry if it's not enough.

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Don't be sorry. You have nothing to be sorry for. The mod staff is the reason there's still anyone here.

posted June 13, 2014 06:25 PM         

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Originally posted by JoshSherman:
Don't be sorry. You have nothing to be sorry for. The mod staff is the reason there's still anyone here.

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Truth.

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posted June 15, 2014 11:45 AM            

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Originally posted by JoshSherman:
Don't be sorry. You have nothing to be sorry for. The mod staff is the reason there's still anyone here.

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