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Topic: Calling All MOTLers!!
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WeedIan Member
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posted January 04, 2013 06:17 AM
The weird thing is there's no actually hacking.Its just finding an account that uses an expired free email account.I'm sure he can also be reported for breaking Terms and Services of X companies free email clients. __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 12000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 2nd in posts in Canada 10th in posts on MOTL 5th in Refs in Ontario Pushing to get to top 100 in MOTL Refs
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wayne Member
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posted January 04, 2013 06:36 AM
We do have a Canadian mod . Maybe he can shed more insight as to how the law there works. Edit: typo
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Moonkeeper Member
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posted January 04, 2013 06:52 AM
When he ripped me he used the name "J. Austin S."
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RJCarrot Member
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posted January 04, 2013 07:14 AM
Just have everyone here sign him up for mailings for obsene adult website mailings, give him something to sort through before he finds his ripped cards =)
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RJCarrot Member
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posted January 04, 2013 07:19 AM
quote: Originally posted by dontgetcaught: If people want to chuck in on shipping, I'd ship him a bag of my cats litter box leftovers, video myself doing it and post it on YouTube.
Problem with this is that it goes against the mail shipping of biohazards. I hope you are sending it in the appropriate sealed biohazard labeled packaging =) Signing the guy up to adult websites is much safer =)
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Goaswerfraiejen Member
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posted January 04, 2013 08:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by Link139232: Whatever happened to him realizing the error of his ways?I thought he turned over a new leaf when he returned everyone's stuff. Sad :/ I've been personally ripped by him, so I will help spread the word.
He never returned my stuff. =/ I'll give the Ottawa police department a call again, and see if they can reopen the mail fraud case they never bothered investigating. I suggest others do the same, if you want anything done about it. __________________ "I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each. I do not think they will sing to me." -T.S. EliotRIP Ari Legacy UGB River Rock primer. PM comments/questions. Info on grad school in Phil.
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junichi Moderator
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posted January 04, 2013 09:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by wayne: We do have a Canadian mod . Maybe he can shed more insight as to how the law there works. Edit: typo
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/scams-fraudes/shop-magasinage-eng.htm __________________ ****Attention****DO NOT send cards to Jon Strickland, 1971 St.Laurent Blvd Apt 705, Ottawa Ontario, Canada K1G 3P8. He is a known ripper/hacker.
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Myy Member
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posted January 04, 2013 10:36 AM
quote: Originally posted by Goaswerfraiejen: He never returned my stuff. =/I'll give the Ottawa police department a call again, and see if they can reopen the mail fraud case they never bothered investigating. I suggest others do the same, if you want anything done about it.
they usually have a case #, can't more people call in and reference that number stating that they've talked to other victims and want something done. I've seen police and detectives don't really care for small $$$ theft. but IF enough people call in week after week, I believe they will finally do something. it's just a matter of how many people call in. Myy
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MagicMouse Member
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posted January 04, 2013 04:47 PM
It seems everyone who traded with this person has sent their cards to an apartment address. It is very likely that he is no longer there and with no real name, it will be very difficult to track him down. Perhaps someone can call the landlord and request information on who is living or lived in that address during the time frame that these incidents took place?
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gregmacknass Member
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posted January 04, 2013 06:24 PM
http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/john-strickland/22/247/177 Is this the person^
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dewloren New Member
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posted January 04, 2013 06:33 PM
http://www.whitepages.com/name/K-Abdureselam/Ottawa-ON/2pjr0tvLol @ all the listed people, but his phone number is listed there.
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Jazaray Moderator
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posted January 05, 2013 07:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by MagicMouse: It seems everyone who traded with this person has sent their cards to an apartment address. It is very likely that he is no longer there and with no real name, it will be very difficult to track him down. Perhaps someone can call the landlord and request information on who is living or lived in that address during the time frame that these incidents took place?
Yes, it's an apartment address. He lives there, it's been confirmed. I have no idea what you mean by "no real name". His name is John Strickland, which was also confirmed. Someone did call the landlord, which is how all of this was confirmed. After several emails from John the other night, he's informed me that he won't be back to MOTL. Yeah, we'll see how that goes. Thanks, Jazaray
__________________ A Plastered Dragon Original Limerick: There was a nice lassie named Jaz Many wished to have what she has, A delicate face, A soft warm embrace, And a whole lot of bedroom pizzazz.WeedIan: Jazaray is like MOTL's Mom. Melaleuca, go ahead, ask me what it is...
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Xaol Member
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posted January 05, 2013 12:40 PM
Just noticed this thread. I, too, have been ripped by this guy. I didn't want to report it because he told me he'd send me a Thragtusk for me waiting so long. Then he never responded! I lost a lot of money to this guy, but when I went to report him all of our PM's had been pushed to the bottom and subsequently deleted. I'm happy others have voiced their stories as well.
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Goaswerfraiejen Member
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posted January 05, 2013 01:15 PM
FWIW, my file number, back when I filed for mail fraud, was 06-113128 (Ottawa PD). __________________ "I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each. I do not think they will sing to me." -T.S. EliotRIP Ari Legacy UGB River Rock primer. PM comments/questions. Info on grad school in Phil.
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barrin6rr Member
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posted January 05, 2013 01:49 PM
does anybody knows someone that can hack (at a pro level), and get information from IP, mail or whatever so you can get real information from him (phone, address or real name). From there, its just a mtter of time to hire some motl canadian member and do a visit to this guy and put the things clear.I would gladly send a buck for this deal.
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stinkinogre Member
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posted January 05, 2013 01:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by barrin6rr: does anybody knows someone that can hack (at a pro level), and get information from IP, mail or whatever so you can get real information from him (phone, address or real name). From there, its just a mtter of time to hire some motl canadian member and do a visit to this guy and put the things clear.I would gladly send a buck for this deal.
Having someone go to this guys work or household is a bad idea. If you don't even know personal information, how would you know he isn't dangerous. I mean seriously it is just stupid and no amount of wrongs this guy has done is worth the risk of that. Keep calling the PO PO and let them do their job. They are paid for this.
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Goaswerfraiejen Member
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posted January 05, 2013 02:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by stinkinogre: Having someone go to this guys work or household is a bad idea. If you don't even know personal information, how would you know he isn't dangerous. I mean seriously it is just stupid and no amount of wrongs this guy has done is worth the risk of that. Keep calling the PO PO and let them do their job. They are paid for this.
Chime. Not to mention that fighting crime with crime isn't the most brilliant strategy, especially if you then call up the cops. __________________ "I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each. I do not think they will sing to me." -T.S. EliotRIP Ari Legacy UGB River Rock primer. PM comments/questions. Info on grad school in Phil.
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revenger Member
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posted January 05, 2013 06:13 PM
Why not post this guy on everything that is legit? twiiter, facebook, personal web pages. Everything! The more people know of him, the less damage he can do. Think bout it, how do u think he'll respond if theres a big ripper warning on starcitys home page? or tcgplayers home page? even salvation. __________________ Your 2008 & 2010 Siskel & Ebert award winner!32nd in refs on Motl! #1 Ref's for Arizona! I offer 3rd party trading services. Email if interested.
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guruswamp Member
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posted January 05, 2013 08:09 PM
You guys honestly think someone who steals magic cards over the internet is dangerous? Imma call my 6' 300lb buddy in ottawa and get him to go to dudes house and take ALL his cards and send them to me so i can return what was stolen. Maybe bitch slap the guy a couple times. Seriously though. Some people need to learn the hard way
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Jazaray Moderator
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posted January 05, 2013 08:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by guruswamp: You guys honestly think someone who steals magic cards over the internet is dangerous? Imma call my 6' 300lb buddy in ottawa and get him to go to dudes house and take ALL his cards and send them to me so i can return what was stolen. Maybe bitch slap the guy a couple times. Seriously though. Some people need to learn the hard way
You have NO IDEA who this individual is. He could very well be dangerous. You don't know him. Aside from that, it's illegal to do what you're proposing. Violence is NEVER the answer. Seriously, listen to yourself. "I'm gonna go and do illegal stuff to prove to him that doing illegal stuff is bad." Really? And you think that your "Friend" is going to get the cards? What he'll get is a prison sentence, and the cards will be placed into evidence, or just given back to John. IF he even has them anymore. I don't want to hear any more talk about going to beat him up. It's ridiculous. Thanks, Jazaray
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Goaswerfraiejen Member
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posted January 06, 2013 07:17 AM
quote: Originally posted by guruswamp: You guys honestly think someone who steals magic cards over the internet is dangerous? Imma call my 6' 300lb buddy in ottawa and get him to go to dudes house and take ALL his cards and send them to me so i can return what was stolen. Maybe bitch slap the guy a couple times. Seriously though. Some people need to learn the hard way
Don't talk like a 12-year old idiot. Jaz is completely right: you have no bloody clue who or what this person is, and you'll just screw things up for everyone, you and your friend included. If someone gets hurt doing that, Strickland is off the hook for it because it was self-defence, and you get stuck with an assault charge. Even if you get away, you need to realize that while the police might not haul ass to investigate mail fraud, they sure will to investigate assault.
Besides, this guy's not some kid in a corner of his parents' house. He's been listed as a known telephone fraudster for years--even before he started ripping on MOTL. He's not just hanging on to the cards, he's reselling them on ebay, kijiji, LGSes, etc. And it's not just cards, it's money, too. How do you propose to get everyone's money back? Go through his wallet? Steal his credit card? That's moronic. Don't do it. If it happens, I'm pointing the cops right in your direction. I know you're angry, but we have a legal system for a reason. Use it, and maybe our combined weight will suffice to finally get something done. I started the procedure six years ago. If everyone else chips in, you can finish it. __________________ "I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each. I do not think they will sing to me." -T.S. EliotRIP Ari Legacy UGB River Rock primer. PM comments/questions. Info on grad school in Phil.
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hellolukemoto Member
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posted January 06, 2013 08:59 AM
i will post this in my list thank you
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ason81 Member
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posted January 07, 2013 10:59 AM
perhaps if all the trades went through a moderator, no one would need registered mail, and could just send (with the cards) a postage paid addressed envelope to the mod of that trade ... then the mod would know who owes, and could return the cards if the other end is a ripper.
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walkerdog Member
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posted January 07, 2013 11:14 AM
Do you know how many trades MOTL facilitates? Mods don't have hours to process trades each day.
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fedorables Member
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posted January 07, 2013 11:45 AM
Plus, if they make a mistake (which is bound to happen sooner or later, we're all only human after all), they'd be exposed to being filed against for mail fraud for a simple accident. It'd put them at a huge risk. Even waiving their responsibilities doesn't fully protect them in some circumstances that would come up with the number of trades they'd be moderating.__________________ ლ(ಠ益ಠლ This signature belongs to fedorables. Please return if found.
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