posted April 20, 2014 07:22 PM            

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Originally posted by MacNamara:
I already apologized and i understand not sure what else i can do or say.

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Acquaint yourself with the site rules and guidelines, be polite, courteous and understand when people have valid concerns about you. I hope that helps you understand what you can do moving forward from this. Also be grateful that you apparently can still use this site if you can find people willing to trade with you after all this.

posted April 21, 2014 04:03 PM            

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Originally posted by paragondave:
Acquaint yourself with the site rules and guidelines, be polite, courteous and understand when people have valid concerns about you. I hope that helps you understand what you can do moving forward from this. Also be grateful that you apparently can still use this site if you can find people willing to trade with you after all this.

Remember, everyone else has the same concerns that you have. When your behavior exacerbates those concerns, you should expect folks to be wary of you. You also have the ability and time to re-create your reputation, if you care enough too, and become a respected member of the MOTL community, again, if you want that.

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Anddddddddddddddddddd he is gone!

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posted April 21, 2014 04:21 PM            

He is still emailing me, insisting he is innocent, and that he'll prove me wrong. I hope he does go through with the trades he has in progress. I hope he sends either his part of the trade, or the cards back to their owners. I hope I am proved wrong on those trades.

However, there is no doubt in my mind, due to an investigation another member and myself did, that he is a ripper.

I'm sorry MOTL, Mom failed on this one.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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posted April 21, 2014 05:04 PM         

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Originally posted by spaceghost44:
Wow, I was literally moments away from sending this guy $500 worth of cards >_<

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posted April 21, 2014 05:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Sovarius:
Honestly, you shouldn't be dealing with $500 of cards at once.

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You're probably right. I usually don't make deals this large and I'm very grateful that I didn't have to learn this lesson the hard way. Greed can definitely get the better of your common sense sometimes though... O_O

posted April 21, 2014 08:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Jazaray:

I'm sorry MOTL, Mom failed on this one.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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posted April 22, 2014 04:47 AM            

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Originally posted by paragondave:
I don't think anyone thinks you failed on this one. Thank you for doing the hard work and following thru. We all appreciate it and you.

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posted April 22, 2014 11:12 AM         

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Originally posted by spaceghost44:
It would be nice if there was a feature on this site where an inactive account (like >5 years of inactivity) that suddenly starts posting again was tagged as "This person must send first in all trades." At least until they start building new refs. Or perhaps archive old refs but don't actually include them in their official ref count. This might be asking for too much but stealing old accounts seems to be a pretty common way these scumbags are operating here.

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Or you could check their profile and their confirmed references. I assume you can read. It would be pretty weird to be on an online forum and not be able to read.

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posted April 22, 2014 11:14 AM            

I think that it is important to send a private warning to someone you see being asked for a trade by or asking for a trade from someone who raises a red flag or flags. I was compelled to do that this time, and I received many thanks from other traders. I know that it is often easy to ignore and say it is none of my business. However, doing that may lead to a victim leaving the MOTL community. Send a message to the moderators, too, which many did; but also contact those you see trading/negotiating with a suspicious person. Investigation takes time, and during that time it would be terrible to let someone walk into a trap.

posted April 22, 2014 12:20 PM            

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Originally posted by spaceghost44:
It would be nice if there was a feature on this site where an inactive account (like >5 years of inactivity) that suddenly starts posting again was tagged as "This person must send first in all trades." At least until they start building new refs. Or perhaps archive old refs but don't actually include them in their official ref count. This might be asking for too much but stealing old accounts seems to be a pretty common way these scumbags are operating here.

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I would vote for accounts that are inactive for 1-2+ years should automatically get locked. Either permanently or else could only be reactivated through some process involving moderators.

posted April 22, 2014 02:30 PM            

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Originally posted by superpup:
I would vote for accounts that are inactive for 1-2+ years should automatically get locked. Either permanently or else could only be reactivated through some process involving moderators.

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I'm actually surprised my account wasn't used at some point. My hardcore old 4digit numeral password from 2000 could have been hacked in 2 seconds by the weakest of scripts... the code here is so ancient imho I think it would be entirely too huge of an undertaking to make this place run securely. It would be more a scrap of everything we know that would have to be rewritten and started from scratch. Custom coding something that is outdated by a decade is rather hard to demand in the end usually not worth it.

All that being said, I'm very glad I was able to come back with my old name. A mass chpass script to change passes to something random and secure might not be really hard, but who has the time or money to invest? With updated code, proper servers, etc, the place could be a goldmine, but then would lose all of its current flavor. Double edged sword...

posted April 22, 2014 02:42 PM            

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Originally posted by superpup:
I would vote for accounts that are inactive for 1-2+ years should automatically get locked. Either permanently or else could only be reactivated through some process involving moderators.

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posted April 22, 2014 03:52 PM            

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Originally posted by spaceghost44:
It would be nice if there was a feature on this site where an inactive account (like >5 years of inactivity) that suddenly starts posting again was tagged as "This person must send first in all trades."

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Hiding e-mail addresses of inactive members would prevent the most common type of account theft. The period of inactivity should be less than a year, because that's how long it takes for a Hotmail account to expire.

posted April 22, 2014 04:08 PM            

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Originally posted by elowther91:
Hi everyone, sorry for all the newb questions but I just realized that this guy Macnamara was banned. I just sent him about $200 dollars worth of cards less then a 3 days ago. Do I have any course of actions or is their nothing I can do. Thanks for any help.

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Sorry to find out that cards were sent to MacNamara. I think that there is no easy way of retrieving your package. Before you give up, here are a couple of ideas.

1) If there is someone residing in Windsor who can file a police report for you in person, perhaps this would lead police to check on the address you sent the package to.

2) Call Canada Post (I assume that you sent via USPS which means CP will take over after it crosses the border) to inquire about the possibility of having the mail delivery person retrieve the package because you sent to someone committing mail fraud.

I hope that MacNamara will return everyone's packages to their respective owners.

posted April 22, 2014 04:12 PM            

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Originally posted by nylarotep:
I was able to get this guy (MacNamara) to send first to me since I have a crap ton of refs, I'll let you guys know if I actually get my cards.

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I would like for you to video tape the opening of his package, when you get it if you don't mind. An uninterrupted video please.

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Originally posted by elowther91:
Hi everyone, sorry for all the newb questions but I just realized that this guy Macnamara was banned. I just sent him about $200 dollars worth of cards less then a 3 days ago. Do I have any course of actions or is their nothing I can do. Thanks for any help.

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I am in contact with MacNamara and he is still insisting that he's innocent and will be sending the cards back to their original owners. He says he will keep me updated on who sent him what and when he sent them back. I, in turn, will keep you updated.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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There was a nice lassie named Jaz
Many wished to have what she has,
A delicate face,
A soft warm embrace,
And a whole lot of bedroom pizzazz.

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posted April 23, 2014 07:48 AM            

On another note, I called USPS and they said their was nothing they could do since it was international mail. I think I will take the advice about calling the Canadian Post and informing them of the mail fraud and see if they can do anything.

posted April 23, 2014 05:10 PM         

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Originally posted by sears510:
Guys he emailed me back stating that he would complete trade, I advise everybody to do same

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I advise everyone that hasnt sent, NOT TO. he's already banned, there is NO way to get your cards back once you send, and no guarantee he will fulfill his end. KEEP YOUR STUFF.

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