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Jazaray
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posted January 01, 2013 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jazaray   Click Here to Email Jazaray     
quote:
Originally posted by thror:
So, why arent we fixing the exploit that is letting this asshat hack accounts?


Got any suggestions, Oh King of Dwarves?

Thanks,
Jazaray

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Many wished to have what she has,
A delicate face,
A soft warm embrace,
And a whole lot of bedroom pizzazz.

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Melaleuca, go ahead, ask me what it is...


dwiz
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posted January 01, 2013 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dwiz   Click Here to Email dwiz     
quote:
Originally posted by Jazaray:
Got any suggestions, Oh King of Dwarves?

Thanks,
Jazaray


How does this joker get away with this continually? It's obviously against the law to steal from people over and over again, yet he targets this website and steals from people, gets banned, rejoins and steals again. Isn't it time to get the law involved?

Alcatraz8
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posted January 02, 2013 05:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alcatraz8   Click Here to Email Alcatraz8     
added to my H/W list! Hopefully it helps.


B14ckM4g3
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posted January 02, 2013 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for B14ckM4g3   Click Here to Email B14ckM4g3     
Why not just add something to the bulletin boards main page? Really, simple solution to tell 55000 people but the option to have 10-30 people who frequent these boards and may do something about it outweighs it.

MOTL = 90 year old man. Gotta do it the old-fashioned way. Uphill, both ways.

Jazaray
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posted January 03, 2013 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jazaray   Click Here to Email Jazaray     
quote:
Originally posted by B14ckM4g3:
Why not just add something to the bulletin boards main page? Really, simple solution to tell 55000 people but the option to have 10-30 people who frequent these boards and may do something about it outweighs it.

MOTL = 90 year old man. Gotta do it the old-fashioned way. Uphill, both ways.


How about because I can't add anything to the BB main page? How about because most people come directly to the forums and don't bother reading the main page? We're doing everything that we can to try and stop this jerk from doing what he's doing, I'm sorry it's not enough for you.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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A Plastered Dragon Original Limerick:
There was a nice lassie named Jaz
Many wished to have what she has,
A delicate face,
A soft warm embrace,
And a whole lot of bedroom pizzazz.

WeedIan: Jazaray is like MOTL's Mom.

Melaleuca, go ahead, ask me what it is...


[Edited 1 times, lastly by Jazaray on January 03, 2013]


WeedIan
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posted January 03, 2013 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WeedIan   Click Here to Email WeedIan     
quote:
Originally posted by B14ckM4g3:
Why not just add something to the bulletin boards main page? Really, simple solution to tell 55000 people but the option to have 10-30 people who frequent these boards and may do something about it outweighs it.

MOTL = 90 year old man. Gotta do it the old-fashioned way. Uphill, both ways.


Most people on this site don't even read the rules let alone a warning about one guy.

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paragondave
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posted January 03, 2013 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for paragondave   Click Here to Email paragondave     
quote:
Originally posted by psrex:
I've added a more general variant:

If enough people do this, hopefully this will instill good trading habits for newer members.


stolen!

and added to my lists.

B14ckM4g3
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posted January 03, 2013 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for B14ckM4g3   Click Here to Email B14ckM4g3     
quote:
Originally posted by Jazaray:
How about because I can't add anything to the BB main page? How about because most people come directly to the forums and don't bother reading the main page? We're doing everything that we can to try and stop this jerk from doing what he's doing, I'm sorry it's not enough for you.

Thanks,
Jazaray


A) I didn't say anything about the main page
B) As MOTL's mom, you SHOULD have the power to do this simple task
C) Anyone who has interest in this site as a figure of authority should make it their duty to warn everyone. It would be very easy to modify a small portion of the site to say such a thing as a header, and I would do it myself if I was given the power for 15 minutes.
D) Anyone who has interest in using this site for trading should be aware of the risks.
E) Why has nobody beat the living tar out of John already, or pressed charges, or etc. etc.
F) Don't be sorry to me. The guy never ripped me off and I am wary when dealing with people and do a background check on them and their references.
G) I don't do much trading on here anymore as the shipping rulings and people waiving liability has removed much interest in it for me. All my deals have a necessary $200ish minimum to make the $30 shipping worth it. Which doesn't usually happen.

Edit:

Correction:
We're doing everything that we can to try and stop this jerk from doing what he's doing, I'm sorry it's not enough for you.

No. YOU as in JAZARAY are doing everything YOU can to stop this jerk. We're doing very little, as a community. We're doing nothing, as in the other mods/admins

Edit again:
As I finished that edit and went back to the main boards, what do I see? A big ripper warning. For John. Really, how hard was that?

[Edited 2 times, lastly by B14ckM4g3 on January 03, 2013]


Jazaray
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posted January 03, 2013 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jazaray   Click Here to Email Jazaray     
quote:
Originally posted by B14ckM4g3:
A) I didn't say anything about the main page
B) As MOTL's mom, you SHOULD have the power to do this simple task
C) Anyone who has interest in this site as a figure of authority should make it their duty to warn everyone. It would be very easy to modify a small portion of the site to say such a thing as a header, and I would do it myself if I was given the power for 15 minutes.
D) Anyone who has interest in using this site for trading should be aware of the risks.
E) Why has nobody beat the living tar out of John already, or pressed charges, or etc. etc.
F) Don't be sorry to me. The guy never ripped me off and I am wary when dealing with people and do a background check on them and their references.
G) I don't do much trading on here anymore as the shipping rulings and people waiving liability has removed much interest in it for me. All my deals have a necessary $200ish minimum to make the $30 shipping worth it. Which doesn't usually happen.

Edit:

Correction:
We're doing everything that we can to try and stop this jerk from doing what he's doing, I'm sorry it's not enough for you.

No. YOU as in JAZARAY are doing everything YOU can to stop this jerk. We're doing very little, as a community. We're doing nothing, as in the other mods/admins


A) Yes, you did. You said "The bulletin boards main page". How is that not saying anything about the main page?

B) The title "MOTL's Mom" isn't like.. an actual title. I'm just a plain old moderator, with plain old moderator abilities. Weedian gave me that title long, long ago, before I was even modded.

C) Actually, after what you said, I got to thinking about what nouveaux did with the red tagline we had on the site for a while, so I emailed him and I'm happy to say there should be a nice ripper alert on each and every forum, with a link here.

D) We try to make everyone aware of the risks, but we can't go to each members house and make them read the rules, read the BTA and trade safely. We can only tell them how to do so.

E) I can't answer this, except to say that violence (IMHO) is not the answer.

F) Good, My fondest wish is that every MOTLer will do such a thing.

G) There's nothing I can do about that. We need to have rules to protect everyone and the rules we set are the best ones we could come up with for a site such as this.

Correction) I think that we, as a community, are doing everything we can. That's why I MADE this thread, to encourage our community to help stop this ass. Yet you complain that it's not enough, I don't understand. Not to mention the other mods are doing just as much as I am, I don't understand where you get the idea that they aren't.

Thanks,
Jazaray

__________________
A Plastered Dragon Original Limerick:
There was a nice lassie named Jaz
Many wished to have what she has,
A delicate face,
A soft warm embrace,
And a whole lot of bedroom pizzazz.

WeedIan: Jazaray is like MOTL's Mom.

Melaleuca, go ahead, ask me what it is...


B14ckM4g3
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posted January 03, 2013 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for B14ckM4g3   Click Here to Email B14ckM4g3     
quote:
Originally posted by Jazaray:
A) Yes, you did. You said "The bulletin boards main page". How is that not saying anything about the main page?

B) The title "MOTL's Mom" isn't like.. an actual title. I'm just a plain old moderator, with plain old moderator abilities. Weedian gave me that title long, long ago, before I was even modded.

C) Actually, after what you said, I got to thinking about what nouveaux did with the red tagline we had on the site for a while, so I emailed him and I'm happy to say there should be a nice ripper alert on each and every forum, with a link here.

D) We try to make everyone aware of the risks, but we can't go to each members house and make them read the rules, read the BTA and trade safely. We can only tell them how to do so.

E) I can't answer this, except to say that violence (IMHO) is not the answer.

F) Good, My fondest wish is that every MOTLer will do such a thing.

G) There's nothing I can do about that. We need to have rules to protect everyone and the rules we set are the best ones we could come up with for a site such as this.

Correction) I think that we, as a community, are doing everything we can. That's why I MADE this thread, to encourage our community to help stop this ass. Yet you complain that it's not enough, I don't understand. Not to mention the other mods are doing just as much as I am, I don't understand where you get the idea that they aren't.

Thanks,
Jazaray


A) Bulletin Boards main page is the main page where the links to the bulletin boards (like this one) is. The main page is the main page, the page you go when you type magictraders.com into the url browser. The BB Main Page is the link available at the top of the main page. Or, at least, this is how I see it.

B) It is a title. It's how we know you. And for all the time you've been on this site, you should have admins power levels. Anyone who disagrees is a fool and hasn't spent enough time on this site to see your name on almost EVERY SINGLE TOPIC in any thread that has people bickering. And if you haven't posted, I know you've read it. Because you are MOTL'S mom!

C) Noted, commented already in edit 2 above

D) If you're not familiar with the rules, you lose the game. It's literally something you learn playing magic. Apply it to life. Can't hold everybodys hand all at once.

E) Ghandi, the largest advocate against violent behavior, himself, is NOT against violence. Sometimes it is the only answer. This may or may not be the case, but it is a true statement.

F) Same here, then these threads wouldn't exist

G) Site still needs a superoverhaul.


Correction) Pointing out something obvious with narcissism isn't a complaint. It's called:
SAYING IT LIKE IT IS or CALLS IT LIKE I SEES IT
And the community in reference here is less than 20 people who have posted on this thread.
And as for the other mods, it's called public appearance. How much respect does Leshrac get for this site? Honestly, as I have noticed: It's not much. Kudos for building it, sadface for the abandonment.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by B14ckM4g3 on January 03, 2013]


junichi
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posted January 03, 2013 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for junichi   Click Here to Email junichi     
Please stay on topic. Suggestions or complaints of the website can go here.

This thread should focus on John Strickland, not mod/admin's power level, website overhaul, or why Ghandi is spelled Gandhi.

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Jazaray
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posted January 03, 2013 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jazaray   Click Here to Email Jazaray     
quote:
Originally posted by B14ckM4g3:
A) Bulletin Boards main page is the main page where the links to the bulletin boards (like this one) is. The main page is the main page, the page you go when you type magictraders.com into the url browser. The BB Main Page is the link available at the top of the main page. Or, at least, this is how I see it.

B) It is a title. It's how we know you. And for all the time you've been on this site, you should have admins power levels. Anyone who disagrees is a fool and hasn't spent enough time on this site to see your name on almost EVERY SINGLE TOPIC in any thread that has people bickering. And if you haven't posted, I know you've read it. Because you are MOTL'S mom!

C) Noted, commented already in edit 2 above

D) If you're not familiar with the rules, you lose the game. It's literally something you learn playing magic. Apply it to life. Can't hold everybodys hand all at once.

E) Ghandi, the largest advocate against violent behavior, himself, is NOT against violence. Sometimes it is the only answer. This may or may not be the case, but it is a true statement.

F) Same here, then these threads wouldn't exist

G) Site still needs a superoverhaul.


Correction) Pointing out something obvious with narcissism isn't a complaint. It's called:
SAYING IT LIKE IT IS or CALLS IT LIKE I SEES IT
And the community in reference here is less than 20 people who have posted on this thread.
And as for the other mods, it's called public appearance. How much respect does Leshrac get for this site? Honestly, as I have noticed: It's not much. Kudos for building it, sadface for the abandonment.


A) Well, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that one. When I think of the main page, I think of the actual main page.

B) Yes, I do understand that's how I'm thought of, and I take that title to heart, believe me. It just doesn't mean anything to "the powers that be". Pointing out how I have no life so I can be on, or read, every topic isn't nice. Regardless, I'm still just a mod. You know what mods can do on this site? They can open/close/edit threads/posts in their assigned forums. They can smack/ban people in their assigned forums, they can fix email addresses and make announcements (IE: The forum rules on each forum). That's it. We can't mess with the site itself at all. And, I'm sorry to say, but I would make a horrible admin! I have no idea how to do what Nouv does, I know next to nothing about computer programming and all. Heck, I can't even make my computer's Shockwave Player thing stop crashing.

C) oh.

D) I agree, but I still try.

E) Really? I didn't know that. I still say that getting yourself thrown into jail for beating up a loser like this guy isn't worth it.

F) Agreed.

G) Such as?

Correction) Well, it's still complaining Yes, there haven't been a whole ton of people posting on this thread, but who's to say that they just didn't feel like posting and added the warning anyways?

Look Mage, I don't want to argue with you. We both want the same thing here, for this guy to get what's coming to him, whatever that may be. We both want the users on this site to trade more safely.

We're a community here, a family in my opinion, and we all need to work together to help keep this the best site ever!

Thanks,
Jazaray

Edit: Ouch! Taken to task by junichi I'll never be the same again.
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A Plastered Dragon Original Limerick:
There was a nice lassie named Jaz
Many wished to have what she has,
A delicate face,
A soft warm embrace,
And a whole lot of bedroom pizzazz.

WeedIan: Jazaray is like MOTL's Mom.

Melaleuca, go ahead, ask me what it is...


[Edited 1 times, lastly by Jazaray on January 03, 2013]


MeddlingMage
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posted January 03, 2013 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MeddlingMage   Click Here to Email MeddlingMage     
quote:
Originally posted by Jazaray:

We're a community here, a family in my opinion, and we all need to work together to help keep this the best site ever!

Thanks,
Jazaray


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B14ckM4g3
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posted January 03, 2013 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for B14ckM4g3   Click Here to Email B14ckM4g3     
Jaz, while I may disagree with you on some parts, I have nothing but respect for you.
And if I lived near John, I would make his life hell.


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posted January 03, 2013 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for majicman   Click Here to Email majicman     
Jaz and Mods,

Kudos to you to put the banner heading up at the top of the bulletin boards. That should help out.

You are all doing a great job and I know you do this out of the kindness of your heart.

I think emotions set in with everyone when you have some bad apples (rippers) ruin the reason why this forum exists: for bring people together about the enjoyment of gaming (MTG and all inclusive).

I'd give you a big bear hug if I could!!

Thank you for doing what you do!

Regards...Greg

DrowSwordmaster
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posted January 03, 2013 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DrowSwordmaster   Click Here to Email DrowSwordmaster     
we have his address, why not just ship him 100+ boxes of dog ****?


internetfett
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Lovely idea.


dscherli
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posted January 03, 2013 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dscherli   Click Here to Email dscherli     
Does anyone know if John Strickland is his real name? Anyone have any other names he has used other than those listed? Haven't met anyone around here by that name that I can remember and I play all over the city, but I'll ask around.


Jazaray
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posted January 03, 2013 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jazaray   Click Here to Email Jazaray     
quote:
Originally posted by dscherli:
Does anyone know if John Strickland is his real name? Anyone have any other names he has used other than those listed? Haven't met anyone around here by that name that I can remember and I play all over the city, but I'll ask around.

All of the information that we currently have on John is provided in the first post on the thread. If I had any other information about other names, I would have posted it.

There is some random information on his reinhart/ripper thread. More about him and stuff. http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/005199.html

From the information that UncleIsty was able to get, that is his real name and real address.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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A Plastered Dragon Original Limerick:
There was a nice lassie named Jaz
Many wished to have what she has,
A delicate face,
A soft warm embrace,
And a whole lot of bedroom pizzazz.

WeedIan: Jazaray is like MOTL's Mom.

Melaleuca, go ahead, ask me what it is...


Bagbokk
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posted January 03, 2013 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bagbokk   Click Here to Email Bagbokk     
If he was in the US I could look into doing something, but Canada...


dontgetcaught
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If people want to chuck in on shipping, I'd ship him a bag of my cats litter box leftovers, video myself doing it and post it on YouTube.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by dontgetcaught on January 03, 2013]


B14ckM4g3
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posted January 03, 2013 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for B14ckM4g3   Click Here to Email B14ckM4g3     
quote:
Originally posted by dontgetcaught:
If people want to chuck in on shipping, I'd ship him a bag of my cats litter box leftovers, video myself doing it and post it on YouTube.

I'm in

Jazaray
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posted January 03, 2013 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jazaray   Click Here to Email Jazaray     
quote:
Originally posted by dontgetcaught:
If people want to chuck in on shipping, I'd ship him a bag of my cats litter box leftovers, video myself doing it and post it on YouTube.

Just uhh.. don't get caught. Hee hee..

No, seriously guys. That's kinda childish no? Not to mention illegal and hazardous.

Yes, something needs to be done. But really, that's not it.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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A Plastered Dragon Original Limerick:
There was a nice lassie named Jaz
Many wished to have what she has,
A delicate face,
A soft warm embrace,
And a whole lot of bedroom pizzazz.

WeedIan: Jazaray is like MOTL's Mom.

Melaleuca, go ahead, ask me what it is...


teroknorevents
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posted January 03, 2013 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teroknorevents   Click Here to Email teroknorevents     
quote:
Originally posted by DrowSwordmaster:
we have his address, why not just ship him 100+ boxes of dog ****?

Mailing that is a felony in the US, probably in Canada as well, & 100+ calls to RCMP about him would be far more effective in shutting him down?

Vegas10
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posted January 04, 2013 05:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vegas10   Click Here to Email Vegas10     
quote:
Originally posted by DrowSwordmaster:
we have his address, why not just ship him 100+ boxes of dog ****?

Since we have his address and he lives in Canada, can a canadian member here get the Canada Post Office to investigate him for fraud? I'm sure the mods could provide the evidence of him ripping people here, and the members who have been ripped I'm sure would be willing to email, call or whatever to help get this guy. just a thought, maybe this has already been tried to and I just don't know about it, just trying to come up with ideas, now he is flaunting it on the site openening up new acconts just to rub in how he can create fake accounts, which he used just to taunt MOTL and specifically Jaz. However this also means at any time he can try to scam again here hopefully the MOTL community can come up with a better way to prevent idiots like this in the future from doing more of this crap.

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